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Engadget: Xbox is poised to dominate the next console generation
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LuvOfThaGame
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I have a question to the hardcore Sony fans that love to infect every MS thread. Can any of you post hours/days played on a playstation 4 1st party game more than an xboxone 1st party game? I think that's a big advantage people overlook with xbox. Replayability. I've got 45 days played in Gears 4 and it's not even close to the 6000+ hours that tops my leaderboard. It seems the most played game online for hardcore Sony fans are xbox threads. Lol.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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Would you count time played on PSVR? I'll let you count Kinect...
LuvOfThaGame
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Any 1st party GAME. Not peripheral.
demigod
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That happens when you have no other exclusive to play.
The Mad Draklor
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Attack the arguments, not the people making the arguments.I have a question to the hardcore Sony fans that love to infect every MS thread. Can any of you post hours/days played on a playstation 4 1st party game more than an xboxone 1st party game? I think that's a big advantage people overlook with xbox. Replayability. I've got 45 days played in Gears 4 and it's not even close to the 6000+ hours that tops my leaderboard. It seems the most played game online for hardcore Sony fans are xbox threads. Lol.
LuvOfThaGame
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Plenty of 1st party games to play. Im just curious if anyone actually puts alot of time into these ps games this gen that seem to always dictate the arguments against xbox success.
LuvOfThaGame
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I am. I made my point clear. I made a joke as well, but look at my previous post for motive. I stated it in my original post as well. Replayability verses quantity.
bitbydeath
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The good thing about PS exclusives is that there are so many that you don't need to spend a lot of your time on just one game while you wait for another to arrive.
DForce
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I have a question to the hardcore Sony fans that love to infect every MS thread. Can any of you post hours/days played on a playstation 4 1st party game more than an xboxone 1st party game? I think that's a big advantage people overlook with xbox. Replayability. I've got 45 days played in Gears 4 and it's not even close to the 6000+ hours that tops my leaderboard. It seems the most played game online for hardcore Sony fans are xbox threads. Lol.
Like it or not, this thread is about Xbox taking over Playstation next gen, which in fact Playstation related.
And replayability?
I guess you missed that Uncharted 4, Last of Us, MLB The Show, Street Fighter V, GT Sport are all online.
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LuvOfThaGame
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So many that it's worth 60$ for a ~10-15 hour one-off? I disagree. PS does have more 1st party games, but it's not an every month since launch plentiful and an extremely exaggerated claim, IMO. This is where replayability of games like Forza, Halo, Gears, SoT, ect come in. They are games that you get great value from long term play time. The same is just not true for Sony games, though they have a great line up of SP games, but are mostly one and done experiences.
LuvOfThaGame
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That's why my discussion is centered around just that.
DunDunDunpachi
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The insecurity in this thread is amusing.
Xbox fans already have major publications shilling for their brand (which is what the OP is about). Who cares what a bunch of forum nerds say? You've already made it. Xbox doesn't need anyone to stand up for it.
Xbox fans already have major publications shilling for their brand (which is what the OP is about). Who cares what a bunch of forum nerds say? You've already made it. Xbox doesn't need anyone to stand up for it.
FacelessSamurai
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Dont personally attack peopel and dont enter threads and say you didnt read otherwise dont post..
I didn't feel like reading the whole thread considering how full of crap the first few posts were already (thank you sonyGAF), but this is the most ignorant shit I've read in a while. You sir, are the epitome of stupidity.
bitbydeath
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I still haven't had time to play Spider-man yet and Days Gone is just around the corner.
They don't arrive every month but they are well spaced out enough that by the time I complete one another is either out already if not coming just around the corner.
A better comparison would be all PS exclusives vs all Xbox exclusives in a single gen for playtime.
They don't arrive every month but they are well spaced out enough that by the time I complete one another is either out already if not coming just around the corner.
A better comparison would be all PS exclusives vs all Xbox exclusives in a single gen for playtime.
cryptoadam
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Well thanks for being so offensive.
Whats so stupid about it? MS are the ones touting the xCloud. They already have their games on PC. If gamepass and xCloud take off then why produce expensive money losing hardware, especially since MS has not won 1 hardware generation yet.
Makes more business sense to focus on cloud gaming and netflix type service where you can get monthly subscribtion income rolling every month. Instead of speding millions in R&D to create a box that you won't make a profit on for probably 2 to 3 years anyways.
I aint saying MS is getting out of gaming, just that they will switch their focus away from hardware and towards a more service orientated business model.
