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[Blackleg-sanji1]

Broly because got defeated by a half ass god ritual he was definitely super perfect cell level.

Now the second movie...that was the most inconsistent power level shit I've ever seen lol

 

[Aaronrules380]

Vegeta doesn't seem like the guy who would want to help train someone though.

Semi Perfect Cell. Vegeta likes challenges and proving his dominance. If he thinks Cabba has potential, but just can't provide him a good fight right now I could see him doing it. Or maybe he thinks he might be able to get a decent sparring partner who isn't Goku if Cabba gets stronger

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

broly is shit guys

the only good movie villains are janemba, hitler and cooler

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

broly is shit guys

the only good movie villains are janemba, hitler and cooler

Cooler is shit,hitler is shit. Janemba is cool tho

 

[Host Samurai]

Broly can take Fat Buu. Not Kid or Super, but most certainly Fat. If Broly self destructed like Vegeta he would not doubt have killed him. Also i don't think Broly runs out of Ki

 

[Skii]

Broly can take Fat Buu. Not Kid or Super, but most certainly Fat. If Broly self destructed like Vegeta he would not doubt have killed him. Also i don't think Broly runs out of Ki

You do understand that Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu? Broly is so much weaker than you guys are giving him credit for. It took 3 SSJ1 and he was finished. Goku at SSJ3 was as strong as Fat Buu.

 

[Bacon_Boss]

I'm sad Android 18 isn't more of a thing. She could totally keep up.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

You do understand that Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu? Broly is so much weaker than you guys are giving him credit for. It took 3 SSJ1 and he was finished. Goku at SSJ3 was as strong as Fat Buu.

It took 4 ssj1 and piccolo, which still wasn't enough so they than proceed to give all there power to goku..

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

You do understand that Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu? Broly is so much weaker than you guys are giving him credit for. It took 3 SSJ1 and he was finished. Goku at SSJ3 was as strong as Fat Buu.

Goku was stronger than Buu by far at SSJ3. He didn't kill him because he wanted Goten and Trunks to do it, IIRC.

 

[Skii]

I'm sad Android 18 isn't more of a thing. She could totally keep up.

You have to face the fact that only 3 characters from the z-warriors will actually remain relevant in Super. The rest will be left behind. It's a massive shame but I think that's what's going to happen.

It took 4 ssj1 and piccolo, which still wasn't enough so they than proceed to give all there power to goku..

Talking about the second movie where it's after the Cell saga so we can make a better comparison.

And even in the first movie, they gave all their powers to Goku and he finished him with one punch lmao. If that was good enough for Broly, why didn't they do it against Cell? Face it man, Broly is not even as strong as Cell. The second movie is basically conclusive proof of that.

Goku was stronger than Buu by far at SSJ3. He didn't kill him because he wanted Goten and Trunks to do it, IIRC.

I wouldn't say that at all. Goku said he could've destroyed him but I doubt even he knew how difficult it was to get rid of Buu. Plus, Goku couldn't stay at SSJ3 for long. He struggled to maintain that form.

 

[Chinner]

anyone collect sh figuarts stuff?

 

[NeonZ]

You do understand that Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu? Broly is so much weaker than you guys are giving him credit for. It took 3 SSJ1 and he was finished. Goku at SSJ3 was as strong as Fat Buu.

Fat Buu wasn't really stronger than Kid Buu. He could power up with anger, but if his power rose too much then it created that gray Buu that steals most of his power anyway.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

You have to face the fact that only 3 characters from the z-warriors will actually remain relevant in Super. The rest will be left behind. It's a massive shame but I think that's what's going to happen.



Talking about the second movie where it's after the Cell saga so we can make a better comparison.

And even in the first movie, they gave all their powers to Goku and he finished him with one punch lmao. If that was good enough for Broly, why didn't they do it against Cell? Face it man, Broly is not even as strong as Cell. The second movie is basically conclusive proof of that.



I wouldn't say that at all. Goku said he could've destroyed him but I doubt even he knew how difficult it was to get rid of Buu. Plus, Goku couldn't stay at SSJ3 for long. He struggled to maintain that form.

