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Dreams Stream And Beta Sign Up Info On The 4th
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ThatStupidLion
Member
Anyone get in today?!
I get it was a closed beta... but woof.
I get it was a closed beta... but woof.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Any confirmation on level size yet?
Are they bigger than the LBP games without the need of going through a portal?
Could you replicate a decent sized 3D level say Duke Nukem 3D level one without the need of a portal?
Are they bigger than the LBP games without the need of going through a portal?
Could you replicate a decent sized 3D level say Duke Nukem 3D level one without the need of a portal?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It's really difficult to explain size in Dreams. For one thing, flecks (the paint tool) is MUCH cheaper than sculptures and so you can make background stuff with that as well as grass, bushes, water, trees etc. Sculpts are by no means straightforward in terms of saving space. If you watch the latest stream you'll see John explaining about sculpts and you can see how different approaches can make the thermo shoot up or down. Also, if you made a sculpt that took, lets say 25% of the thermo, even if you cloned that sculpt 1000 times, it would still only be 25% of the thermo. Complex sculpts take up as much of the thermo as something as simple as a box (weird, I know). Repeating assets, building correctly and using paint will get you enormous levels if you want. You also have to remember that the level links can be activated from anywhere in the level and do not need to be a door, passageway, elevator or anything along those lines.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Just to follow up on the thermo question:
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Thanks for the ongoing information,
GribbleGrunger
I haven't gotten a code (yet) but it's great to hear snippets of how the game operates.
GribbleGrunger
I haven't gotten a code (yet) but it's great to hear snippets of how the game operates.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I think 'keyframes' are going to save thermo too once people start using them more extensively. Keyframes merely record the 'state' of something and so you can adjust settings and it records those too. Where once you had to set up logic to have a block move from 'a' to 'b' AND make it throb between blue and black, AND have it change size, with keyframes, all you'd need to do is place a keyframe down, place it on a timeline, place another keyframe down, adjust the settings required, place that down on the timeline, and then adjust the transition between the two keyframes (an area that appears between the keyframes when placed on a timeline).
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It will make much more sense when we'll have our hands on it I guess
There could be a major problem here though. Think about it: You're looking through someone's logic to figure out how they did something only to find lots of the 'logic' is made up of recordings using the keyframes. Now there is no way you're going to be able to figure out what they did because the keyframe only records the settings but doesn't display them.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Mmmm ... I don't think it's going to be that straightforward. let's say someone makes a keyframe change 10 values on several pieces of logic and that logic is sitting there on the microchip alongside the keyframe but not connected via wires. How do you know what values are changed in order to then continue along the logic to work out why 'this particular thing happened'? Remember, when you follow logic, the logic is usually affected by a string of logical steps and you can easily follow them but if the logic is affected by a keyframe, even though you've followed the logic along the end result won't match what you would normally assume the result would be.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, there's lots of things to be confused about even when you've had it for three weeks. My head hurts.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Some of these creations are now reaching professional levels. Absolutely stunning stuff ... and to think, this is only a short beta.
Grinchy
Banned
Keep rubbing it in!
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Keep rubbing it in!
None of them are mine ... It's harder for me to have to face them on a daily basis than it is for you to not have to! Don't be so selfish!!!
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is so cute.
And this First Person shooter looks dark and awesome!
And this First Person shooter looks dark and awesome!
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
This is so cute.
And this First Person shooter looks dark and awesome!
Still not the best out there though ...
ThatStupidLion
Member
https://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/article/dreams_creator_beta_update
looks like they extended beta to feb 4th, adding 3 more waves of codes to be released.
first wave is today!
looks like they extended beta to feb 4th, adding 3 more waves of codes to be released.
first wave is today!
ThatStupidLion
Member
yes.
sad. Just give it to some big streamers and create a fucking HYPE.....
julio_grr
Member
"then on Monday, 21st January 2019 we will be sending out codes to the remainder of EU sign-ups "
If I read it correctly, everyone who signed up will be able to join. Proper response from Media Molecule !
I still was not in todays invites so I'm beginning to fear I misspelled my PSN when signing up...
If I read it correctly, everyone who signed up will be able to join. Proper response from Media Molecule !
I still was not in todays invites so I'm beginning to fear I misspelled my PSN when signing up...