Jigsaah
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MYSTICAL NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! I love your Avatar!
zackmorris
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Good, I hope its true. Last gen was the only time I was compelled to own both a Playstation and an X box console with the PS3 and 360 and it was great. From Halo 3 and Gears 1-3 on the 360 to Infamous, Uncharted and TLOU on the PS3 there was a legit reason to own both consoles. Plus with the different hardware it was worth it to get the best console version of a game. I hope Sony and Microsoft both knock it out of the park next-gen. Its best for everyone, despite what the console warriors will make you believe.
I just hope neither company puts all their eggs in the "most powerful console" basket. Give me great game support and unique features. My only concern is with Microsoft releasing their exclusive games on PC, the console would have to have a really cool feature set to make me want to go out and spend money on a console when I can already play the games on the PC hardware I have.
I just hope neither company puts all their eggs in the "most powerful console" basket. Give me great game support and unique features. My only concern is with Microsoft releasing their exclusive games on PC, the console would have to have a really cool feature set to make me want to go out and spend money on a console when I can already play the games on the PC hardware I have.
LuvOfThaGame
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So xbox fans shouldn't make their own points about the article and discussion? Only negative comments should be given? That's...an interesting take.
DForce
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Again, you're being dishonest.
MLB The Show, GT Sport, Uncharted 4, The Last of Us, Killzone Shadow Fall.
Last of Us Part II, Death Stranding are also expected to have multiplayer, along side another installment of MLB The Show.
Jigsaah
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True, and I didn't say they weren't experienced, I said they are the baby of the 3....which is true in terms of their own console, just liek Sony and Nintendo have their own console. Of the big 3, Xbox is the youngest and I guess it's up to the perception of the audience to decide how to interpret. As one of many members of that audience, that's how I view it. Sony and Nintendo are established Icons of the industry. I don't think Xbox is quite there yet.
zackmorris
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Which is why MS went out and acquired studios and by all accounts are still planning on more. At this point why would MS rush games to the market and release them on the Xbox one when they could let devs take their time and drop them next gen?
DunDunDunpachi
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Putting words into other people's mouths is an interesting take.
Don't be a crybaby bitch when your favorite hunk of plastic receives criticism. Should the infectious "hardcore Sony fans" not make their own points about the article and discussion? You're violating your own point.
zackmorris
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I disagree. I don't think Halo is the franchise that will save a console at this point. Same with Gears. I loved Halo 1-3 and ODST, but I grew tired of it. Im not saying I wouldn't be interested in a cool new Halo, but I don't think that title is going to suck new users in a significant way. If they think they can drop Master Chief into an open world and expect people to jump ship from playstation for it, I think they are mistaken. Just like I don't want Uncharted 5 at this point. I want big new tent-pole franchises.
I think the most interested I would be in a new Halo would be something similar to what Sony did with God of War.
LuvOfThaGame
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Never said they couldn't. Just an observation. No need to get hostile. You said "xbox doesn't need anyone to stand up for it." So, what does that mean then?
LuvOfThaGame
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MLB is not a 1st party game. Those games have MP, sure, but are they really competing with the likes of Forza, Gears, and Halo MP? It's not really even close, IMO.
DunDunDunpachi
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It means Xbox doesn't need anyone to stand up for it. Journalists have already accepted that role, as is evidenced by the OP.
DForce
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MLB The Show IS first party (developed by Sony Studio).
The Last of Us and Uncharted 4 are still active online, so is GT Sport. You can't find ways to discredit these games because they're not on your preferred platform. Fact is, they have multiplayer games which people like.
LuvOfThaGame
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That's strong hyperbole. Gaming journalists make plenty of PS articles discussing their success. Should posters not reply to those making negative comments in those threads either? Seems silly to me. Sounds like you are saying exactly what I interpreted above.
zackmorris
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That's completely subjective and a strange argument. Fortnite is endlessly replayable and since it's free the value is unbeatable. It's still not something that interests me. I think the days of games needing a multiplayer component to sell are behind us. In the 360/PS3 era every game that came out had some weird tacked on MP component because thats what was popular at the time. Now, Im not so sure that's what most people are looking for.
DunDunDunpachi
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That's not what I said, but if you have specific examples feel free to jump into those thread and tell hyperbolic posters to stop standing up for Sony's mistakes.
Power of the Cloud = clairvoyance.
LuvOfThaGame
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if so, then my mistake. Could've sworn it was a 2k game.
It's not that I am discrediting their MP just on the basis of platform, I asked if they provide as much replayability as MS top MP games. I don't believe they do and no one has provided anything to show against.
