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[Elios83]

So the situation was worse than most people imagined, the development hell required to scrap the whole idea they had...
The environments at least look good...but that main character design...an emo boy from the 90s with dark circles that hasn't slept for days?
Maybe there is a plot reason for that because it doesn't look good.

 

[Puscifer]

yum yum we love slop

ngl who would't want to fuck this lizard boy
furries be eating well

Least insane take lmao

 

[Dirk Benedict]

They need better dungeon design and smarter bosses that give better rewards.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Maybe there is a plot reason for that because it doesn't look good.

Plot reason seems pretty obvious. They are actually a lizard.

 

[TaciturnWolf]

Yea the eyes would Change everything. Yea I think he got loser liberal im a victim kinda eyes, looks like a lazy loser... The fix of eyes makes him look masculine and ready for battle.

The protagonist isn't getting enough sleep because of his visions so that's intentional design. "Fixing" it is missing the point entirely and is DLSS 5 all over again.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Least insane take lmao

Puscifer the cloaca shocka

 

[FauxXeno]

Looks great , I don't see the mc complaints people are trying to push . My hairs been shaved on the sides since I was 14 or 30 years (sometimes long and tied back and times on the shorter side loose and wacky) so I can relate lol . DQ11 was amazing but the protagonist had no personality and was hella generic .

Also people act like games get perfectly envisioned and designed on a first try which is almost hardly ever the case , things are created by trial and error and sometimes a full reset is needed if things are obviously not working out . People just love to find anything to complain about .... unless it's Sony .... then it's justified lol

 

[Gambit2483]

Least insane take lmao

When the Furry

community eating good off Dragon Quest...

 

[Werewolf Jones]

XII started when Sugiyama and Toriyama were alive. What a waste.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

XII started when Sugiyama and Toriyama were alive. What a waste.

Maybe some day they will repurpose cancelled DQ XII into a high budget spin-off DQ game. Maybe it will be more acceptable as a spin-off instead of a mainline title.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

XII started when Sugiyama and Toriyama were alive. What a waste.

It will be one of the most sought-after cancelled games of all time. People are going to try all sorts of things to find out what happened to the last Toriyama project.

 

[DoktorCoktor]

Even though the unveiling was pretty lackluster, I'm glad they finally showed something. As for the designs, the MC's hairstyle could definitely use some adjustments, the lizard-man character(or form?) is an abominable stain on art itself and what even is the red-head wearing? That aside, the worst offense is the fact that they showed absolutely no real gameplay after such a long wait. So this signals the game is definitely still a couple of years from completion. Hopefully the developers take some of the justified criticiism to heart and make some tweaks from now to release window.

 

[Minsc]

Looks great , I don't see the mc complaints people are trying to push . My hairs been shaved on the sides since I was 14 or 30 years (sometimes long and tied back and times on the shorter side loose and wacky) so I can relate lol . DQ11 was amazing but the protagonist had no personality and was hella generic .

Also people act like games get perfectly envisioned and designed on a first try which is almost hardly ever the case , things are created by trial and error and sometimes a full reset is needed if things are obviously not working out . People just love to find anything to complain about .... unless it's Sony .... then it's justified lol

So we went from a DQ11 protagonist with no personality and hella generic to an entire DQ12 game that looks like it has no personality and is hella generic.

Compare what they have shown here to the E3 Trailer and this video looks desperate to me.

Is it pretty? Yes, the environments, the rest is pretty disappointing, pans over empty towns and landscapes, void of anything at all, except towards the end with a single scene of a parade/event of sorts.

This video doesn't really ask us to ask questions like a good teaser would. It really just shows the MC running around for a bit, then a few quick action scenes - which look far less interesting and worse than the ones from the trailer 8 years ago for DQ11 linked above, and doesn't give us a single character that looks interesting to me. Sorry I don't like ugly characters, my loss. The entirety of DQ7 reimagined's chibi characters are a fucking eyesore to me, no thanks.

I hope they show something good about the game later on, but right now, it is so painfully obvious a rushed vertical slice with really nothing interesting in it at all.

