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Driveclub Pre-E3 preview event
- Thread starter stryke
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With as much respect as it deserves, I take issue with this:
They give the impression they're using real-time photonic simulation to get the effect a shader could (and almost certainly is) achieving. I have my doubts that it's as they've characterized. I'd be happy to be mistaken on this point.
They give the impression they're using real-time photonic simulation to get the effect a shader could (and almost certainly is) achieving. I have my doubts that it's as they've characterized. I'd be happy to be mistaken on this point.
PhantomFear
Member
Well, I'm screwed. No matter how hard I try, my poor driving skills turn every race into a game of bumper cars.
So what about Forza?
NullPointer
Member
Does it have to be real-time? Seems like the kind of thing you can get away with baking in while still achieving the correct end result.
No, I'm saying the opposite: I'm saying it doesn't need to be real-time, because that would be preposterous in terms of computing and unnecessary because the shader achieves the same thing. My issue is that slide giving the impression it is.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, I guess I just didn't get the same impression - that it was being calculated in real-time anyway. Just that they had the wherewithal and took the time to calculate it at all because they're kind of insane.
Doesn't seem like there would be any point in doing that in real time unless it could vary. I'm certainly not a graphics tech guy, and maybe that why I didn't get the same impression as you ;p
SolidSnakex
Member
The F12 roars though. The DC audio isn't too far off, but isn't right either...needs some more "loud" guttural growl though. I mentioned it in the other post about audio, but here's some good examples of a roaring F12.
Wait for the car to get on it in both instances. Listen to both...love that growl.
MP3 F12 (right on the car)
Youtube Vid (quite a ways from the car) (3:02-3:06 is excellent too)
Yep...that growl needs to be there. Good stuff.
What do you think about that MP3 of the F12?
It wouldn't be much different than sub surface scattering. Obviously the resolution would be thousand of orders of magnitude lower than in the real world. But any PC simulation, game or other, is.
That said I'm guessing its marketing fluff for a simple shader. The GI lighting and volemetric clouds and lighting effects aren't though.
Wait a second. They just said in that video gamer TV video is is ONLY asynchronous multiplayer? Is that right? There is no actual online racing?
What a joke.
I do agree that the image implies that it's a real-time calculation, but I WOULDN'T be happy if you were mistaken, as IMO, doing such a real-time calculation is a total waste of time for the pay-off it provides.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, no. They've talked about 6 on 6 club vs. club races for a long time now.
It doesn't say it's realtime simulation. It could very well be a simple formula based on a precomputed model for each car. The statement would still hold true in that case. A lot of fancy words, for sure, but that's what PR is all about.
(agreed, btw)
http://zippy.gfycat.com/SilentImpressionableHoki.webm
The real-time reflections in this game are off the charts.
The real-time reflections in this game are off the charts.
Well don't you think they should have that working by now? No one has seen it. Everyone at the press event was playing AI.
Graphics Horse
Member
It's probably a simplified version of this: http://www.gamedev.net/page/resourc...film-interference-for-computer-graphics-r2962. There they run it for 3 wavelengths and get good results,
Absolutely gorgeous.
It's leaking into the aero a bit but the overall effect is worth it
Gerstmann is full of bizarre spur of the moment opinions. He once ate a vegetable, thought they were gross than never ate one again in his life. He seems to do the same thing with games, make a decision in five minutes and stubbornly defend his opinion.
I'm not claiming it's console bias or anything, he does it repeatedly whether it is The Last of Us or Super Time Force.
So I haven't seen this posted yet?
4TheSenses 1: Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19IXmK7P-Ao
My god, that sound's so good.
4TheSenses 1: Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19IXmK7P-Ao
My god, that sound's so good.
It's online racing, what do you need to see?
More than once in multiple threads
...heck, just scroll up some..we're discussing audio. Even audio specific to that exact car.Gerstmann is someone I listen to when he's praising a game, because he can pinpoint why a game feels good to play better than anyone else, in my opinion.
But when it comes to games he doesn't play much of/doesn't care much for, they're obviously not as sharp.
Considering the fact I wasted an entire night trying to join a BF4 server with my friends and that game has been out for 6 months I would like to see how they handle the club joining races?
WTF is this nonsense?
The defense force for this game is out of control.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Are you asking for this or is this confirmed?
NullPointer
Member
The Playstation Access video did mention that joining with friends and setting up club events was easy by way of the dynamic menu. Seeing as how that menu was the primary reason given for the delay, maybe they're still working or reworking out those particular kinks.
That's just a guess though.
I think it was info from the Playstation Access interview, a lot of good info in there. That interview also mentioned 10 seconds maximum load times for races.
Maybe I need to watch it again, I thought they were talking about setting up offline challenges.
Naw, your just overreacting. What does your experience with battlefield have to do with any other game not made by dice?
The games not out till October, they have plenty of time to show more, and I'm sure they will.
SolidSnakex
Member
I was impressed with it. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction. I'm far more concerned with the Zonda R though. It sounds way too quiet. Especially in the interior. Like I said in another thread, I don't think that it has much of any sound deadening since it's all about performance and anything that would add weight is taken out of it. That interior should be near deafening.
The supercharger whine on the Shelby GT500. *drool*
Media blitz. Keep missing stuff. Anyway, cool vid.
TheJollyCorner
Member
please allow custom soundtracks, Evolution/Sony. :{
Naw I am just really getting tired of the "trust us guys it will totally work fine" BS.
Great sense of speed.
Awesome. Pretty good suspension action. Track reminds me of Willow Springs. On a side note, such a great time to be an simcade racing fan. This, Forza Horizon 2 and Project Cars. And the great thing is, they each have their own merits and gameplay balance. Solid.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I thought P.Cars will full on Sim?
NullPointer
Member
Seriously this.
Horizon was the only racing game where I actually enjoyed the soundtrack, and even then I just bought the tracks I liked and made a custom mix anyway. Racing games are incredibly enhanced by playing them with your own favorite tunes.
Absolutely gorgeous.
Words can't express how amazing that looks.
I don't see how this is sim/cade, and I'm pretty sure Project Cars is striving to be a sim, they haven't finalised physics yet.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Playstation Access preview was the best.
Confirmed. I was just randomly highlighting stuff in videos I came across online.
Fried Food
Banned
The only impressions I want to read are those from the driving game/sim community.