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[OrangeJulius]

Hmm they haven't had to close any studios or fire a ton of people and considering they just launched a major platform... not too bad.

Again, tell their shareholders that.

 

[Coolwhip]

I knew it.

An angry EA employee might not be the best source.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

It's more along the lines of Nintendo not creating competitive hardware and services that suit the business needs of third parties. To assume these companies have petty vendettas against Nintendo when they themselves are struggling to survive is silly. It's about making money and remaining viable. It's not about settling a score.

Its almost like the big publisher AAA model is somehow broken, but the big AAA publishers refuse to change or adapt their strategies to succeed, and instead just throw excuses and blame at everyone and everything except their own decisions.

you know, like telling investors medal of honour was awesome and it was only stupid critics and idiot consumers that didn't realise that that meant it failed.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I knew it.

Dude just came right out and said it too.

 

[GoddyofAus]

Angry Nintendo fans are unbelievable man.

 

[cyberheater]

Did you buy a Wii U so that you could get angry? I don't remember positivity from you in the threads pre-launch.

I've bought every single Nintendo console since SNES. I was hoping that WiiU would be different. Nintendo promised us it would be different.

SNES and N64 have been my most favourite consoles. I'd hope that WiiU would be the same.

 

[Meelow]

I'm almost inclined to agree with him about Nintendo going third party at this point. At least in terms of home consoles.

Continue to offer handhelds, as there is still money to be made there, but the U has already shown they're gonna have some problems making money on home consoles going forward.


Microsoft or Sony would offer them an absolute sweetheart deal to have a Mario or Zelda game, and it would be a nice boost for either console.

No.

If Nintendo stopped making home consoles they already said they would quit the gaming industry, and if they didn't they would 100% focus on 3DS.

I'm tired of all this "Nintendo should go third party"

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

True enough, but it's the same 30% everything takes for digital distribution, so it's effectively free.

PSN, XBL and eShop are also "effectively free" then?

 

[Curufinwe]

Well I certainly prefer this to PR speak. He is blunt but I don't think he should loose his job or anything.

Lose his job, not loose his job.

 

[entremet]

https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill


This guy is apparently a Senior Software Engineer and Architect at Electronic Arts. Even more at the link.

Here are some more:

So you just searched for people critical of the Wii U who happen to be in the industry lol.

 

[SmokyDave]

The saddest part of the modern games industry is how many people think that graphical capabilities == system quality. God forbid a company try something new instead of pumping out a third identical CoD machine. It's like everyone wants complete and utter parity amongst everything.

People expect parity?!

My god. When will they learn to settle for less, eh?

 

[Erimriv]

Oh boy, 50+ pages thread. BTW, the guy is right.

 

[SMT]

He confirmed the all the specifications you need, any more questions? Now you know the truth behind all this, embrace.

Someone else is speaking out, and doth not want to have the WiiU's hand in marriage with the gaming industry.

 

[Beetleking11]

How 5 month old console can be this doomed people???... so early people.. so fucking early to judge this console... Damn people please understand Iwata.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Wii U owners should boycott EA games until they issue an apology.

Amazing.

This thread is going to be a graveyard so I'm just going to observe.

 

[Zoramon089]

Again, tell their shareholders that.

I'm pretty sure they were told, and their decision was to change their board and give Iwata more responsibilities so I'm not sure where you were going with this...

 

[StuBurns]

He's entitled to his opinion, but it's very strange that someone so high up in a gaming company would be so *honest* in such a public way. When was the last time you saw a Pepsi executive ranting about Coke?

Coke is rad.

 

[JABEE]

I'm really looking forward to these next few weeks. From the Xbox announcement to E3. It's going to be fun around here. Wonder what Nintendo will show over the next few weeks.

 

[Into]

Well people were complaining in previous EA/Nintendo threads that EA was being too "PR" with the entire "we would love to explore maybe future titles on the Wii U" etc and should just come out and be blunt about it.

You got what you wanted, tough not official EA response it is more than likely the company line.

