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Dragon's Dogma 2 - 18 Minutes of Fighter, Thief, Warrior, and Sorcerer Gameplay - IGN Firs
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Damn! The people turned on DD2 overnight. This was supposed to be one of 2024s heavy hitters.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
If there is a 60fps option, I’m in! Or full controller support on pc
sigmaZ
Member
Just like making love. It's more about how it feels then how it looks.which mean they prioritize the right things.
it is better that it is:
look 'clunky' but good when actually playing/hold the controller
rather than:
look awesome, realistic, fancy animation but clunky, unresponsive and slog when actually playing/hold the controller. lot of games particularly western games made this mistake.
simply to say this is good example of where developers prioritize control foremorest than focusing something that only look good on video but not when actually playing the game. its not that they cant. but they wont. this is Capcom, headed by Hideaki Itsuno itself. they know what they are doing.
here is some example of explaination done by PlatinumGames developers:
- PlatinumGames's Nier Automata animator Takayuki Muranaka
Meet PlatinumGames’ NieR:Automata team! | PlatinumGames Official Blog
PG game designer Takahisa Taura here. It was my pleasure to share some new information and footage from NieR:A […]www.platinumgames.com
..and oh yeah..IGN is terrible at making gameplay video as always. messy, uncoordinated and like someone who dont know what to do.
sendit
Member
Please no. And thank god. Lock on is stupid.
I hate games with lock on mechanics, it feels like a handicap.
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DD1 early mid game is actually terrible , easily 6/10 if you play the starter class . I dropped it at the first 10 hours too .
But when its open up the hybrid class, its started to really shine . These class is very unique (at that time) and fun to play .
MALpractice311
Member
According to who? DD1 didn't set the sales charts on fire, nor was it that critically acclaimed, unless I'm totally misremembering something.
DavidGzz
Member
It's just this forum that I've seen. Asmongold reacted to it. He and his chat seemed really positive. I think it looks awesome.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Yea. I’m not even trying to bash on it. I had DD1 day 1 and I’ll be there day 1 for DD2. I swear I thought I was looking at footage from DD1 when I saw the footage.
I wanna love it, but it has some irritating parts about it. The combat really keeps it going. If the combat sucked then I’d probably skip it all. I had fun fighting those Chimera back in DD1 and the cyclops. What pissed me off was how teleportation worked and how traveling at night was impossible without a torch or some magic.
sendit
Member
Did you read the thread (barely 2 pages) or just shit post hoping this would land?
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DaciaJC
Gold Member
I think most people who were fans of the first game are excited for this one. There isn't as much of a generational leap as one might expect considering the 12-year gap between releases, so people who are on the fence or who didn't really care for the original may not be as positive.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
This guy really doesn't like Single player games and get every opportunity to shit on it and make the case of "GaaS games are the future".
Also this game got its cult following because of its combat system so of course they going keep that intact.
ssringo
Member
I watched it through the fighter section. It's what I expected including the mediocre gaming skill from IGN. Won't rag on them too hard but it's obvious to fans of the original that they didn't really know what they were doing.
Don't want to watch more to go in as blind as possible. 2.5 months to go!
Don't want to watch more to go in as blind as possible. 2.5 months to go!
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N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
Thank you for the explanation. Dogma sounds more like my cup of tea.
Again, much appreciated
Regginator
Member
I had no doubt whatsoever that the combat would be absolutely banging, because the first one was already amazing in that regard, but I'm more interested now in the narrative and world-building aspects. The first one really shit the bed on that regard. I remember, for whatever reason, the blacksmith being my "loved one" for the final segment because apparently I interacted with him the most. It really was quite a sight. But I don't think the story and whatever will be much better than in the first one.
lifa-cobex
Member
I wonder if we get Berserk DLC like the first game.....
Tarnpanzer
Member
Currently 20h into the first game and having a blast. Plays really well on PC.
I really like the world and the dungeons. Chatter from the pawns can be annoying sometimes, but most of the time the chatter makes the exploring somewhat "wholesome". Would be pretty boring to explore the world without your pawns.
I really like the world and the dungeons. Chatter from the pawns can be annoying sometimes, but most of the time the chatter makes the exploring somewhat "wholesome". Would be pretty boring to explore the world without your pawns.
Skifi28
Member
I'd go for a monster hunter collaboration too.
Denton
Member
What? That's hilarious.
Kikorin
Member
Seems a low-budget sequel made because the first one become a cult in the long time after the release and it's fine. Capcom for sure is not expecting it to sell lot more than the first one did, but I'll try it when the price will drop some months after release. The IGN gameplay is embarassing tho (because who is playing have no idea of what is doing), don't do the game any favour. In this case probably would be better for devs to release a longplay made by them to really showcase how the game plays when you are at least a bit skilled and used to controls.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
To be completely honest and even though I love the first game and what it did for the genre (which to this day no one even tried to copy - C'MON! WHY!?), DD2 looks and plays almost 100% like the first game, minus modern engine and assets... and I've seen and played that game 10 yrs ago. I think that with this one, Capcom simply decided to go a much safer route and don't change much if anything at all. I'll buy and play it at some point for sure, just not day 1. Hopefully the game will sell well to fund their more ambicious, less safe and completely new projects 
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
So that's why Ocarina of Time is still number 1 of all time... Games without lock-on make you look like a handicap.
You had me look that up with the quickness only to find out its some lame armor.
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Skifi28
Member
I didn't expect this game to be so divisive. I can see why, in many ways it seems more like a remake than a sequel so if I already had 150 hours in the game I'd probably not be as excited. Myself having not played that much from the first due to technical stuff that just turned me off, I'm really looking forward to dive in and enjoy the same core but with upgraded tech.
