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[Xenon]

It has nothing to do with bothering me.. After reading enough articles about Astroturfers though, some of it is very suspect.

I'll admit, I'm a little put off by Phil Spencer's constant talk-but-no-follow-through attitude, and it sure seems like it's rubbing off onto media outlets and forums. I honestly hope that Xbox comes out swinging next gen with GAMES instead of promises and talk. I haven't been a fan of a ton of Sony decisions lately and am, at this point, a 90% PC gamer. I am not even sure that I'll buy the next round of consoles.

All I'm saying is that this feels like the videogame equivalent of Tim Tebow, if that makes sense.

i guess that would be true if Tebow put a out an amazing mid gen console that played 3 generations of games enhanced in 4k and bought 5 studios. it's not about where they are at the moment it's what they're poised to be in two years when the systems are released. Right now that's looking pretty freaking good.


Edit: Let's be honest here Sony's success has a lot to do what Microsoft did wrong this gen. That is not happening again.

 

[DForce]

My original statement was a jumping off point, but if you want to focus directly on the original challenge, show me someone in Uncharted, TLOU, or killzone on ps4 with high playing hours like that on MP.
Looking at MLG official games list, Sony doesn't have a single game listed. MS has Gears and Halo.

I already stated that PS4 doesn't track hours played.

And you're bringing up MLG? Dude, come on. lol. I might as well bring up that Uncharted 4 had several tournaments. Let's not forget that these games have a much smaller competitive scene than the major games such as Call of Duty, Counter Strike, Fortnite etc. so you're just looking for ways to downplay the fact that these games have replayability.


The majority of these games are played by casuals, not the competitive players. If I can go on The Last of Us and see a person with a level of 999, then I know that person has been playing the game for a long time.

 

[demigod]

All Sony has are a few copy and paste single player third person action games that aren't nearly as difficult to duplicate as GAF thinks. MS is in a very strong position right now all things considered.

What games have you made?

 

[DeepEnigma]

All Sony has are a few copy and paste single player third person action games that aren't nearly as difficult to duplicate as GAF thinks. MS is in a very strong position right now all things considered.

So what is MS's excuse then this whole gen, if these games are not as "difficult"?

Some of the shit I read man, I swear.

 

[Afro Republican]

Don't be daft, the original Wii was the contemporary of the 360 and PS3, it just won by such a margin that it had time to die, and spawn an unsuccessful follow-up before Switch hit the market!

Which if nothing else is a sterling example of despite how changeable fortunes are in this business, content is king. And winners tend to stay winning.

Your post doesn't work in the context of what you said before.

Or how about the winner of the previous generation coming up fast on everyone's heels with their own unique offering?

You're clearly referring tot he Switch here. A next gen console (not current)

You can't just skip the Wii U and go right to the switch just to save your argument, it doesn't work.

 

[demigod]

So what is MS's excuse then this whole gen, if these games are not as "difficult"?

Some of the shit I read man, I swear.

Dude, they have Sea of Thieves MANG!!! That game took YEARS to do, imagine the difficulty, don't hate.

 

[MayauMiao]

All Sony has are a few copy and paste single player third person action games that aren't nearly as difficult to duplicate as GAF thinks. MS is in a very strong position right now all things considered.

If it isn't that difficult to duplicate then why aren't we are seeing more of such titles from Microsoft? Surely with the money they have churning out new IP titles that rivals TLoU, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc. should not be a problem.

 

[Elcid]

Wonder how much Microsoft paid for this article!

 

[DForce]

All Sony has are a few copy and paste single player third person action games that aren't nearly as difficult to duplicate as GAF thinks. MS is in a very strong position right now all things considered.

Ryse, Quantum Break and ReCore were major hits..

Oh wait...

 

[Jigsaah]

So what is MS's excuse then this whole gen, if these games are not as "difficult"?

Some of the shit I read man, I swear.

