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[Skii]

If Toei actually go through with Gohan training story, then he will definitely be the "strongest" again. Like you said, its the nature of the character. However, when it really counts, they're going to have him get over confident and screw up against the big bad so Goku can swoop in and save the day. Again. Cause god forbid someone besides Goku matter.

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Yes, I'm still bitter about the Buu saga and Revival of F (Vegeta)

I know people will troll but I wouldn't mind that to be honest. As long as he's actually somewhat relevant to the overall story and actually wins some fights, I'll be happy.

I liked what they did with the Tapion movie. Gohan was more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, but Goku still beat Hildegarn because he fought more cleverly and came up with the right technique on the spot. Meanwhile the reason Vegeta lost was not because he was weak but because he got screwed spending his energy protecting the Earthlings, something Goku didn't have to do.

Shame that technique isn't really a factor anymore. It would add so much depth to the characters. It's annoying that even Vegeta doesn't use his big bang attack anymore. That was one of my favourites, especially when he used it in the Cell saga.

Be a dick to your kid pretty much his whole life, only showing some form of love when about to commit suicide (after fucking up)? Don't know where this 'Vegeta is a good husband/father' thing comes from. He's mediocre at best. Gohan and Krillin are probably the best.

Expecting Goku and Vegeta to be good parents is futile. It is completely against their nature. It's unfair to hold full saiyans to the same expectations as humans in terms of emotion and compassion for others. They will never truly care for others and will do anything to satisfy their quench for battle. Goku and Vegeta have shown this trait time and time again. You can only expect proper emotional development from Gohan, Trunks and Goten.

 

[73V3N]

I don't remember this scene....

Wish there was more Gohan + Goten interactions. The episodes with them and Videl training for the tournament are fantastic.

As stupid as this sounds, the whole period between the Cell Games and the World Tournament is probably my favorite part of DBZ.

That's on the credits of one of the movies

 

[BBQMan]

In Super, SSB has been stated to be stronger than SSG. Standard SSJ, after Goku absorbed the SSJ God power, was already stated to be on par with SSJ God, and SSJGSS is somewhere above that.

Where is all of this stated though? I've read he absorbed the God Ki. But it doesnt seem his normal state is SSG level when fighting Frieza.

 

[JadedWriter]

Be a dick to your kid pretty much his whole life, only showing some form of love when about to commit suicide (after fucking up)? Don't know where this 'Vegeta is a good husband/father' thing comes from. He's mediocre at best. Gohan and Krillin are probably the best.

Gohan is a better dad cause he was raised by Piccolo for all those years.

 

[sibarraz]

Why Berus picked Piccolo and not Gohan?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Goku is still the only thing resembling a good father in this series.

 

[BBQMan]

Why Berus picked Piccolo and not Gohan?

Beerus only picked Nipples dude the rest was on Vegeta and Goku.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I hope goten, trunks and videl get killed in the next 10 episodes

I hope your pet goldfish dies

 

[Anth0ny]

I hope goten, trunks and videl get killed in the next 10 episodes

Honestly, it would be nice if Trunks and Goten were able to train a bit with Piccolo and Gohan. Give them a bit of a powerup. Maybe teach them how to stay as a super saiyan 3 for the entirety of their fusion?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

I don't remember this scene....

Wish there was more Gohan + Goten interactions. The episodes with them and Videl training for the tournament are fantastic.

As stupid as this sounds, the whole period between the Cell Games and the World Tournament is probably my favorite part of DBZ.

It's from the end credits of Bio-Broly.

 

[BigBadGiantHand]

I hope your pet goldfish dies

Lines have been crossed.

 

[Slayer-33]

chichi about to cast final flash

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I hope goten, trunks and videl get killed in the next 10 episodes

All three already got killed 2 episodes ago lol.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Lines have been crossed.

Its ok he doesn't really have one...i hope

 

[J-Rod]

It is relative, and relative to goku, vegeta is a better father and husband. Goku couldn't muster a single fuck about gohan when he was born until they named him after his grandfather, and even then, the interest wore off in a moment. Vegeta at least shows some interest in the well-being bulma in the last episode and apparently has some involvement in his family's life. Goku won't even pick a fucking turnip and is content with them all starving while happily becoming beerus' maid just for another cycle of god grade bovine testosterone.

 

[Cromat]

Still will forever be some of the greatest development for him till this day.
"I haven't held you once when you were a baby, come here son."

That was the only moment in the show with actual emotional impact, truly stand out.

 

[Loris146]

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Best outfit ever.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

It is relative, and relative to goku, vegeta is a better father and husband. Goku couldn't muster a single fuck about gohan when he was born until they named him after his grandfather, and even then, the interest wore off in a moment. Vegeta at least shows some interest in the well-being bulma in the last episode and apparently has some involvement in his family's life. Goku won't even pick a fucking turnip and is content with them all starving while happily becoming beerus' maid just for another cycle of god grade bovine testosterone.