And you know what else? What the last time I watched a video that asked me to trust them was? This reeks of FFXVI in that manner, the amount of trust they called upon for that game, and for not. What a mess of a game.

 

[Gambit2483]

Maybe some day they will repurpose cancelled DQ XII into a high budget spin-off DQ game. Maybe it will be more acceptable as a spin-off instead of a mainline title.

Yes...some day....

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Yes...some day....

Yeah, it's unlikely to happen which must speak volumes about how troubled that concept of the game was. They spent years working on it and called it quits. Whatever they produced, it must have been rough.

 

[Fake]

I guess SEGA should give the haters the middle finger and leave the Sonic design from the movie intact.

 

[StereoVsn]

I'm losing the plot here…..what's woke about!?

Just ugly character design both for the human and lizard sides. And even the monsters they showed something looked off.

 

[Brigandier]

Meth head Kristen Stewart trying to dress as a teenage boy?

 

[Danjin44]

Just ugly character design both for the human and lizard sides. And even the monsters they showed something looked off.

Again ugly character design is not = "woke".

 

[Alexios]

to the E3 Trailer

Well this is more like the first showing of that game since everything previous was scrapped so more like these:

Don't worry, hype trailers will come for this. Also, damn, the grass and foliage was really quite nice pre-S (but again nothing like in this). Everyone hated the character in XI too lol. For good reason. But the game was still good. Vocal ppl disliking the new guy's eyes or whatever bs doesn't mean shit.

 

[pulicat]

The original idea was scrapped clearly because of FF XVI's tragic sales numbers. Who would've thought the westernization of Japanese games flopped commercially?

 

[Alexios]

The original idea was scrapped clearly because of FF XVI's tragic sales numbers. Who would've thought the westernization of Japanese games flopped commercially?

The original idea for IX was scrapped for the same reason as they time travelled back to fix it, but not far enough to not start it. They also forgot to tell the FFXIV folks to scrap the original and only make the overhauled version of the game that became successful and scrap all the bla Final Fantasies.

 

[FauxXeno]

So we went from a DQ11 protagonist with no personality and hella generic to an entire DQ12 game that looks like it has no personality and is hella generic.

Compare what they have shown here to the E3 Trailer and this video looks desperate to me.

Is it pretty? Yes, the environments, the rest is pretty disappointing, pans over empty towns and landscapes, void of anything at all, except towards the end with a single scene of a parade/event of sorts.

This video doesn't really ask us to ask questions like a good teaser would. It really just shows the MC running around for a bit, then a few quick action scenes - which look far less interesting and worse than the ones from the trailer 8 years ago for DQ11 linked above, and doesn't give us a single character that looks interesting to me. Sorry I don't like ugly characters, my loss. The entirety of DQ7 reimagined's chibi characters are a fucking eyesore to me, no thanks.

I hope they show something good about the game later on, but right now, it is so painfully obvious a rushed vertical slice with really nothing interesting in it at all.

And you know what else? What the last time I watched a video that asked me to trust them was? This reeks of FFXVI in that manner, the amount of trust they called upon for that game, and for not. What a mess of a game.

I've never really looked at DQ art, trailers, previews, ect to be anything worthwhile till I've actually played them . I'm personally not gonna get riled up because I'm not going into it with some sort of grandiose expectations especially over a 1 minute introductory trailer. I got just enough to be like " alright that's cool". I didn't know anything about DQxi till the reviews started rolling and after it released , looking at trailers and reviews didn't really impress me but I gave it a shot and is now one of my favorite games of all time and will always remember fondly so I'll reserve judgement till I play it . Some people acting like we just saw the Concord, AC Shadows , Highguard or Horizon H&G for the first time which is totally not the case lol

FF16 was alright .. not the greatest but I had fun and certainly better the FF13&15 , FF7 rebirth though was one of the greatest experiences I've ever had , I trust SE more then alot of other companies that's for sure , especially since they got rid of almost all of their western studios.

 

[StereoVsn]

Again ugly character design is not = "woke".

It's not, but it is ugly.

