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[Klocker]

OMG8GBGDDR5 people freaking out about "comparable in power comment" 3...2...1...


get used to it folks... all of the power chest beating this week is going to be put to bed long before and certainly after the consoles (and BF4 which I can not wait for 1080p/60?) are released.


games will look and play the same, to most people

 

[ascii42]

That just doesn't make any sense to me.

1st party 360 games were actually only $50 for a short time before MS realized they could charge $60 like everyone else.

 

[baphomet]

What exactly did they say when comparing the power of the systems?

They said a nothing except for a generalized statement that next gen consoles are 8-10x current gen.

 

[Raide]

1080p@60fps is awesome but if they still stick to 24 odd players, then they are missing the point. I would rather have 1080p@30fps and get 64 players running around.

 

[Proelite]

They said a nothing except for a generalized statement that next gen consoles are 8-10x current gen.

If you average the consoles together then yeah.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

1080p@60fps is awesome but if they still stick to 24 odd players, then they are missing the point. I would rather have 1080p@30fps and get 64 players running around.

They're sticking to 64 players for next-gen. 24 for current-gen.

 

[thesuperfunk]

more hype ... battlefield 4 appears to be shaping up nicely!

 

[thuway]

If you average the consoles together then yeah.

Wahtchu trynna say?

 

[Raide]

They're sticking to 64 players for next-gen. 24 for current-gen.

Thank gawd!

 

[Astery]

can someone put the conf on youtube or something if possible? Can't deal with EA's registration. Or a complete summary? There's only bits and pieces I'm reading from everyone here.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

1st party 360 games were actually only $50 for a short time before MS realized they could charge $60 like everyone else.

Yup. Gears 1 was the first $60 first party game a year after launch.

 

[nelsonroyale]

OMG8GBGDDR5 people freaking out about "comparable in power comment" 3...2...1...


get used to it folks... all of the power! chest beating this week is going to be put to bed long before and certainly after the consoles (and BF4) are released.


games will look and play the same, to most people

Eh, from what we know now there will be differences, but not that big a deal. They are both a big leap from current gen, hence comparable.

 

[Reiko]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

 

[baphomet]

Wait...so BF4 confirmed to be 1080p/60FPS?

The only thing they said about battlefield 4 was that it looks amazing. Nothing was said about it being 1080p 60fps.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

Special Sauce.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

can someone put the conf on youtube or something if possible? Can't deal with EA's registration. Or a complete summary? There's only bits and pieces I'm reading from everyone here.

OP has the summary of all that's important.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

They said a nothing except for a generalized statement that next gen consoles are 8-10x current gen.

The comparable conclusion sounds a bit vague then. Microsoft's event will still be something to look forward to.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

DICE are better developers than anyone gives them credit for?

 

[Nirolak]

The only thing they said about battlefield 4 was that it looks amazing. Nothing was said about it being 1080p 60fps.

If I followed the thread correctly, the mentioned 1080p/60fps in conjunction with next-gen consoles, then talked about Battlefield 4, but yeah never officially tied them together.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if a game that's on 360/PS3 is 1080p/60fps on next-gen. Frostbite 2 is very hardware friendly to a setup like we see in next-gen.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

They'll demo it at 1080/60 but then inexplicably downgrade it.

 

[LightofRohan]

Pretty much confirmed, yes.

Oh. Nice!

It's funny though, every time I play a PC FPS on my TV I have to turn it down to 720 or else it gets a little hard to see. Hopefully they actually scale it correctly

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The only thing they said about battlefield 4 was that it looks amazing. Nothing was said about it being 1080p 60fps.

They stated that next-gen games are aimed at 1080p/60fps. I would believe that (when applying previously known info i.e. EA China leak) BF4 will be one of those game.

 

[Reiko]

DICE are better developers than anyone gives them credit for?

Well they did achieve parity with BF3 on consoles.

And Rallisport Challenge 2 still looks ridiculously good.

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

The current specs that we know for Durango and Orbis are still "comparable". That doesn't mean that they are neck and neck though.

True. The definition of comparable is highly subjective. Ps2 and Xbox were comparable to some.

 

[jmizzal]

[*]Theorized that initial launch prices for EA games could be $69.99 (if that is what the high end MSRP set by Sony/Microsoft is)
[/LIST]

What no thank you on that price EA

 

[OldJadedGamer]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

Since they are actually developing for it... just maybe.

 

[Kaako]

$70 price point consideration can go to hell, EA. Don't you dare.
The rest of the stuff mentioned was expected though. Looking forward to seeing BF4 in motion.

 

[baphomet]

If I followed the thread correctly, the mentioned 1080p/60fps in conjunction with next-gen consoles, then talked about Battlefield 4, but yeah never officially tied them together.

I didn't hear anything about 1080p 60fps during the conference at all. I may have missed, but I didn't hear it personally.

 

[BobTheFork]

OMG8GBGDDR5 people freaking out about "comparable in power comment" 3...2...1...


get used to it folks... all of the power chest beating this week is going to be put to bed long before and certainly after the consoles (and BF4 which I can not wait for 1080p/60?) are released.


games will look and play the same, to most people

Thank God you refuted thier arguments before they made them. Saves us all some time.

 

[shinobi602]

I didn't hear anything about 1080p 60fps during the conference at all. I may have missed, but I didn't hear it personally.