What is this from?

 

[J-Rod]

I recall it from the anime, so it may be filler.

Edit, this is probably it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3P6XgFIM8

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

That was the only moment in the show with actual emotional impact, truly stand out.

Which reminds me did trunks even freak out when he woke up? I cant remember?

 

[Lord Virgin]

It is relative, and relative to goku, vegeta is a better father and husband. Goku couldn't muster a single fuck about gohan when he was born until they named him after his grandfather, and even then, the interest wore off in a moment. Vegeta at least shows some interest in the well-being bulma in the last episode and apparently has some involvement in his family's life. Goku won't even pick a fucking turnip and is content with them all starving while happily becoming beerus' maid just for another cycle of god grade bovine testosterone.

Do you really want someone to list all the good husband/father Goku moments versus the Vegeta ones? I think you have to rewatch DBZ again. They both aren't great, but Goku is way better.

 

[sibarraz]

Beerus only picked Nipples dude the rest was on Vegeta and Goku.

So I will make the question again, why Gohan?

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Do you really want someone to list all the good husband/father Goku moments versus the Vegeta ones? I think you have to rewatch DBZ again. They both aren't great, but Goku is way better.

Let the list wars begin..
No filler
Anything from super counts
....GO!

 

[Kagari]

So I will make the question again, why Gohan?

In the manga

Spoiler

Goku starts recommending Piccolo and Buu and Vegeta replies with "What about Gohan? To be honest he has the greatest dormant potential of all of us." Goku responds saying all Gohan cares about these days is books, so why bring him, he even lost his gi etc.

It's likely though that Goku doesn't know about Piccolo and Gohan's training arrangement.

 

[Russ T]

Be a dick to your kid pretty much his whole life, only showing some form of love when about to commit suicide (after fucking up)? Don't know where this 'Vegeta is a good husband/father' thing comes from. He's mediocre at best. Gohan and Krillin are probably the best.

yo man it was a joke

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Let the list wars begin..
No filler
Anything from super counts
....GO!

Goku: stays with his family if he can, has no problem saying he cares about his family, constantly encourages and compliments his kids, he was with Gohan and Chichi for four years until he died, trained with Gohan for three years for the androids, then another year in the hyperbolic time chamber, and then at the end of Z he stayed with his family for ten years. Then at the end, when everyone has grown up to take care of themselves and aren't interested in fighting, he goes to train uub so he can have someone else to spar with, but he did say he'll come back every once in a while.

Vegeta: didn't acknowledge trunks, future and present version, until future trunks left, is still standoffish about showing affection, sold his soul when he thought they were making him soft. But hey he's getting better at least.

 

[Vex_]

Yea, vegeta has had the most growth throughout the entire series Z and S (so far but it has only just started).

In z we see him go from straight up ruthless villian (killing a comrade because he was weak), to anti hero, to family man, to full on sacrificing himself against buu.

Now in super, he plays the Yang to Goku's Yin. Vegeta speaks less (change), but acts more. He is the guy that's gonna finish the job(change). He doesnt give you second chances(change). This didnt happen in Z. He seems to be the only one who learns from his mistakes.

Gohan: same old kid who doesnt weant to fight = 4 eyed LOSER
Goten: Complete crybaby
The only one who changed any was Goku. He got even more stupid somehow. He actually needs to be trained how to hold his pee pee again. What a tool.

TLDR; the vegeta family is superior to the Goku family. THE END.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I recall it from the anime, so it may be filler.

Edit, this is probably it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YF3P6XgFIM8

 

[Kagari]

Hating on glasss now? Have we fallen this far?

 

[CrazyDude]

Hating on glasss now? Have we fallen this far?

It's the inferiority complex speaking.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Goku: stays with his family if he can, has no problem saying he cares about his family, constantly encourages and compliments his kids, he was with Gohan and Chichi for four years until he died, trained with Gohan for three years for the androids, then another year in the hyperbolic time chamber, and then at the end of Z he stayed with his family for ten years. Then at the end, when everyone has grown up to take care of themselves and aren't interested in fighting, he goes to train uub so he can have someone else to spar with, but he did say he'll come back every once in a while.

Vegeta: didn't acknowledge trunks, future and present version, until future trunks left, is still standoffish about showing affection, sold his soul when he thought they were making him soft. But hey he's getting better at least.

I just wanna say thats a lie lol no the heck he doesn't he bounces whenever he gets the chance everything else is pretty solid.