Chiming in. Microsoft's "excuse" comes from a problem with their priorities. Prior to Phil Spencer, Xbox was seen as little more than a novelty part of the Microsoft conglomerate. This cause a bottleneck in terms of funding for different projects. Even when Phil first got in the spotlight as the spokesman for Xbox, he was still faced with budget issues. Microsoft was not investing heavily into 1st party games. You had your mainstays like Halo, Gears and Forza, horizon, halo wars, etc...and then a couple of indie's here and there. New IP's were often seen as a risk and they were not gun shy to pull the trigger, cancelling anything that didn't pan out. Phantom Dust, though not a new IP, was a prime example of this. People may mention Scalebound, but fact this game died on the shoulders of Platinum Games, not Microsoft. Phantom Dust's development was throttled by Microsoft while at the same time demanding too much from the developer who decided to try and do the reboot. I'm not completely clear of the numbers but they gave them like 5-10 million to make this AAA quality E-sports version of the cult classic game with a 30 hour campaign. I won't go into all the details but the overall theme is that Microsoft wasn't prioritizing gaming like they are now. Phil is now head of Xbox, recently promoted within the last year and the budget floodgates are wide open as the studio acquisition would signify.

If that doesn't clarify it then I guess the other answer is...Microsoft simply doesn't want to do cookie cutter franchises. They have their main 3 and I believe because of the kinds of studios their buying, we might very well see a diversity of genres coming out of Microsoft's first party next gen.

 

[Clear]

You can't just skip the Wii U and go right to the switch just to save your argument, it doesn't work.

This is just feeble. Here are the facts:

Generation 7 = Xbox 360 (11/05), PS3 (11/06), Wii (11/06).

Generation 8 = Wii U (11/12), Xbox One (11/13), PS4 (11/13), Switch (3/17)

Current gen is 8, hence previous gen is 7, ergo Nintendo came out top of that generation, as I stated.

Wii U was the first 8th gen system by a year, the exact same lead time as 360 over PS3 and Wii, so if you want to be obtuse about it you might as well be consistent and relegate 360 to gen 6!

See generations are chronological markers, not product counts. Its why 360 is considered a gen 7 device even though it was only contested by MS second console and Sony's third.

Nintendo have released 2 8th gen systems, the first one failed, but the second has turned into the fastest-selling console of its gen. In time it may turn out to be the best selling overall, but that's for the future to tell as its been on the market less long than its contemporaries.

 

[baphomet]

Anyone writing articles like this with literally 0 concrete next gen info is on the take. Just being paid to write this shit to try and get mindshare for Microsoft.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

This is just feeble. Here are the facts:

Generation 7 = Xbox 360 (11/05), PS3 (11/06), Wii (11/06).

Generation 8 = Wii U (11/12), Xbox One (11/13), PS4 (11/13), Switch (3/17)

Current gen is 8, hence previous gen is 7, ergo Nintendo came out top of that generation, as I stated.

Wii U was the first 8th gen system by a year, the exact same lead time as 360 over PS3 and Wii, so if you want to be obtuse about it you might as well be consistent and relegate 360 to gen 6!

See generations are chronological markers, not product counts. Its why 360 is considered a gen 7 device even though it was only contested by MS second console and Sony's third.

Nintendo have released 2 8th gen systems, the first one failed, but the second has turned into the fastest-selling console of its gen. In time it may turn out to be the best selling overall, but that's for the future to tell as its been on the market less long than its contemporaries.

Nah, it's a 9th gen console. It will directly compete with whatever Sony and Microsoft put out next. It also launched 5 years after the Wii U* which is a fairly established generational cycle.

Unless you think Dreamcast was a contemporary of the PS1 and N64 and Saturn.

*EDIT: sorry, Wii U, not Wii.

 

[Clear]

Nah, it's a 9th gen console. It will directly compete with whatever Sony and Microsoft put out next. It also launched 5 years after the Wii U* which is a fairly established generational cycle.

Unless you think Dreamcast was a contemporary of the PS1 and N64 and Saturn.

*EDIT: sorry, Wii U, not Wii.

Nope. Dreamcast was gen 6 (11/98) along with PS2 (3/00) and Xbox (11/01)

For Switch to be considered 9th means you are pushing the start of generation a mininum of 21 months ahead of the rest of the field, and that's assuming that PS5 and Xbox 2 launched tomorrow! The reality is that the earliest likely actual launch is 11/19 with most people expecting it another 6-12 months after that sometime in 2020.

By which point we'll be looking at 2.5 to 3.5 years before it has any competition in the 9th generation, how does that make sense when the Wii U was discontinued a mere 4 years 2 months from launch? Ironically that too is a longer time span than the original Xbox had on the market before being succeeded by the 360.

Bottom line, you can't have a generation that isn't contested by all relevant parties, which is why the generational designations I've outlined are considered the de-facto standard.

