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E3 Cancelled for Next Year and "Forseeable Future"?

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White Man said:
Reactions to E3 being cancelled sicken me.
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I've already said I think it doesn't bode well for the industry, but I think that whatever springs up in its place will be an improvement for me. I can't think of a worse way to cover new game titles. Maybe if the building was on fire.
 
Amir0x said:
next-gen so far has ruined every last aspect of gaming

it's awesome :lol
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I'm not so sure about gaming being ruined but yeah, I'm not happy about the direction it's taking. $600 consoles, microtransactions, $60 games...it doesn't look to good. I'm sure the industry will work itself out in the long run but I'll be damned if I could say I wasn't worried about it.
 
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http://blog.wired.com/games/index.blog?entry_id=1530368
 
Systems_id said:
I'm not so sure about gaming being ruined but yeah, I'm not happy about the direction it's taking. $600 consoles, microtransactions, $60 games...it doesn't look to good. I'm sure the industry will work itself out in the long run but I'll be damned if I could say I wasn't worried about it.
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most people are trying to rationalize the microtransactions and $600 consoles. Glad to see theres at least one other sane person here.

microtransactoins by themselves represent the one of the greatest evils ever. :x
 
kablooey said:
I can't believe it's taken 9 pages for this to be said. :lol
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Look, seriously, it's not the end of the damned world. Game journalism isn't suddely in the shitter because there isn't a convention center jam-filled with every major publisher vying for everyone's attention.

PR is PR, marketing is marketing, and publicity is publicity. Companies will still make sure their big, budget-busting blowouts will get the coverage they deserve.
 
BuddyC said:
The MODEL economy! Won't someone think of the models?

And the cab drivers! If E3 is truly at an end, that's one lessened week of chaos for them!
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Actually E3 week is also graduation week at USC, so it's not like cabbies and hotels will be at much of a loss. If anything this means more parents will be able to get hotels close to campus.

As for the stripp-er models. They'll find work, I'm sure of it.
 
xsarien said:
Game journalism isn't suddely in the shitter because there isn't a convention center jam-filled with every major publisher vying for everyone's attention.
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it's not game journalism that suffers, it's the consumer.
 
Kobun Heat said:
I can't think of a worse way to cover new game titles. Maybe if the building was on fire.
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Good point.

E3 is just so ridiculous. Yes, it's quite fun, but so overwhelming. I can't honestly say I was able to learn enough about the games to offer a relevant opinion on what I played. I had to spend a ton of time defending Too Human as well, since E3 games are very often incomplete garbage. I'd be sad to see it go, but it's not exactly a good place to play games.
 
Zenith said:
it's not game journalism that suffers, it's the consumer.
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How? Between the Internet, gaming magazines, digital delivery of demos and trailers (e.g., XBL and presumably Nintendo and Sony's online service) I don't think gamers are really losing a whole lot.
 
xsarien said:
Look, seriously, it's not the end of the damned world. Game journalism isn't suddely in the shitter because there isn't a convention center jam-filled with every major publisher vying for everyone's attention.

PR is PR, marketing is marketing, and publicity is publicity. Companies will still make sure their big, budget-busting blowouts will get the coverage they deserve.
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No no, I agree with most of that. I was just commenting on that particular meme of GAF-yesteryear. But nevermind.

I'll still miss E3, just for the pure spectacle of it, even if I realize it wasn't the most efficient way for the industry to present itself. Whatever comes along to take its place may be good for (the big) publishers, but it won't have the same kind of anticipation and scrutiny that E3 did.
 
More info from Ars:

Sources close to the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) tell Ars Technica that the show can and will go on, but that big changes are planned. The "Electronic Entertainment Expo" (hence E3) started in 1995 as a small but interesting annual convention for gaming, following roughly six months after the once-popular annual COMDEX computer trade-show in Las Vegas. The show has grown immensely in popularity, and that appears to be the problem.

