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E-Sports League Will Test for PEDs
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Nah. Adderral is wayyyyyy more intense than those.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yep. Redbull, etc do nothing for me really. I personally do not notice the "kick" that others do.
Pop me a 20mg or 30mg Addie, and I'm buzzing along like a busy little bee for 4-6 hours.
By the same reasoning, a mediocre runner should be allowed to take steroids to help him compete with the world's best. It's unfortunate, but just as 99% of human beings will never be able to win the 100 meters because their body is not good enough, some people won't be able to compete in esports. They can still play as much as they want, just not as professional players.
"The opposing team lowered the DPI on our mice!"
Seems like in this case, it'll be far easier for eSports leagues to test for PEDs like compared to the drugs in physical athletic competition.
Shuggananas
Banned
Weird, I think it's publicly known that some dota players take adderall (but because of actual issues, not just to play) and it's ok with everybody
Man, bring back the memories when i watched it life many years ago.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It may be a little harder though as well. Amphetamine based drugs that people will use for performance gains from what I understand, does not stay in your system as long as other types of PEDs. Some flush out in 3-4 days of no use in urine tests.
They would have to test mid competition.
http://drug.addictionblog.org/how-long-do-amphetamines-stay-in-your-system/
PeskyToaster
Member
if you need drugs to help you, you ain't even good.
That's like saying if you need cleats in football/soccer/etc, you're not even good. These type of things enhance the skills you already have, not give you skills that were never there to begin with.
LucidMomentum
Member
In a lot of cases it's not that these people aren't good already, they use Adderall and such to stay good over long periods of time and to stay consistent when it's clutch time.
My local biweekly smash tournaments go from 5 to 1-2 in the morning, with grand finals going on around midnight. Most of the time I end up in 4th / 5th because I'm way too tired then to play that well. I drop off way faster than the usual top 3.
With the prize pools some of the major tourneys have, I'm surprised testing hasn't happened sooner. At our locals no one would really care if you were taking PEDs to get that $50 pot bonus, but at ESL One or EVO that may be a different story.
PadWarrior
Member
Lol!!!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They became legit when the prize pool got as large as it did with sponsored players.
This is just the next evolution of a physical skill based sport.
If poker tournies are considered a legit sport now, so should this.
Emensely less fatugue of mental and motor functions over time of competition. Clearer focus at the tasks at hand, and greatly improved reflexes. Adderall to an already skilled player can babe a significant boost in skill.
from what I've heard it allows you to maintain focus for long periods of time.
People seem to think "lol dey jus play vidya games, what's so hard about it" but it's really mentally draining.
AmethystEnd
Member
If anyone's tournament performance significantly drops after this...
TouchMyBox
Member
I'm sure they cry themselves to sleep at night surrounded by the hundreds of thousands/millions they won in prizepool money.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
I get that, I just am not too familiar with the effects of the drug.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Problem is they would have to test mid competition. There is no way of finding out if they are on adderall unless it is at the time of competition.
It isn't like steroids, HGH, or estrogen blockers a football player would take in cycles over time to improve his game. It's effects are at the time of the drug being used, and if you don't take it 3-4 days in advance of testing, there is no way of them knowing you use it.
Collateral22
Member
Pretty much everyone from CoD to CSGO does Adderall before big games, it's well known. Needs to be cracked down on.
RealityCheque
Banned
Q: "how do you sleep at night?"
A : "on top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies"
DirtyLarry
Member
I've always imagined a time in the not too distant future where all professional sports leagues would eventually have two leagues within their leagues.
The Dopers and The Nopers.
Let the people decide who they want to watch and support.
I would think most people would watch The Dopers as it would be more exciting, but I also think you would get a lot of support for The Nopers from people wanting to keep things pure and in the spirit of true competition.
Oh yeah one caveat, The Nopers would make significantly more money for their commitment to keeping things on an even playing field.
The Roman Coliseum days are pretty much upon us already, so why not take it to the extreme is the way I see it.
The Dopers and The Nopers.
Let the people decide who they want to watch and support.
I would think most people would watch The Dopers as it would be more exciting, but I also think you would get a lot of support for The Nopers from people wanting to keep things pure and in the spirit of true competition.
Oh yeah one caveat, The Nopers would make significantly more money for their commitment to keeping things on an even playing field.
The Roman Coliseum days are pretty much upon us already, so why not take it to the extreme is the way I see it.
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
RIP Dank Memes
adamantypants
Member
This is fantastic news. Hilarious, but fantastic.
I can see why they'd test as you mention. When there's competition, add in money, there should be a level playing field.
fatal1ty's map prescence and domination of spawned items is well above his opponent. Then there's fatal1ty's extremely better shooting skills and use of the rail gun at times to make sure some of the encounters get finished.
He runs when he should and tries not to push unadvantageous situations. Very impressive imo also.
Although on second thought, I do like the idea of the Dopers and Nopers.
Let's ask ESPN
Adderal is basically legalized and controlled meth.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I'm a little curious about how they'll test for these drugs. I mean do they stay in the system that long?
No they do not. They are out of the system after a max of 4 days. 2 on average.
They would have to test mid competition which would be a trainwreck if caught. Or before completion and monitor what they put in their mouths. Or after the competition which is also a trainwreck.
evilromero
Member
There are negative side effects to any drug, caffeine included. I don't think they should be banned though, same with steroids. It should be up to the competitors to set the performance level.
Yeah as someone who used to take adderall before CS 1.6 competitions, it makes a HUGE difference in performance. an adderall me would absolutely smash a non-adderall me 20-0 consistently. it won't make a skilled player out of nowhere, but it will ensure that you play at your VERY best when you need to
problem is however these stimulants leave your system in 1-2 days so they would have to just show up clean, pee clean and then take as much stimulants as you want. to really catch substance abusers they would have to test after the match which would really fuck everything from spectator POV
so yeah, it's not going to work.
but i agree, it is most definitely an unfair advantage and it is cheating. on the other hand, getting a script is very easy and i'm sure these c9 players have them since they prob need a constant source
problem is however these stimulants leave your system in 1-2 days so they would have to just show up clean, pee clean and then take as much stimulants as you want. to really catch substance abusers they would have to test after the match which would really fuck everything from spectator POV
so yeah, it's not going to work.
but i agree, it is most definitely an unfair advantage and it is cheating. on the other hand, getting a script is very easy and i'm sure these c9 players have them since they prob need a constant source
TouchMyBox
Member
Okay, but every one on the list of the top 200 esports players have won at least hundreds of thousands of dollars.
evilromero
Member
Pretty sure caffeine, also an amphetamine, is banned in a lot of competitive sports.
Computer
Member
Halo esports is still going strong.and is about to exploded with H5. Oger 2 plays for CLG with is a huge org. He lives in the CLG house in cali. They have a top seeded team and are about to compete is the HCS or Halo Championship Series finals this weekend for 150k. So I would say he is doing pretty well.
With makes me wonder. The Halo Championship Finals are the first big event since this new policy.Plus it will be held in ESL studios. Will this be the first esport to have drug test?