 

[p_xavier]

It's not, but it is ugly.

Their in the annoucement is a they/them.

 

[Danjin44]

It's not, but it is ugly.

I'm also not the biggest fan of MC design, especially black spot around his eyes which feels like he hasn't slept for a month.

But I won't judge entire game just based on teaser especially the fact DQ series rarely disappoints.

Also we not gonna see this come out in until 2028 or something.

 

[Alexios]

Weird the "tide you over" project that's likely to come out first while they keep deving this for aeons wasn't even shown at all outside the title (Monsters).

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

He looks like he's suffering from insomnia

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Weird the "tide you over" project that's likely to come out first while they keep deving this for aeons wasn't even shown at all outside the title (Monsters).

I was shocked a remake/remaster of a mainline title wasn't announced as a "tide you over" title. I honestly believe at least one exists. But they didn't announce one so maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Alexios]

I was shocked a remake/remaster of a mainline title wasn't announced as a "tide you over" title. I honestly believe at least one exists. But they didn't announce one so maybe I'm wrong.

Well VII is still too new to undercut it I guess (hence trying to bring it back to public eye with the making of stuff).

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I'm also not the biggest fan of MC design, especially black spot around his eyes which feels like he hasn't slept for a month.

But I won't judge entire game just based on teaser especially the fact DQ series rarely disappoints.

Also we not gonna see this come out in until 2028 or something.

Agreed on that for sure

 

[DreamcastSkies]

Well VII is still too new to undercut it I guess (hence trying to bring it back to public eye with the making of stuff).

That's a really great point! This gives me encouragement that they do most likely have other mainline remaster/remakes in the works.

 

[Odinnii]

So Square asks Toriyama for an edgy MC design for an edgy western-focused DQ12( ARPG?)

New edgy direction doesn't work internally, FFXVI flops and becomes a wakeup call.

DQ12 get's redesigned to be more traditional, but we are stuck with the original edgy character designs because Toriyama isnt around anymore to fix this.

Is this the lore?

 

[StereoVsn]

I'm also not the biggest fan of MC design, especially black spot around his eyes which feels like he hasn't slept for a month.

But I won't judge entire game just based on teaser especially the fact DQ series rarely disappoints.

Also we not gonna see this come out in until 2028 or something.

That's fair. I just really don't like any of the character designs and even monster designs seem off.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

So Square asks Toriyama for an edgy MC design for an edgy western-focused DQ12( ARPG?)

New edgy direction doesn't work internally, FFXVI flops and becomes a wakeup call.

DQ12 get's redesigned to be more traditional, but we are stuck with the original edgy character designs because Toriyama isnt around anymore to fix this.

Is this the lore?

I agree with you that the party members revealed so far have an "edgy" look to them and I wonder if they are from the scrapped version of 12

 

[Minsc]

Well this is more like the first showing of that game since everything previous was scrapped so more like these:

Don't worry, hype trailers will come for this. Also, damn, the grass and foliage was really quite nice pre-S (but again nothing like in this). Everyone hated the character in XI too lol. For good reason. But the game was still good. Vocal ppl disliking the new guy's eyes or whatever bs doesn't mean shit.

Yeah, I think I'm going at it as more of a VS thing, like /this/ is the game that's supposed to top DQ11? Yeah right! Not looking like this and with no story and no NPCs I even remotely think look interesting, compared to DQ11.

It's too much a competition right now, expectations are too high for what little is shown here, and I do need to just step back and trust. Hopefully they will pull off another miracle, and even if it doesn't top DQ11, if it's 75% of the way there that will still be a lot of fun.

It's got a long time to cook still though, as far as games go, I expect 2 mainline Final Fantasy (7 Part 3, and one more) games will release before DQ12.

 

[kat_on_the_roof]

They even uses they/them pronouns apparently.

How do you know?

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

fixed

Thats better

 

[KanKamAndNob]

Even though the unveiling was pretty lackluster, I'm glad they finally showed something. As for the designs, the MC's hairstyle could definitely use some adjustments, the lizard-man character(or form?) is an abominable stain on art itself and what even is the red-head wearing? That aside, the worst offense is the fact that they showed absolutely no real gameplay after such a long wait. So this signals the game is definitely still a couple of years from completion. Hopefully the developers take some of the justified criticiism to heart and make some tweaks from now to release window.

