There's still no reason why they can't at least provide the option to turn it off. If you're not using it with the PS eye and don't care about its other uses (again, why would I be glancing at the controller to see how low my health is in Killzone?), it should be able to be turned off, plain and simple.
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Dual Shock 4 lightbar can't be turned off
- Thread starter Pachimari
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There's still no reason why they can't at least provide the option to turn it off. If you're not using it with the PS eye and don't care about its other uses (again, why would I be glancing at the controller to see how low my health is in Killzone?), it should be able to be turned off, plain and simple.
System option to turn off the goddamn light rather than resorting to duct tape or angling the TV funny > fanboy excuses for a corporation
Come on. An option, people -- how can you argue against programming an option to turn off the light?
I completely agree that they should give you an option to turn it off, with a prompt whenever something game-related that requires the light letting you turn it back on (if there ever is something that requires it).
reptilescorpio
Member
Isn't that what a patch is for? Or do you mean install a switch on the top of the controller to flick the light on and off? The light is in there for gameplay purposes, they won't remove it.
family_guy
Member
Holy crap, this dude is freaking out.
Here's a solution for your light issue:
Completely tacky. You shouldn't have to do this.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Sony needs to pull a Steve Jobs (ala iphone 4 antenna gate) and come out and tell you all that you are holding your controllers wrong
You need to hold your controllers with the lightbar pointing upwards when playing regular games
You need to hold your controllers with the lightbar pointing upwards when playing regular games
So what is the right way to hold the controller? Because in the last page, the other screens and video show people holding the controller on their LAP and it still glares off the screen.
Yeah, if he was talking about just putting in an option to turn it off (I thought he was saying take away the light before they start manufacturing), that would likely require a patch since they probably already have the launch firmware set in place.
Dude stop crying already and get it together. If there's a way for Sony to let us toggle it off, they will. If there isn't just deal with it or don't buy them damn console. Or just wait for third party controllers.
Sure, if your only metric is screen reflectiveness. And even then its debatable. Before I bought a Panasonic plasma, I had a top end XBR Bravia. And it was pretty much as reflective as the plasma that replaced it.
If you care about motion, contrast, black level etc, then plasmas are still king.
You know, I don't really have a problem with the underlying request here, just the attitude in the way it's framed. Nothing's broken - the product is working as designed. Have the courtesy to appreciate that and ask for a new feature instead of trashing it unnecessarily as a broken product.
It gets real tiring to see people label things broken just because it doesn't work they way they want it to. It's not much of a surprise if product engineers aren't particularly inclined to prioritize such requests.
Why are you so sensitive to people constructively criticizing the console? Am I just supposed to shower praise on every decision Sony makes?
I'm buying a PS4 -- I need to have the system that gets a TLoU sequel and may get a 1080p/60fps version of TLoU -- but this is undeniably a terrible design choice. It's a glare so bright that it even shows up on the screen when the room is brightly lit, as in those pictures. Imagine how bad it'll be in the dark when it's the only light source in the room. Rather than crying about people complaining, why not acknowledge Sony should maybe change it or rethink the reason why it's there in the first place.
No amount of added functionality justifies the irksome distraction of a blue blob in the middle of the screen.
krypt0nian
Banned
Thank you for this thread. I so needed a laugh after I had real problems tonight.
I pray for your salvation, and that SONY removed this Achilles Heel before they fall from grace.
I pray for your salvation, and that SONY removed this Achilles Heel before they fall from grace.
The image quality is broken by the glare. A blue blob in the middle of the image, breaks the image. This logic is painfully simple and the evidence is plain to see. I'm fascinated people are looking at that shit and being like, "Yeah, you know, I'm cool with this."
Okay we get it. But if you really want something done about this then talk to Shuhei Yoshida or Adam Boyes over twitter or something. Here you are just wasting time.
To be fair, it "working as designed" actually means does absolutely nothing here. The light is pointless at best without the camera.
Not really -- this discussion creates a vast number of repeat exposures that builds momentum in interesting ways. GAF is great for exposure and for drawing attention to things to turn them around.
LMAO. This is too good.
But it is kinda clear from the thread that most people don't really care about this issue that much.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
why the fuck are you pointing your controller at the screen. at least point it to the ps4 box like a civilized gamer
I think that's because there's mainly Sony apologists in here (the only way to explain spinning this shit as a good thing). A separate thread at a separate time with a thread title that more clearly articulates the problem could draw in people who are currently ignoring the vague title "Dual Shock 4 lightbar can't be turned off." Once you see the pictures, the problem is undeniable.
Macho Madness
Member
They care enough to defend Sony's decision.
weekend_warrior
Banned
No I won't since my TV doesn't reflect light back like that one does.