 

[DavidGzz]

Wouldn't surprise me in the least, Gamepass, all the studio acquisitions, BC and possibly the more powerful hardware.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Nope. Dreamcast was gen 6 (11/98) along with PS2 (3/00) and Xbox (11/01)

For Switch to be considered 9th means you are pushing the start of generation a mininum of 21 months ahead of the rest of the field, and that's assuming that PS5 and Xbox 2 launched tomorrow! The reality is that the earliest likely actual launch is 11/19 with most people expecting it another 6-12 months after that sometime in 2020.

By which point we'll be looking at 2.5 to 3.5 years before it has any competition in the 9th generation, how does that make sense when the Wii U was discontinued a mere 4 years 2 months from launch? Ironically that too is a longer time span than the original Xbox had on the market before being succeeded by the 360.

Bottom line, you can't have a generation that isn't contested by all relevant parties, which is why the generational designations I've outlined are considered the de-facto standard.

This would also be the first generation where a major console manufacturer has released two consoles in one generation.

Nah, I think I'll go with the established standard, thank you very much. Switch is 9th gen. It launched 5 years after the Wii U and 6 years after the 3DS. To say it belongs to the same generation as those is silly.

 

[Kacho]

Xbox is coming boys

 

[SlashBringingHasher]

Because games now take 5 years to make, and the changes in Microsoft won't show until the next generation.

thats why the xbox one is a waste of money. microsoft abandoned it like 2 years after it launched. they saw the no hope in catching up to sales and were like fuck it. we're done here. pack it up and prepare for next gen. instead of making games like Sony did for ps3 later on

 

[YayNJ]

For the sake of mankind I hope this was a paid article.

Pehaps it might open the eyes to what the incessant Sony Gaf of olde was like to Nintendo / xbox fans.

 

[ReBurn]

thats why the xbox one is a waste of money. microsoft abandoned it like 2 years after it launched. they saw the no hope in catching up to sales and were like fuck it. we're done here. pack it up and prepare for next gen. instead of making games like Sony did for ps3 later on

The xbox one hasn't been abandoned, though. It hasn't had as much first party content as PS4, but it's had plenty of great games that can't be played on other consoles.

 

[SlashBringingHasher]

The xbox one hasn't been abandoned, though. It hasn't had as much first party content as PS4, but it's had plenty of great games that can't be played on other consoles.

right but then you can you know. just buy a pc and not have to play it on the xbox one.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

right but then you can you know. just buy a pc and not have to play it on the xbox one.

Even if all these games were available on PC people would still buy an XBox so I wonder when these "why not just buy a PC" arguments will stop. Many people rather game on console than PC

 

[ReBurn]

right but then you can you know. just buy a pc and not have to play it on the xbox one.

It's great for have choices, isn't it? Being able to move between the PC and the couch is a huge plus. Play anywhere is good for gamers.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Same exact stuff was written end of last gen Sony is doomed MS is going to be the only console left standing etc.

I remeber Jeff Gerstman specifically saying that MS was poised to dominate this gen. That seems to have been based purely on what he hear from PR people. And then the Xbox one happened.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Even if all these games were available on PC people would still buy an XBox so I wonder when these "why not just buy a PC" arguments will stop. Many people rather game on console than PC

Exactly.

Not every gamer wants to spend $1,000+ on a good PC rig and be ball and chained to Steam and the like.

Some gamers like to buy discs, and that's something PC gaming doesn't offer anymore except for some select top selling titles.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Same exact stuff was written end of last gen Sony is doomed MS is going to be the only console left standing etc.

I remeber Jeff Gerstman specifically saying that MS was poised to dominate this gen. That seems to have been based purely on what he hear from PR people. And then the Xbox one happened.

Everyone takes a guess before every generation.

Zero websites thought Wii would be so dominate. And it sold more than 360 and PS3 by 20 million. Everyone thought PS3 would be a runaway success like PS2 and it didn't come close.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Pehaps it might open the eyes to what the incessant Sony Gaf of olde was like to Nintendo / xbox fans.

Yeah I'm a Nintendo fanboy and it had its dark moments lol. I know this is true for every fanbase in existence ever and not just in gaming, but dear God there are some fucking obnoxious Sony fans. And I don't mean the obvious unintelligent mongoloids that permeate the lowest common denominator Gamefaq of places, I mean people who are actually able to write reasonably logical sentences, but choose to sound like Astroturfers instead.