DForce
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That's not what you originally posted. You talk about Xbox having a huge advantage due to replayability and PS games being mostly a "one and done" experience.
This was in fact proven wrong.
LuvOfThaGame
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I agree that tacked on MP is not what most are looking for. Most of MS top IPs are centered around a great MP experience and are not just tacked on though. I would say PS takes the opposite approach. SP first with tacked on MP on most of their top IPs for this gen. This is where revenue comes in and absolutely matters. The more people play a game, the more revenue available past the usual $60 game cost. Halo, Gears, and Forza alone allow MS to make an incredible amount of revenue that keeps communities involved for the long term. Hell, Gears 4 is still having holiday events, new skins, and game modes 26 months past launch, as well as a healthy esport presence. I think this gets overlooked in the discussion with 1st player games.
LuvOfThaGame
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And posted my numbers as well as references to top players on my friends list. I was not proven wrong as no one has posted a challenge to that statement. Replayability, longevity, and community engagement for added revenue is very important for developers long term success.
DForce
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No, you were. The problem is that PS4 doesn't track how long you played these games. As far as My Playstation life, well, it's not even working.
Your players are your references only and it not considered proof because each player is different. You're simply just adding irreverent factors to prove a point when you were discussing replayability. The games mentioned all have replay value and there's nothing you can say or do to minimize that.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
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Man, those rays of light covering all the nudity will look amazing on the PS5! Best Puritan Rays ever!
TwiztidElf
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At best, they can close the gap and be competitive again. They seem to be making all the right moves.
That brand damage this gen though.....phew! It blew away all the OG/early360 progress.
That brand damage this gen though.....phew! It blew away all the OG/early360 progress.
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Don't be daft, the original Wii was the contemporary of the 360 and PS3, it just won by such a margin that it had time to die, and spawn an unsuccessful follow-up before Switch hit the market!
Which if nothing else is a sterling example of despite how changeable fortunes are in this business, content is king. And winners tend to stay winning.
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CrustyBritches
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Halo is Xbox's most important game. Without it, there is no Xbox, so all this "poised to dominate" talk without a competent version of the game that defines Xbox is nonsense.
As an avid Xbox fan, I'm really looking forward to the exclusive games MS's new studios will make. At this point, we haven't seen them, and don't know what they even are, so I'm keeping realistic expectations until then.
LuvOfThaGame
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I simply asked if anyone here could beat those numbers with a PS4 1st party game. More about curiosity, but I do believe there are alot more people playing xbox games than ps games in the long term, and spending money on these games. You can't deny that Sony has been a Sp game first with tacked on MP this generation. It works great for them. But let's not be facetious and deny that Sony does not compare to MS MP games that further extend their replayability. Uncharted/TLOU MP =/= Gears. Killzone MP =/= Halo. It's not even close. At the same time, MS SP offering =/= Sonys.
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I said goddaaaaaaaayuuuuum!
DForce
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It's just more goalpost moving. First you wanted to see how many hours people spent on Sony's MP games, and now you want you want talk about revenue, further extending MP ect. Sony added content online to both Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us, which makes it irreverent. What matters is if it has replayability.
Uncharted series had multiplayer for awhile. Last of Us is far more competitive, harder than a lot of the casual shooters you see on the market today because it relies heavily on stealth. I know you're trying to downplay it, but it's not going to work. Last of Us is also considered a underrated multiplayer.
Elenchus
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All Sony has are a few copy and paste single player third person action games that aren't nearly as difficult to duplicate as GAF thinks. MS is in a very strong position right now all things considered.
LuvOfThaGame
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My original statement was a jumping off point, but if you want to focus directly on the original challenge, show me someone in Uncharted, TLOU, or killzone on ps4 with high playing hours like that on MP.
Looking at MLG official games list, Sony doesn't have a single game listed. MS has Gears and Halo. MP games on PS are just not in the same league as MS. The opposite is true when discussing SP games, but SP focused games seem to be the only narrative that some want to discuss.
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VAL0R
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I think her analysis was pretty spot on. Microsoft is now, and only now, really starting to flex their muscles. All the signs show that the financial juggernaut is all-in and preparing for war in 2019-2020. I mean, they just bought seven (seven!) development houses and rumor has it they are not done shopping yet! That's an enormous investment in first party, almost certainly unmatched in console history. Anyone who thinks this is the old MS, of even Xbox 360 vintage, is very mistaken. MS will make the most powerful console again in Scarlett and I would be very surprised if they aren't even willing to bleed cash just to win/match on price point with better hardware. They will bleed on hardware to win with Game Pass subs. Next-gen is going to be awesome.
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