Been somewhat of a harsh day for Nintendo, but the industry and especially media will soon lose interest come E3 and focus will be on PS4 and 720, for better or worse.

Regardless to it being less powerful than 360, i do not know, but who am i to question someone who is apparently the "Senior Software Engineer and Architect at Electronic Arts". Doubt anyone here really is, maybe a few who actually are developers and could shed some light.

 

[Kurdel]

The saddest part of the modern games industry is how many people think that graphical capabilities == system quality. God forbid a company try something new instead of pumping out a third identical CoD machine. It's like everyone wants complete and utter parity amongst everything.

It's the same concept they have been attempting to push since GBA connectvity and they were proud to have CoD on the Wii U when it launched.

 

[liger05]

Again, tell their shareholders that.

Everyone assumed the shareholders would give Iwata a grilling and possibly call for changes last month. Rightly or wrongly it didnt happen.

 

[Schnozberry]

Its almost like the big publisher AAA model is somehow broken, but the big AAA publishers refuse to change or adapt their strategies to succeed, and instead just throw excuses and blame at everyone and everything except their own decisions.

you know, like telling investors medal of honour was awesome and it was only stupid critics and idiot consumers that didn't realise that that meant it failed.

It's actually both things. Nintendo botched the Wii U Launch and software lineup, and the AAA model is broken. One of those things is easier to fix than the other.

 

[eighty(one)]

Holy cow!

He just laid it all out there :0/

 

[cyberheater]

I knew it.

I didn't. I knew it wasn't going to much more powerful then PS360. But I'm having a hard time believing it's less power then a 360.

 

[SmokedMeat]

I don't see why this guy should be punished for making a comment on his personal Twitter account. I wouldn't have even known he worked for EA.

 

[Draconian]

Continue to offer handhelds, as there is still money to be made there, but the U has already shown they're gonna have some problems making money on home consoles going forward.

I guess Sony should've gone third party after many years of virtually bleeding money on the PS3 then, right?

 

[Animator]

This is the most flawless first reply possible. *golfclap

 

[Shalashaska161]

Why anyone would ever talk about anything remotely work related on Twitter will forever remain a mystery to me. Nothing good ever comes of it.

 

[onipex]

Harsh and dumb.

The Wii U isn't worse techwise than a 360 and this manbaby should ask Ubisoft how much money they made on the Wii.

It's like 3rd party developers that failed on the Wii are bitter because Nintendo was making truckloads of money.

I think that is kind of true. This guy must not know that for a while Tiger Woods was selling best on the Wii and EA Sports Active also sold well.

 

[Delio]

No.

If Nintendo stopped making home consoles they already said they would quit the gaming industry, and if they didn't they would 100% focus on 3DS.

I'm tired of all this "Nintendo should go third party"

I think it's just more likely they would go totally 3DS/Handheld only if it ever came to that point. I'd miss the console stuff but there you go.

 

[Lambda Pie]

hope the money they save from ditching the Wii U goes into the EA UFC game.

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

You don't. Their current circumstances are due to their own lack of vision in their hardware design. They designed a machine for Japan instead of designing one that would be appealing to audiences world wide.

Why do people keep peddling this myth that a "powerful" Nintendo console wouldn't be doomed to 3rd place? The last time they tried that strategy they had to pay EA to make games for the platform, & that clearly isn't an option.

 

[FonkyByNature]

We're at page 9. I say 50 at least.

What is it these days and the EA negativity towards Nintendo, the two are in a real war.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

Wow, nuked by EA.

 

[ironcreed]

Nintendo is being absolutely roasted over the unraveling Wii U debacle. But hey, the truth hurts sometimes.

 

[onQ123]

I'll just repost what I said in the Battlefield 4 skipping Wii U thread.


"If ever there was a good time to use the term getting Dreamcasted I think the Wii U is it.

I also wonder if it also have a lot to do with 3rd party companies not liking the competition from 1st party games."