For the love of God, please let us at least change the character's appearances like in DQXI. Honestly just have him look like this badass motherfucker and everything would be forgiven:

And yes, it's a little suspicious they didn't show gameplay which has me worried it'll be some FF7 Remake stuff where it's this half active/turn based combat. That said, I'm just glad we're getting more Dragon Quest that's goofy, whimsical, and silly instead of grimdark like they were initially going for.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

I'm also not the biggest fan of MC design, especially black spot around his eyes which feels like he hasn't slept for a month.

But I won't judge entire game just based on teaser especially the fact DQ series rarely disappoints.

Also we not gonna see this come out in until 2028 or something.

I say 2028 if we're lucky. It might be even longer than that unfortunately if it took them this long for a minute trailer when the intial reveal was 5 years ago.

Especially if they've scrapped a lot of stuff and redid the entire story/themes from edgy to lighthearted. Maybe they even wanted the game to be active/turn based at first to fit the "mature" themes of the game but decided to go back to the roots of DQ with the combat as well and make it turn based only. Who knows?

Still want to see more and hopefully we don't have to wait fucking years for a big update this time lol.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Probably late 2029 or 2030. It's another Versus XIII. They never learn.

 

[Hyet]

I can't, just like you can't prove they aren't.

Assuming having a 3 decades+ work relationship with him is worth nothing and that the still existimg Toriyama studio is in on the conspiracy of wrongly crediting him, yeah theres no reason to think Horii isn't lying lmao

When they used non Toriyama artwork for the I, II and III they didn't attribute it to him for marketing sake.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

For the love of God, please let us at least change the character's appearances like in DQXI. Honestly just have him look like this badass motherfucker and everything would be forgiven:

And yes, it's a little suspicious they didn't show gameplay which has me worried it'll be some FF7 Remake stuff where it's this half active/turn based combat. That said, I'm just glad we're getting more Dragon Quest that's goofy, whimsical, and silly instead of grimdark like they were initially going for.

Yea same I don't need no edgy bullshit in DQ, just love the whimsical nature of it and it's turn based gameplay. It just sucks that my balls will have probably dropped another 3 inches til it's out.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

XII started when Sugiyama and Toriyama were alive. What a waste.

I'm not sure what the angle of your post is, but it's possible that the original DQ12 was going for a more realistic non-Toriyama art style and his sudden passing was one of the reasons why they scrapped it to return to the traditional art style.

In my opinion, it would have been extremely awkward and (not intentionally but perceptually) disrespectful to Toriyama's legacy if they released the first game in the mainline DQ series that scraps his legacy relatively shortly after his death.

On a different topic about the eyes. Yall are gonna look real dumb when in the game they gain mastery over the dream world and they "awaken" to their powers and they suddenly all have Goku and Vegeta eyes and not sleepy drowsy eyes. Bookmark it.

 

[Hudo]

If y'all want to cry about shitty looking character designs, the Persona 6 designs have supposedly leaked. Now THAT is some shitty looking MC design.

 

[Hyet]

I like that female MC design for persona 6, but the male one is just too soft.

 

[TintoConCasera]

f y'all want to cry about shitty looking character designs, the Persona 6 designs have supposedly leaked. Now THAT is some shitty looking MC design.

Could always be a fake. In any case Persona character designs always go through a lot of iterations, so even if it's real those might look nothing like what they deliver in the end.

 

[Branded]

I hate how some of these newer Anime JRPG's from the big name studios look so Unreal-y. Seems very amateur in some places and reeks of "this is a tech demo".

China showing Japan how it's done in the past few years...

 

[Hudo]

Could always be a fake. In any case Persona character designs always go through a lot of iterations, so even if it's real those might look nothing like what they deliver in the end.

I do hope it's fake because I basically feel about these how this thread feels about DQ12's character designs.