I understand it might be a problem for some people, but it's a bit ridiculous to freak out over a single tweet. Maybe he was wrong about not being able to turn it off, maybe he got that information when Sony was considering packing in the eye and it's changed, whatever the situation is you'll at least be able to put tape over it if it bothers you.
Tallshortman
Member
I was here for the first page then skipped out until now. I kept seeing the thread grow and assumed it was just people joking. Apparently some people legitimately think this is a huge deal. I don't even know what to say.
family_guy
Member
What's worse is blue is probably one of the more subtle colors. If you're playing with friends you get to see green, orange, pink, etc. Nothing was wrong with the way controller assignments worked on PS3. As far as gameplay goes, no one cares about a health indicator. Will the light also flash when my health is low? Another annoyance that will be reflected on my television.
Look, if it's a major problem folks will complain when they buy PS4. They can always patch it out. This is really not a big deal.
RaySpencer
Member
Why do so many people that don't think this is an issue have to act like complete fucking douche bags??
Ok fine, you don't have a set up or a TV that might cause this to be an issue, fine, you don't have to be an absolute cunt about it.
Ok fine, you don't have a set up or a TV that might cause this to be an issue, fine, you don't have to be an absolute cunt about it.
Yeah, we'll see about that.
There's so much you can say about this issue until it becomes tiresome. Even though something like this isn't as nearly an issue for me as it is to you, I voiced my concern already without going on about it over and over again.
Also, my LCD/LED > plasmas comment was a joke aimed at plasma lovers.
SenkiDala
Member
You're not the only one feeling that way. It's just crazy, or funny. Or both.
If me explaining this once would actually suffice, we wouldn't have people repeatedly spouting the same falsehoods I've already addressed.
Sorry, I actually want a PS4, I'm not going to sit by quietly while Sony finalizes a terrible design choice that puts a giant blue blob in the middle of my screen when I try to play in the dark (or even in the light, for that matter, it's so fucking bright).
Why can't people complain about something on the PS4 without being trashed. It's a small thing. They don't want it. They post about it. It's not the end of the world. I'm sure it's the first complaint in many that both systems are going to get as we get closer to launch.
RedAssedApe
Banned
didn't want to look at all the posts in the thread. did someone who actually has had hands on playtime with the ps4 complain about this?
it was a joke bro. i thought it was obvious when i mentioned how steve jobs "condescendingly" told people that they were holding their iphones incorrectly causing the drop in antenna signal"...sigh
it was a joke bro. i thought it was obvious when i mentioned how steve jobs "condescendingly" told people that they were holding their iphones incorrectly causing the drop in antenna signal"...sigh
When I first saw posts about this on other forums, I thought this was a joke.
You know a system is looking good when this is the biggest complaint about it.
For this to be an issue, not only does your screen need to be glossy and for the room to be really dark, you need to hold your controller like they do in a bad video game ad.
See:
You know a system is looking good when this is the biggest complaint about it.
For this to be an issue, not only does your screen need to be glossy and for the room to be really dark, you need to hold your controller like they do in a bad video game ad.
See:
Whatever dude. Go on with your rant.
boredandlazy
Member
?
Practice what you preach.
I haven't seen any complaints from the DS4 hands on videos or anything of the sort until this thread.
If you want to get fancy, just cut out the exact shape from cardboard and bluetack it on. Easy on and off.
Wouldn't the only people with hands on be doing so in an environment loaded with people, not really suited for gaming anyway? This is the type of thing that doesn't seem like it would be brought up until it's in your house.
Well we have a large portion of bullshit posts like this one, which certainly helps.
Macho Madness
Member
I played it at E3. The light is as bright as the Move controller which I can see in my TV. This isn't good for me.
Good timing, here's an example of me needing to repeat myself (below):
There are images and video on the other page of people playing with the controller on their lap and the glare still showing.When I first saw posts about this on other forums, I thought this was a joke.
You know a system is looking good when this is the biggest complaint about it.
For this to be an issue, not only does your screen need to be glossy and for the room to be really dark, you need to hold your controller like they do in a bad video game ad.
See:
Also, people have things called different setups.
And no, nothing looks good about a blue blob in the middle of the screen.
I went with LED because I don't want my TV to dictate my viewing habits rather than vice versa.
If I want to watch 9 hours of NFL football followed by a 4 hour marathon gaming session with the biggest brightest HUD in the history of games, then I should be able to on my $1k+ device without worrying about ruining it.
And you think the light is somehow worse than the reflection of, you know, the people, room, etc?
Why are we singling out the light when in most of these pictures, there are intense reflections of everything?
I don't think any of them have played in their normal house (gamer den) condition. If it is a big problem we will probably not know until after launch, at which it can still be patched out.