Sources say that two major factors have led to the decision to transition the show to a more "closed-door" event. Both, coincidentally, were major reasons for COMDEX shutting down: cost and access. If you've never been to E3, let me describe it like this: long lines, truckloads of people, video games everywhere, and really fancy "booths" (where booth sometimes means basketball court-sized display area). As with COMDEX, the major players are reportedly tired of how much it costs to put on the dog and pony show. Turns out it costs millions of dollars to put the sparkle into an E3 blingfest.

Now in theory, these shows are primarily geared towards connecting businesspeople. To that end, E3 was (again, in theory) only open to industry folks and journalists. In recent years, however, the number of people attending have skyrocketed, in part because E3 registration was a moderately open process. The show was getting huge, and just as with COMDEX, the show-within-a-show was born. What I mean by that is that it was no longer enough to go to the show. To talk to someone who actually knew what they were talking about, you'd need an appointment. To see something really special, really worth writing about, you'd need to meet behind closed doors. To find out anything of interest about something that wasn't on a placard, you needed to get in with the right people. With COMDEX the practice started to get ridiculous; major players officially skipped the show but set up camp in Vegas hotels and had their sideshows for a fraction of the cost.

One source I spoke with told me that media access is indeed a problem, but it probably does not factor in greatly to the decision to downsize the show. Nevertheless, there are plenty of complaints from insiders about how "blogging" in particular has made the shows more difficult, if only because floor people are instructed to speak only of what they are approved to speak of, lest another half-baked headline make the rounds.
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Emphasis mine. Seems like some large companies don't like puny websites making fun of them.
 
Comdex was last done 3 years ago. No one talks about how the "PC Industry" is going down the tubes.

PS: I only read about the first 100 posts of this thread.
 
Nevertheless, there are plenty of complaints from insiders about how "blogging" in particular has made the shows more difficult, if only because floor people are instructed to speak only of what they are approved to speak of, lest another half-baked headline make the rounds.
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Bascially they don't like the fact that those sites can't have every post controlled and written by PR?
 
Gigglepoo said:
E3 is just so ridiculous. Yes, it's quite fun, but so overwhelming. I can't honestly say I was able to learn enough about the games to offer a relevant opinion on what I played. I had to spend a ton of time defending Too Human as well, since E3 games are very often incomplete garbage.
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Unless you're actually employed by Silicon Knights or Microsoft PR, you don't have to spend a lot of time defending their incomplete garbage. And I don't really see that many other 1st parties pushing unplayable 15fps demos on the show floor -- SK just has a problem with deadlines.
 
shantyman said:
Comdex was last done 3 years ago. No one talks about how the "PC Industry" is going down the tubes.

PS: I only read about the first 100 posts of this thread.
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so i guess you've never read any "PC GAMING IS DEAD" articles recently?
 
border said:
Unless you're actually employed by Silicon Knights or Microsoft PR, you don't have to spend a lot of time defending their incomplete garbage. And I don't really see that many other 1st parties pushing unplayable 15fps demos on the show floor -- SK just has a problem with deadlines.
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Yeah, I know. I didn't have to, but people frustrate me. E3 frustrates me. Everything on the showfloor is incomplete. Except for Gitaroo Man Lives there isn't one game I felt I could really trust. It's just a joke, you know? And it makes matters worse that the 3 best games I saw (BioShock, Mass Effect and Army of Two) weren't even playable.

I'm also sore at Nintendo for that super long wait. I didn't have to stay in it to play the Wii this year, but I did last year for Zelda. Quite annoying.
 
Gigglepoo said:
Yeah, I know. I didn't have to, but people frustrate me. E3 frustrates me. Everything on the showfloor is incomplete. Except for Gitaroo Man Lives there isn't one game I felt I could really trust. It's just a joke, you know? And it makes matters worse that the 3 best games I saw (BioShock, Mass Effect and Army of Two) weren't even playable.

I'm also sore at Nintendo for that super long wait. I didn't have to stay in it to play the Wii this year, but I did last year for Zelda. Quite annoying.
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Wow. you sure are picky.
 