It took all of them to give him their power to do that one punch. As far as the second movie while still inconsistent like everything dragon ball, it still took gohan amd goten with a dead spirit goku to take him out. Are you saying they would need all that for cell?

 

[Bacon_Boss]

Second movie made absolutely no sense. It was basically an animation presentation with familiar faces. The 3 people the same strength as some of the 5 who fought him before except one extra one rises from the grave to help finish him off. You could argue he was the same strength maybe? Spectral Goku's a question mark though.

 

[brinstar]

I doubt they wrote those movies from the perspective of trying to have them make sense with the main series' strength levels anyway. Usually they just go with whatever works for dramatic effect.

Like how Gohan and Gotenks get their asses kicked during the Hirudegarn movie but SS3 Goku saves the day.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I doubt they wrote those movies from the perspective of trying to have them make sense with the main series' strength levels anyway. Usually they just go with whatever works for dramatic effect.

Like how Gohan and Gotenks get their asses kicked during the Hirudegarn movie but SS3 Goku saves the day.

Lol i forgot about that

 

[Skii]

Fat Buu wasn't really stronger than Kid Buu. He could power up with anger, but if his power rose too much then it created that gray Buu that steals most of his power anyway.

I don't remember him powering up meant that his evil side would leave him. I just thought it was down to the fact that he had become good at that point and his anger manifested itself as evil buu rather than powering him up like it normally would.

I really do think Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is basically the most pure form but also the weakest (aside from good buu & evil buu).

It took all of them to give him their power to do that one punch. As far as the second movie while still inconsistent like everything dragon ball, it still took gohan amd goten with a dead spirit goku to take him out. Are you saying they would need all that for cell?

It's difficult to debate this because the movies are so poorly done. But I just think that Toriyama would've never created someone like Broly to be as strong as his main villain in Cell. And the fact that they use a gimmicky way to win the battle which could've been used for Cell if Cell was weaker than Broly convinces me that Cell is stronger.

I'm happy to concede Cell being stronger if we all agree that Gohan SSJ2 would've destroyed him either way.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

^^so basically toriyama didn't make it theres no debate canon is stronger? Lol that's basically what i got from that. Is janemba weaker than cell?

 

[Skii]

^^so basically toriyama didn't make it theres no debate canon is stronger? Lol that's basically what i got from that. Is janemba weaker than cell?

Well the equivalent argument would be if Janemba is stronger than Gohan absorbed Buu (which was the strongest main story villain at time) and that answer is clearly no considering Vegito is significantly stronger than Gogeta.

 

[donkey show]

Broly is dumb, looks dumb, and I was thinking of actual green green not yellow green.

 

[TheRealTalker]

man the whole heat thing for Vegeta kinda shows how unbalanced the power scaling of Dragonball is

you can be uber OP but there are still ways to take you down

 

[DragonSworne]

Dammit, Funimation keeps teasing that they're either continuing Kai, or they have Super.

Quit fucking teasing us, and just tell us!

The flying animation during the Saiyan saga did it right. The animation looks so good. Now they look like they are just in suspended animation floating in the air. :/

 

[Skii]

bogey broly...ewwww.

 

[N.Domixis]

since they are losing it makes me wonder if any of the u6 fighters will become regulars on the show.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Dat Hit hype. I like that they were both not showing their full power thinking the same thing about leaving it for Hit.

Lol, I thought Whis was going to pull a "you should go apologize" or something when it showed a crying Magetta, but they can't attack back once you've insulted them? That's...An interesting evolutionary flaw, hah.

Kinda wish it showed Vegeta apologizing anyways, poor weird metal thing.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Power levels suck

 

[donkey show]

Love the dynamic between Vados and Champa. Her quips are the best.

bogey broly...ewwww.

Best Broly

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

There's no way Broly's near Fat Buu's level when his only accomplishment is beating a weaker version of the Gohan that Cell fought. At best Broly in the second movie is at Perfect Cell's level and would get trashed by SPC.