It was definitely mentioned.

 

[baphomet]

It was definitely mentioned.

My mistake then. I was wondering where all that was coming from. It must have been mentioned somewhat in passing if I didn't even catch it.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

So what happened..nothing?

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

DICE are better developers than anyone gives them credit for?

Or BF4 is not a true next gen game, cause it cross gen? Unlike KZ: SF, which sis developed with only PS4 in mind. I'm sure BF5 will be a much bigger improvement over BF3 visually, and will probably go back down to 30fps on consoles.

 

[nib95]

Bare in mind people, if as in the audio they stated, they've been working on next gen titles for a year, it means they'd have had 12gb ddr3 to use with Next box (assuming 8gb final) and 2.2gb gddr5 (assuming 2gb final) with Orbis. That's partly why I fully expect the Nextbox to have better looking games at the first few reveals.

 

[pswii60]

If they are able to get BF4 to run at 1080p and 60fps on both console then they deserve a medal.



I think the accepted theory is that they are not neck and neck, but there are a couple of people on this forum who think that we could be getting a situition where games are running 60fps on the PS4 and 30fps on Durango.

So, like PS2 compared to Xbox perhaps.

Bare in mind people, if as in the audio they stated, they've been working on next gen titles for a year, it means they'd have had 12gb ddr3 to use with Next box (assuming 8gb final) and 2.2gb gddr5 (assuming 2gb final) with Orbis. That's partly why I fully expect the Nextbox to have better looking games at the first few reveals.

Now that's what I call premature damage control.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

So what happened..nothing?

I think investors were surprised that EA was missing from PS4's announcement, so they had this silly phone conference to do damage control.

[/personal_opinion]

 

[Osiris]

Bare in mind people, if as in the audio they stated, they've been working on next gen titles for a year, it means they'd have had 12gb ddr3 to use with Next box (assuming 8gb final) and 2.2gb gddr5 (assuming 2gb final) with Orbis. That's partly why I fully expect the Nextbox to have better looking games at the first few reveals.

2Gb final for Ps4? - Is there supposed to be some humor I'm missing there? - Because it's absent.

 

[Galacticos]

I find it amazing how publishers are waiting for Microsoft to unveil the new Xbox.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I think investors were surprised that EA was missing from PS4's announcement, so they had this silly phone conference to do damage control.

[/personal_opinion]

Oh..meh..EA should show next gen madden Im waiting so patiently.

 

[shinobi602]

So what happened..nothing?

I tried to summarize the conference as best I could in the OP.

 

[Reiko]

I find it amazing how publishers are waiting for Microsoft to unveil the new Xbox.

Gamers are too. It's been too long of a over-stretched gen already.

 

[nib95]

So, like PS2 compared to Xbox perhaps.

Now that's what I call premature damage control.

Not damage control, straight facts. Only in January of this year did PS4 Dev kits have 4gb gddr5. None have 8gb of GDDR5 as far as I am aware, though naturally they eventually will.

2Gb final for Ps4? - Is there supposed to be some humor I'm missing there? - Because it's absent.

No humour. Original ps4 Dev kits up until just a couple of months ago had just 2.2gb of vram. The implication being that the final retail kit would have around that. Obviously devs can't create games for 8gb vram when they only have 2.2gb to work with. With respect to the new 4gb gddr5 kits, not all devs even have them. Presumably some will likely jump straight to the 8gb GDDR5 or more (having more than retail is normal in dev kits due to needing extra for debugging).

 

[Ploid 3.0]

2Gb final for Ps4? - Is there supposed to be some humor I'm missing there? - Because it's absent.

He's talking about what the Developers was focusing on before the PS4 event. So their games on display could have been developed with 2gb in mind, thinking that 2gb was final.

 

[gillFTR]

Are there any rumours that BF4 will be 64 players on the next gen consoles?

 

[DaBoss]

Wow this is good news.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Are there any rumours that BF4 will be 64 players on the next gen consoles?

Yes. EA China leak. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=498308

 

[jmro]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

Of course they do. They're developing on it.

 

[Steverulez]

I find it amazing how publishers are waiting for Microsoft to unveil the new Xbox.

Makes it easier to show new IPs.. Company X "Hey guys! This fantastic new IP is coming! On PS4... and err" Journos "So is it exclusive to PS4 or coming to Durango as well" Company X "Well hmm, eeerr well wait and see!"

I think companies just want to be able to announce all their new games on all platforms at the same time.

Not to mention Microsoft will want to show off some of the new titles at their conference ala Deep Down.

 

[shinobi602]

Are there any rumours that BF4 will be 64 players on the next gen consoles?

Yes. There was a leak.

And PS4/Durango are more than powerful enough to support 64 players.

EDIT: Beaten.

 

[Galacticos]

Gamers are too.

Im talking about game announcements.
Publishers refuse to announce new games, they're waiting for microsoft to make their move.

Makes it easier to show new IPs.. Company X "Hey guys! This fantastic new IP is coming! On PS4... and err" Journos "So is it exclusive to PS4 or coming to Durango as well" Company X "Well hmm, eeerr well wait and see!"

I think companies just want to be able to announce all their new games on all platforms at the same time.

Not to mention Microsoft will want to show off some of the new titles at their conference ala Deep Down.

Watch Dogs? Destiny?