Kobun Heat said:
I've already said I think it doesn't bode well for the industry, but I think that whatever springs up in its place will be an improvement for me. I can't think of a worse way to cover new game titles. Maybe if the building was on fire.
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I pretty much agree. I've been to E3 and it was a ****ing nightmare, I honestly feel sorry for people trying to do work there.

If they set up a smaller version I think that would be a huge improvement, but I would bet good money small fansites that are run by people that I see posting in this thread would NOT be able to get in, it'd only be for the big media (press and major websites like IGN, etc). The other downside is that it could be harder for smaller publishers to get in at all, or if they do get limited coverage.

If E3 is disbanded completely and everyone sets up their own events, I think that would really be bad. Each companies event would just be a huge PR spin, and we would never see anything like that except out of the biggest companies. We'd never see say Atlus throw something like that, and the smaller publishers would lose a lot of press coverage.
 
I am glad E3 is gone. It was nothing more than a ****in fanboy bitchfest anyway. Its better to have smaller gaming expos and show throughout the year instead of the stupid ass once a year bullshit that E3 was.

This is good news as far as I am concerned. :) :D
 
SailorDaravon said:
If they set up a smaller version I think that would be a huge improvement, but I would bet good money small fansites that are run by people that I see posting in this thread would NOT be able to get in, it'd only be for the big media (press and major websites like IGN, etc). The other downside is that it could be harder for smaller publishers to get in at all, or if they do get limited coverage.
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Yup. *sigh* sad but true.
 
CarlosX360 said:
Wow. you sure are picky.
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Ha! No I'm not. I had fun with a lot of games I played, but I couldn't get a good feel for any of them. The demos are either too short or too early to offer a good impression. Gitaroo Man Lives is a port of a game I really dig, so it was easy to see how the final game would turn up. I obviously have hope that Mario Galaxy and God of War 2 will be great, but, after seeing only a snippet of the games, I'm not exactly betting my life on it.
 
You know I agree with most of what is being said in the vein of this being a good thing, but at the same time this is kinda sad - feels like when I realized Christmas was just a materialistic sham, and that it would never be back again. OH WELL. Leipzig Games Convention FTW!!
 
Well, seems like Sony lost the final E3 then. What a sad thought :P

9 pages already? This topic is gonna implode when the official statement arrives tomorrow.
 
*Barf*

Anyone else just sorta feel this industry is kind of drifting apart from what it used to be? Sony's gone Blu-Ray crazy, Nintendo's gone crazy, and lets face it, Sega is well ... just gone pretty much, Microsoft is a good supporting guy but not a lead actor in any movie you'd want to see.

Now no more E3 shows? On top of no Spaceworld/Shoshinkai and maybe no TGS as well?

I miss the 1990s era. This industry is just starting to lose a lot of its fun and personality IMO.
 
White Man said:
I don't think it will have any realistic effect on the LA economy. I'm sure the convention center is in so much demand that the vacancy will be filled rather quickly. LA is used for things other than E3, you know :-P
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it isn't used that much actually, at least not in the scale of E3 taking over the entire complex. Most of the time bits and pieces get rented out. It is also used for movies a lot.
 
soundwave05 said:
*Barf*

Anyone else just sorta feel this industry is kind of drifting apart from what it used to be? Sony's gone Blu-Ray crazy, Nintendo's gone crazy, and lets face it, Sega is well ... just gone pretty much, Microsoft is a good supporting guy but not a lead actor in any movie you'd want to see.

Now no more E3 shows? On top of no Spaceworld/Shoshinkai and maybe no TGS as well?

I miss the 1990s era.
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This just in, it's not 1990 any more.
 
I've been suppressing my suspicion that an industry crash is on the horizon, and I'm not sure whether this news means good or bad.
 
Wow, that sucks. I mean if I worked in the industry I'd probably see some good in this, but I'm not, and this is just nothing but bad news to me
 
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