If you replaced Broly with a Cell Junior in his second movie the results would of been the same. Gohan and the kids would of been trashed.

 

[ArchedThunder]

since they are losing it makes me wonder if any of the u6 fighters will become regulars on the show.

Cabba will totally join the cast.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

There's no way Broly's near Fat Buu's level when his only accomplishment is beating a weaker version of the Gohan that Cell fought. At best Broly in the second movie is at Perfect Cell's level and would get trashed by SPC.

If you replaced Broly with a Cell Junior in his second movie the results would of been the same. Gohan and the kids would of been trashed.

So SpC would trash goten,gohan and trunks? Come on people! Step out of the hate machine and be objective

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

since they are losing it makes me wonder if any of the u6 fighters will become regulars on the show.

I'd like to see Frost become less of a Freeza clone and become similar to Vegeta in the Namek saga.

I think thats a long shot at this point though.

So SpC would trash goten,gohan and trunks? Come on people! Step out of the hate machine and be objective

Gohan got beat by Dabura who wasn't even trying. Vegeta and Trunks didn't even try to go against him during the Cell games.

There's no way Kid Trunks and Goten are going to give Perfect Cell any trouble let alone SPC.

 

[Kagari]

Cabba will totally join the cast.

I actually hope he doesn't since we have Goten and Trunks just sitting there.

 

[Skii]

So SpC would trash goten,gohan and trunks? Come on people! Step out of the hate machine and be objective

You're the one that's not being objective here. Super Perfect Cell took a fucking blast from ascended SSJ Vegeta in the final kamehameha struggle and it distracted him. That's it.

Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks to this day in Super probably. Piccolo's blasts couldn't even touch Cell. It literally wasn't affecting him. In what world does SSJ1 Goten, Trunks and adult Gohan (who is significantly weaker) beat Super Perfect Cell?

Just admit it man, Broly is not as strong as you think he is.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I actually hope he doesn't since we have Goten and Trunks just sitting there.

I love u kagari sniff sniff, you know whats up

 

[Savitar]

anyone collect sh figuarts stuff?

I get the ones I like, I got a few, Perfect Cell, SS Goku and his new blue haired form, SS Gohan(teen), Frizea and his new Golden form, Piccolo, 18, Krillian, Vegeta with scouter from when he first showed up, Vegitto. They're good stuff, very poseable and fit in well with each other. Plus they tend to have lots of nice changeable hands/faces. Beerus is coming out and saw Whis showed up on sites the other week.


On the Broly topic, first movie is good, it's actually got a pretty damn good plot and story going on. The animation is good stuff and it's fun to watch. The ending with how they beat Broly as one poster said is dumb but overall it's a pretty solid movie. Broly himself is a crazy ass SS and that's fun to see, mainly because he does more than scream Goku's name, he talks normal albeit in a way that shows he's totally crazy.

It's in the sequels he becomes a lot more boring and annoying simply screaming Goku's name and being all about that crying of Goku when he was young. And yeah his power level there makes no sense, the third movie is pure garbage. The only bright spot is 18 shows up and plays a role, but that's about it.

The problem is everyone pretty much focus on the last two and so do the games etc for the most part. It's a pity, show him to be the sadistic psycho from the first one and he's far more interesting.

 

[Welfare]

I actually hope he doesn't since we have Goten and Trunks just sitting there.

I think it is clear that Goten and Trunks will be the "comedy" characters in Super. They don't want to fight.

 

[Host Samurai]

Daizenshuu confirmed that Gohan was SSJ 2 in movie 10 vs Broly. That automatically puts Broly ahead of SPC, Dabura and even Majin Vegeta. I don't see how Fat Buu can fare vs Brolys relentless attacks. Candy beam? Lol. Broly via destruction.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

You're the one that's not being objective here. Super Perfect Cell took a fucking blast from ascended SSJ Vegeta in the final kamehameha struggle and it distracted him. That's it.

Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks to this day in Super probably. Piccolo's blasts couldn't even touch Cell. It literally wasn't affecting him. In what world does SSJ1 Goten, Trunks and adult Gohan (who is significantly weaker) beat Super Perfect Cell?

Just admit it man, Broly is not as strong as you think he is.

Nobody blast affected broly at all in the first movie none of them. Not an up close Kamehameha. Piccolo im sorry was not stronger than goten and trunks(before super). Im what world does goten,trunks and gohan not beat super perfect cell. You are hyping up his power dramatically. Broly had to be taken out the same way cell was and it took even more im the first movie

 

[ArchedThunder]

I actually hope he doesn't since we have Goten and Trunks just sitting there.

Goten and Trunks were a mistake, they're nothing but trash.

Cabba 2016

 

[Slayer-33]

Vegeta is the GOATEST of the GOAT.

 

[Savitar]

Vegeta is the GOATEST of the GOAT.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Goten and Trunks were a mistake, they're nothing but trash.

Cabba 2016

Damn arched i thought we were friends
*crosses arched name out

 

[Skii]

Vegeta going out of his way to find a new son because his current one sucks that much. RIP Trunks.

And it's not much better for Goten considering he exists to be in Trunks' shadow :/

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

Daizenshuu confirmed that Gohan was SSJ 2 in movie 10 vs Broly. That automatically puts Broly ahead of SPC, Dabura and even Majin Vegeta. I don't see how Fat Buu can fare vs Brolys relentless attacks. Candy beam? Lol. Broly via destruction.

Not quite the Daizenshuu says Gohan was SSJ2 when he fought Dabura who was himself equal to at least Perfect Cell. He was losing pretty badly which pissed Vegeta off.

Not to mention later Dabura thought Gohan was trash.

I also don't ever recall the Daizenshuu calling Gohan a SSJ2 in movie 10, only stating that Broly had powered up from the first movie.

 

[ArchedThunder]

If Cabba joins the main cast I wonder how long it will be until Heroes gives him SSJ2, 3 and 4. I give it until May 2017 at the latest for SSJ3.
4 would be hilarious since Universe 6 Saiyans don't have tails, but I doubt the Heroes designers care.

 

[Kuroyume]

Another awesome episode. This universe 7 vs 6 arc has been so great. Loved seeing Vegeta's old move returns. The magetta fight was a lot of fun. Especially loved Beerus and Champas' face/reactions throughout the episode.

Animaton was really well done too.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

If Cabba joins the main cast I wonder how long it will be until Heroes gives him SSJ2, 3 and 4. I give it until May 2017 at the latest for SSJ3.
4 would be hilarious since Universe 6 Saiyans don't have tails, but I doubt the Heroes designers care.

Cabba and vegeta fusion is inevitable thx to heroes

 

[NeonZ]

I don't remember him powering up meant that his evil side would leave him. I just thought it was down to the fact that he had become good at that point and his anger manifested itself as evil buu rather than powering him up like it normally would.

I really do think Fat Buu was stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is basically the most pure form but also the weakest (aside from good buu & evil buu).

The actual explanation, given by the narrator, is that it was a manifestation of his anger, so it likely would appear at any time it got angry enough. It's even described as a Buu of "pure wrath".

 

[ArchedThunder]

Cabba and vegeta fusion is inevitable thx to heroes

Heroes hasn't really delved into what-if fusions, but with the Dragon Ball Fusions game on the horizon I wouldn't be surprised if they started to.

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

Nobody blast affected broly at all in the first movie none of them. Not an up close Kamehameha. Piccolo im sorry was not stronger than goten and trunks(before super). Im what world does goten,trunks and gohan not beat super perfect cell. You are hyping up his power dramatically. Broly had to be taken out the same way cell was and it took even more im the first movie

Well everybody in his first movie was pretty weak, and tanking a Kamehameha isn't that impressive when Cell swatted one away during his warm up with Goku.

Piccolo surpassed SSJ Vegeta when he fused with Kami, which would put him above the kids in the early Buu saga.

Broly isn't that impressive since his movie came out during the tournament arc of the Buu Saga.