Grinchy
Banned
While I want it that way too, I can kinda see why they don't do it. A big public reveal of incomplete ideas and levels made in this short time window will be off-putting to the casual crowd that needs to buy it down the road. "This is all it is? This is all you can create? I don't get this game!"
ThatStupidLion
Member
i'm hoping they either add in a patch the ability to import image files or someone creates a pixel art editor tool
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, people are ahead of me! Good to see. For anyone who has got in today, head over to my collections and check them out. Most people have just put collections together for the sake of it. I've been really picky and only picked solid art and games.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It will never support image files. Everything in Dreams is made in Dreams.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
US codes haven't gone out yet so don't panic, at least for a little while longer.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Meh, deleted it, I've seen enough browsing stuff for about 5 hours. It's not for me as I have a backlog of 30 PS4 games I'd like to play before touching this ever again. I can see the appeal of the tools they're offering though if you want to create something. It's not a game yet if ever.
ThatStupidLion
Member
i thought they were going out at 9GMT, which woulda been 4pm on east coast. have not gone out?
julio_grr
Member
And me who want to invest time in the creation tool can't have code
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Who would have guessed.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
People are just now receiving their codes so check.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, God, I don't know if I should even go there but I feel it's a possibility. I'm flicking between here and 'the other site' (I go there for Dreams) and the amount of people over there getting in the beta is remarkable compared to here. It's too big for it just to be the amount of users ... so what is it? MM have a policy of employing women to better represent 'diversity'. Sony are now censoring games that 'sexualise' women. 'The other site' is filled with SJWs ....
Coincidence? Maybe ... but certainly worth noting.
Coincidence? Maybe ... but certainly worth noting.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, good. Nip over to my channel and check my collection out. You'll find some good stuff there.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Did you experience that silenthill-esque creation? It's worth popping over to see his other creations. Check out the traffic lights in the wind.
Grinchy
Banned
Not yet. I knew I wouldn't have a whole lot of time until later but I just went through as much as I could in one sitting.
I don't know how much I'm supposed to say here publicly, but anyone who was annoyed by how long it took to sift through and load up LBP levels, you are in for a treat with this game.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Seems like a stretch.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Just a hint about finding content. Don't bother with dream surfing, go straight to create mode (separated into categories). There you can find everything and in their own categories. You just want games, go to the create game section. You just want sculptures, just go to the sculpture section. It was actually over a week before some people cottoned on to this (including me).
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Grinchy
Banned
Ahhh, that does help. I was doing the surfing, and while it served the purpose initially, coming back to it just leads to the same list that you have to scroll through to get to something you haven't seen yet.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It also doesn't show everything.
trikster40
Member
Got my code today, just finished downloading. Hoping to check it out first thing in the AM.
julio_grr
Member
I wouldn’t care. Given the target audience of MM games, the people over-there probably signed-up en-masse. It’s very niche on GAF. So the numbers show up over-there.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Yeah, it's probably that. The difference is just striking.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Considering that there are allegedly business insiders over there it's not far-fetched they got some extra codes out of the normal application procedure. Actually, If I were Sony or MM I'd give out codes amongst the most loyal fanbase first. On a positive note, the ones who arrive later in the game (upon release, probably) will have plenty of tools already created by other players so that we can build from there. I am already writing down some notes on ideas for videogames or creations.
I just wish Sony nails the marketing and community management of this game.
I just wish Sony nails the marketing and community management of this game.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I've currently got two ideas for games and neither have ever been done before! Both are going to really test and annoy the player. I might throw in a little voice over mocking the player just to make matters worse. Placeholder names: X-it and I Quit. I'm going to have a problem with I Quit because I only want the score board to register the first attempt and people will not get on the scoreboard if they restart or reset. It will be the least attempts + time. The reason for the time is just in case some people do it in the same amount of attempts.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
First of all, thanks to everyone for all of your feedback, questions, bug reports and insightful chats! One of the main purposes of this Beta has been to gather feedback from you, our lovely community, so we can see where we need to make adjustments, deploy fixes or add some polish. You haven't let us down and it's been super interesting for us to read about your experiences - even if your feedback doesn't get a Molecule response rest assured we are trying to read, organise and prioritise everything that comes in. As we open up the beta further, we wanted to address some of those key points and let you know our plans.