 

[OrangeJulius]

I'm pretty sure they were told, and their decision was to change their board and give Iwata more responsibilities so I'm not sure where you were going with this...

I don't recall talking to you. Someone implied that EA and other 3rd parties are failing left and right and Nintendo is raking in the dough. I implied that is false....and it is.

 

[VariantX]

The saddest part of the modern games industry is how many people think that graphical capabilities == system quality. God forbid a company try something new instead of pumping out a third identical CoD machine. It's like everyone wants complete and utter parity amongst everything.

Parity is needed at this point due to the cost of developing games. The differences need to be in the services provided by the console manufacturer like xbl, psn, or nin.

 

[NotLiquid]

Can't say I understand the sentiment about this "honesty" being a good thing. Burning bridges is never a good thing, especially when you work for a company that will go wherever the money is at. While Wii U is not that right now, as a company you should always be ready for a shift if the needs call for it.

This industry arrogance isn't refreshing, we see it all the time. If you ask me, I'd say it's getting frustrating.

 

[Sandfox]

I've bought every single Nintendo console since SNES. I was hoping that WiiU would be different. Nintendo promised us it would be different.

SNES and N64 have been my most favourite consoles. I'd hope that WiiU would be the same.

The Wii U will probably get better support than the N64(excluding sports titles obviously) lol.

 

[Kunan]

This might be the best first reply I've seen on gaming side ever! I'm in tears LOL

 

[Duster]

Amongst who? Nintendo fans they no longer support? It's not a big deal given the situation.

It may not seem it around there parts but is theoretically possible to be a fan of Nintendo and EA.There must people that play EA games on a Sony/Microsoft console while owning a WiiU.
There's no need to annoy those customers.

It may not be the biggest issue but I bet EA's PR department aren't happy at having to clear up yet another mess.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Why the fuck do people keep calling next gen "gen 4."

Just because it's Playstation 4, does not mean it is "gen 4."

most people have blindspots when it comes to something they are passionate about

 

[FroJay]

Is he wrong though?

 

[illadelph]

EA Sports is just salty because Mario & Sonic at whatever Olympic games will be sports game of the year

 

[Baconsammy]

Its almost like the big publisher AAA model is somehow broken, but the big AAA publishers refuse to change or adapt their strategies to succeed, and instead just throw excuses and blame at everyone and everything except their own decisions.

you know, like telling investors medal of honour was awesome and it was only stupid critics and idiot consumers that didn't realise that that meant it failed.

Which Wii U strategy should EA be adapting to? They're not blaming everyone else. They're not even blaming Nintendo. They're just letting people know why they're not currently interested in that platform. As are many other third parties. Nintendo doesn't have the clout, the expertise, or the resources to encourage third parties to adapt to their strategies.

 

[Foffy]

The saddest part of the modern games industry is how many people think that graphical capabilities == system quality. God forbid a company try something new instead of pumping out a third identical CoD machine. It's like everyone wants complete and utter parity amongst everything.

Everything in one device, because anything else is bronze age technology! I do agree the concept is pretty dull, but the Wii U does indeed have some baffling design choices.

Reminds me, Chris Hecker was actually at EA's Maxis when he made the classic duct tape comments.


he compared the Wii to an anorexic and malnourished man. At the end Hecker had two demands of Nintendo: "Recognize and push games as a serious art form" and "Make a console that doesn't suck ass!"

It's almost like a time warp of 6 years.

Serious art form? From someone at EA? That's the joke here, right..?

 

[jett]

 

[B.O.O.M]

I'm pretty sure they were told, and their decision was to change their board and give Iwata more responsibilities so I'm not sure where you were going with this...

Don't think that's a shareholder choice per se

 

[krae_man]

I don't see why this guy should be punished for making a comment on his personal Twitter account. I wouldn't have even known he worked for EA.

Well his twitter profile says he does.

But seriously hopefully all the video game websites/blogs will decide enough is enough with these "random guy said X on twitter" news stories and not run it. Oh who am I kidding, of course they are going to run with it.