I'm also disappointed it wasn't troll penises.
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Exentryk
Member
Lol at the slow warrior class. Sorcerer looked good.
Again, these are base classes. The game has advanced classes and those are the most fun to play. Looking forward to Magick Archer and Mystic Knight type classes. The other fun aspect of the game is to train your "pawns". These are your AI party members and you can train them enough to be able to take on Cyclops and other enemies by themselves. I had a video doing exactly this on my old channel, but it's gone now.
Anyway, I'll be there day 1 on PC. Just need to figure out the timing between FF7 Rebirth and this.
Again, these are base classes. The game has advanced classes and those are the most fun to play. Looking forward to Magick Archer and Mystic Knight type classes. The other fun aspect of the game is to train your "pawns". These are your AI party members and you can train them enough to be able to take on Cyclops and other enemies by themselves. I had a video doing exactly this on my old channel, but it's gone now.
Anyway, I'll be there day 1 on PC. Just need to figure out the timing between FF7 Rebirth and this.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
My guess is that it looked boring because the person (or persons) playing were so bad at showcasing the game mechanics. The guy playing the warrior was particularly bad, he was just flailing about, kept running around the monster without doing anything and when he tried, he completely missed the target. Was awful to watch. Why would any self-respecting games journalist publish something so embarrassing?
I'm disappointed by the visuals. Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen for the PS4 had minor visual upgrades compared to the PS3 version, this has minor visual upgrades compared to the PS4 game.
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
There isn't actually much they can do technically to build upon the original without pushing the hardware requirements to the moon. Its a game that's pretty much constantly running in a "worst case" scenario for load management.
Consider, its open world with actual dynamic time-of-day where night-time is properly dark. The player is constantly running around with up to 3 AI controlled pawns all of whom are capable of casting magic with screen-filling transparency effects, while fighting substantial numbers of enemies. Larger enemies can be climbed upon Shadow Of The Colossus-style -and yes this includes the pawns as well as the player- including scenarios where said enemies fly into the air so no careful LoD-ing needs to be managed.
Not to take a dig at FROM, but it took them years to incorporate jumping and climbing into the player's arsenal, whereas DD was doing this to the extreme over a decade ago. So for me, if it looks and performs similarly to Elden Ring then Capcom's engineers are doing one hell of a job as they have a lot more work to do in every frame.
Consider, its open world with actual dynamic time-of-day where night-time is properly dark. The player is constantly running around with up to 3 AI controlled pawns all of whom are capable of casting magic with screen-filling transparency effects, while fighting substantial numbers of enemies. Larger enemies can be climbed upon Shadow Of The Colossus-style -and yes this includes the pawns as well as the player- including scenarios where said enemies fly into the air so no careful LoD-ing needs to be managed.
Not to take a dig at FROM, but it took them years to incorporate jumping and climbing into the player's arsenal, whereas DD was doing this to the extreme over a decade ago. So for me, if it looks and performs similarly to Elden Ring then Capcom's engineers are doing one hell of a job as they have a lot more work to do in every frame.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Sold. The true successor to Minority Report has finally arrived.
Schmendrick
Member
Hmm how`d you ever get that impression from this title? I mean this isn`t exactly a blockbuster AAA production.
It´s probably best described as ~AA fan service and I doubt even Capcom expect to make much money on this.
Complistic
Member
This is an immediate buy. Just need reviews to see what I want to buy it on.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
There are no capcom games that don't have controller support on pc.
The fact that it's one of the only games that has true night, instead of a silly blue sky is an awesome decision, it actually makes the world tangibly more dangerous.
The griffin fight completely changes at night, since when it takes off it actually disappears into the sky and you carefully have to scan for movement before it attacks again.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
All the prior threads on DD2 were extremely positive. It also always popped up on "Most anticipated games in 2024" lists.
Schmendrick
Member
I actually looked up the sales figures and it sold much better than I remembered ~7mio to date.
Now I´m even more confused as to why this exists in the form it does at this point in time.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
Nah the first game was firmly AAA, 200 people worked on it, all the music was recorded by an orchestra of 130 people, and they had to fundamentally change their in house engine because it didn't support open world design.
Their inexperience with open world and having to change the engine caused them to burn through the budget and wound up cutting over 50% of the game, a lot of which will show up in DD2.
In comparison, less than 150 people worked on RE5 and the music was recorded by an orchestra of 103 people.
MasterDerico
Member
That's it.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
It’s cool for a while. I’ll give you that. It’s just like with anything that’s true to realism. It’s fun until it gets frustrating. It sure made the game stand out.
Fbh
Member
This gameplay clip in particular was pretty bad but I'm still excited about the game. The "clunckyness" is part of what makes it good IMO because it often allows for fun unscripted interactions during fights, and if you know how to play you can still make it look cool, it's just not a "press X to awesome" game like, say, FFXVI.
More than graphics I hope it improved upon the original in stuff like story and progression.
Like have they talked at all about how leveling will work in this game? The one thing I hated in the original was that stat increases were tied to your class, I'd much rather just get stat points which I can assign myself.
Also the graphics look fine IMO IF there's a solid 60fps mode on console. If it's another upscaled 720p scenario the visuals would be disappointing.
More than graphics I hope it improved upon the original in stuff like story and progression.
Like have they talked at all about how leveling will work in this game? The one thing I hated in the original was that stat increases were tied to your class, I'd much rather just get stat points which I can assign myself.
Also the graphics look fine IMO IF there's a solid 60fps mode on console. If it's another upscaled 720p scenario the visuals would be disappointing.