So, onto those burning issues...
Controls!
We know motion control can be tricky to get to grips with, especially when you're starting out. What has been really heartening for us is that many of you have shared your success stories after spending a bit of time in Dreams, even after initially struggling. Creating in Dreams is like any new skill - it takes some time to learn. That said, we've been blown away by the creations that have already been appearing in the Dreamiverse. You are a talented lot!
We have already been working on a completely motion-free control scheme for the DS4 and your feedback has reinforced that some players will need it. Our desire is to make Dreams as accessible as possible and we have already prototyped a completely motion-free control scheme for the DS4. We now need to move this prototype through the phases (finishing the design, and then moving into final implementation, testing, user testing, updating tutorials etc) and so it’s a little way off but rest assured it is on its way. We'll update the community when we have a clear release window for this feature.
Tutorials!
We have a bunch more tutorials already in the works including Character Creation, Character Gameplay and some extra Move controller tutorials. We have plans for loads more too, and we really want to dig into logic a bit deeper. I know it's been tough for you all especially as the NDA has prevented you from sharing community tutorials or from chatting on channels other than the forum (which is obviously not ideal as it's mainly designed for feedback!). Tutorials do take quite a bit of time to make (Connie is such a diva) but rest assured there are many more planned for Dreams.
We are also still working on the tutorial player and will be implementing some of your suggestions- for example, the ability to skip forwards 10 seconds and a better progress indicator in the Dreams Workshop.
Dreamiverse!
The Dreamiverse team has been working incredibly hard to make the experience of browsing, publishing, commenting and sharing Dreams better for everyone. This was one of the areas that we knew wasn't in its final form when we released the Beta and all of your feedback has been super helpful in refining the ways we're improving it already. Expect to see lots of thoughtful changes to the Dreamiverse when we release.
So, once again: thank you all. Hopefully this covers a lot of the big concerns some of you have, but please do continue giving us your feedback, questions and bugs - we appreciate all of it!
https://feedback.indreams.me/knowledgebase/articles/1896073-beta-report-what-we-ve-learned-so-far
So, onto those burning issues...
Controls!
We know motion control can be tricky to get to grips with, especially when you're starting out. What has been really heartening for us is that many of you have shared your success stories after spending a bit of time in Dreams, even after initially struggling. Creating in Dreams is like any new skill - it takes some time to learn. That said, we've been blown away by the creations that have already been appearing in the Dreamiverse. You are a talented lot!
We have already been working on a completely motion-free control scheme for the DS4 and your feedback has reinforced that some players will need it. Our desire is to make Dreams as accessible as possible and we have already prototyped a completely motion-free control scheme for the DS4. We now need to move this prototype through the phases (finishing the design, and then moving into final implementation, testing, user testing, updating tutorials etc) and so it’s a little way off but rest assured it is on its way. We'll update the community when we have a clear release window for this feature.
Tutorials!
We have a bunch more tutorials already in the works including Character Creation, Character Gameplay and some extra Move controller tutorials. We have plans for loads more too, and we really want to dig into logic a bit deeper. I know it's been tough for you all especially as the NDA has prevented you from sharing community tutorials or from chatting on channels other than the forum (which is obviously not ideal as it's mainly designed for feedback!). Tutorials do take quite a bit of time to make (Connie is such a diva) but rest assured there are many more planned for Dreams.
We are also still working on the tutorial player and will be implementing some of your suggestions- for example, the ability to skip forwards 10 seconds and a better progress indicator in the Dreams Workshop.
Dreamiverse!
The Dreamiverse team has been working incredibly hard to make the experience of browsing, publishing, commenting and sharing Dreams better for everyone. This was one of the areas that we knew wasn't in its final form when we released the Beta and all of your feedback has been super helpful in refining the ways we're improving it already. Expect to see lots of thoughtful changes to the Dreamiverse when we release.
So, once again: thank you all. Hopefully this covers a lot of the big concerns some of you have, but please do continue giving us your feedback, questions and bugs - we appreciate all of it!
https://feedback.indreams.me/knowledgebase/articles/1896073-beta-report-what-we-ve-learned-so-far