Also id argue at the very least bulma and vegeta seem to have a better understanding of each other than goku and chichi. To this day she still doesn't understand what he loves to do and thats fight. Example: bulma knew where vegeta was, she knew vegeta was training meanwhile what does goku have to do? Run and lie just to be able to train as well.

Vegeta also seems to accept the fact he was a terrible father by the buu saga. Super he seems to at least be trying with that.

 

[KimiNewt]

What episode does the Gohan stuff happen (talking with Piccolo)?

Honestly I think I might start watching the show, but only the episodes that don't involve Goku.

 

[Loris146]

What episode does the Gohan stuff happen (talking with Piccolo)?

Honestly I think I might start watching the show, but only the episodes that don't involve Goku.

Good luck with that lol

 

[Lord Virgin]

Let the list wars begin..
No filler
Anything from super counts
....GO!

http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v29/c153/14.html

Great father and husband!

Goku ain't perfect, but def. better than Vegeta.

 

[Russ T]

Yo I really hated the firey SSG aura in Super. (I recall being okay with the aura in BoG, but I forget exactly what it looked like.)

But the SSB aura is fuckin' rad as heck.

Vegeta such a badass.

 

[Kagari]

What episode does the Gohan stuff happen (talking with Piccolo)?

Honestly I think I might start watching the show, but only the episodes that don't involve Goku.

Episode 27.

 

[Ultra Numb]

Pretty sure Goku has screen-time in every episode thus far.

 

[Russ T]

Pretty sure Goku has screen-time in every episode thus far.

Haha yeah was gonna say.

 

[Ashodin]

Episode 27.

Literally second to last episode aired haha. Took forever to get here.

 

[Blader]

My favorite Vegeta moment of the movies/Super is when Goku is carelessly deflecting blasts from Frieza all over the place, and Vegeta shoots them down to prevent collateral while tsking Goku for being so reckless. It's a small moment (and looks like absolute ass in Super :lol) but it's a nice character contrast and another sign of his growth.

 

[Zalman]

Gohan probably needs a couple of months of training before he reaches his Buu saga strength again. I don't think they made it clear how long after the previous arc the tournament takes place, but it seems like it's immediately after.

Spoiler

So even if Goku does know about his training, I doubt he would be ready to fight.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Gohan probably needs a couple of months of training before he reaches his Buu saga strength again. I don't think they made it clear how long after the previous arc the tournament takes place, but it seems like it's immediately after.

Spoiler

So even if Goku does know about his training, I doubt he would be ready to fight.

You underestimate their ability to powerup gohan quickly

 

[Kagari]

Gohan probably needs a couple of months of training before he reaches his Buu saga strength again. I don't think they made it clear how long after the previous arc the tournament takes place, but it seems like it's immediately after.

Spoiler

So even if Goku does know about his training, I doubt he would be ready to fight.

Room of Space and Time.

Literally second to last episode aired haha. Took forever to get here.

Yep, but the moment was super hype!

 

[Zalman]

Room of Space and Time.

Spoiler

Goku and Vegeta are going to train there for the tournament, but I guess it's possible for Gohan to sneak in while everyone else is gone. If that's the case, Piccolo probably knows.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Spoiler

Goku and Vegeta are going to train there for the tournament, but I guess it's possible for Gohan to sneak in while everyone else is gone. If that's the case, Piccolo probably knows.

Spoiler

They can just have goku and vegeta train in whis space

 

[BranVan3000]

We all know Goku is a shitty parent but what about Chi Chi with Goten? I can't even rember the two exchanging dialogue, did she use up all her parenting on Gohan? Poor Goten it's no wonder he grows up to look like Yamcha

 

[Real Hero]

We all know Goku is a shitty parent but what about Chi Chi with Goten? I can't even rember the two exchanging dialogue, did she use up all her parenting on Gohan? Poor Goten it's no wonder he grows up to look like Yamcha

Didn't she train Goten? Might have been anime only

 

[DiipuSurotu]

We all know Goku is a shitty parent but what about Chi Chi with Goten? I can't even rember the two exchanging dialogue, did she use up all her parenting on Gohan? Poor Goten it's no wonder he grows up to look like Yamcha

She actually trained him personally, and doesn't even push for him to be a scholar. I never understood why.

 

[BranVan3000]

Gohan probably needs a couple of months of training before he reaches his Buu saga strength again. I don't think they made it clear how long after the previous arc the tournament takes place, but it seems like it's immediately after.

Spoiler

So even if Goku does know about his training, I doubt he would be ready to fight.

They made some Dodoria level chump stronger than Cell in 4 months, I don't think they will struggle powering Gohan

 

[Real Hero]

She actually trained him personally, and doesn't even push for him to be a scholar. I never understood why.

He didn't want to be one I assume, Gohan actually wanted to be a scholar.