 

[ReBurn]

Same exact stuff was written end of last gen Sony is doomed MS is going to be the only console left standing etc.

I remeber Jeff Gerstman specifically saying that MS was poised to dominate this gen. That seems to have been based purely on what he hear from PR people. And then the Xbox one happened.

Everyone makes predictions before they have facts. Nobody thought that after the Xbox One was revealed.

 

[SaviourMK2]

Unless the new Xbox jacks you off and pays you to play games, I remain in denial Xbox could ever do such a thing.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Even if all these games were available on PC people would still buy an XBox so I wonder when these "why not just buy a PC" arguments will stop. Many people rather game on console than PC

But those people, like me will just buy a Playstation then. That is the whole point.

I prefer console gaming so I have a PS4. There is zero reason for me to have an Xbox because I have a perfectly capable gaming PC for the few (currently none) MS exclusives I want to play.

Basically if you want to play all games you need a PC a Playstaion and a Nintnedo console for 100% coverage.

Thier decision to make all their games run on PC means I will never need to buy an Xbox.

 

[Halo0629]

We'll see. I also want to see a more competitive xbox next gen since they've pretty much sat and let sony steamrolled them this gen.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

But those people, like me will just buy a Playstation then. That is the whole point.

I prefer console gaming so I have a PS4. There is zero reason for me to have an Xbox because I have a perfectly capable gaming PC for the few (currently none) MS exclusives I want to play.

Basically if you want to play all games you need a PC a Playstaion and a Nintnedo console for 100% coverage.

Thier decision to make all their games run on PC means I will never need to buy an Xbox.

I can see if you ran a car dealership, you'd sell one sedan, one SUV, and one pick up. lol

 

[The_Mike]

Sony would need to make twice as many fuck ups than they did in 2006 for Microsoft's next console to catch them, regardless of how powerful it is. But I just can't see it happening. Unless MS closes the gap via quality first party content.

Sony could sell a box with first class feces and would still sell better than the next Xbox. Sony is blessed with a extremely religious fan base that will protect them no matter what.

Not everyone has that privilege.

 

[The_Mike]

What games have you made?

Which consoles have you made? None? Then get off this console debate!

See how stupid this is?

 

[demigod]

Which consoles have you made? None? Then get off this console debate!

See how stupid this is?

Nope, im not the one claiming its easy to make. See how stupid your post is now?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Sony could sell a box with first class feces and would still sell better than the next Xbox. Sony is blessed with a extremely religious fan base that will protect them no matter what.

Not everyone has that privilege.

Yup.

Since X has been winning every match up, pissing contests have now changed to sales. Since X launched, I have yet to see one thread where Sony fans bring up PS4 or Pro. It was such a big deal about 1080p vs 900p in 2013-2016, yet not so much anymore when X has the best visuals.

If Xbox was selling 10 million units, that would be a concern because many studios wouldn't bother. But even at 20 or 30 million, that's enough for all third party devs to make a game on any platform. And with that, an X version gets made and blows away all other consoles. X probably only has 3-4 million consoles out there and even then third party devs will make X updates.

So it goes to show high user bases aren't even important anymore since games can be easily ported and scaled on all consoles.

So until PS5 and X2 get launched and become the new pissing contestants, everyone knows X will rule.... and by the looks of it that will be for another 2 years if fall 2020 is the accurate date for next consoles.

 

[wipeout364]

I think there is a strong possibility of a huge push towards xbox. Microsoft has bought into the services paradigm and has the backbone to deliver. They are second to amazon who is the biggest in the world for servers.

I believe the next generation will be about games, respect for your loyalty ( backwards compatibility), services and infrastructure. Sony has games but Microsoft has way more cash in hand than Sony could ever dream of to make games.

Sony will never match MS on services or infrastructure they just don't have the know how or the money to do it. So that leaves respect for your loyalty which for Sony is a unknown but for MS has locked in. Microsoft could be in quite a strong position if they play their cards right. Microsoft has the money and time to play the long game if they are committed.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think there is a strong possibility of a huge push towards xbox. Microsoft has bought into the services paradigm and has the backbone to deliver. They are second to amazon who is the biggest in the world for servers.

I believe the next generation will be about games, respect for your loyalty ( backwards compatibility), services and infrastructure. Sony has games but Microsoft has way more cash in hand than Sony could ever dream of to make games.

Sony will never match MS on services or infrastructure they just don't have the know how or the money to do it. So that leaves respect for your loyalty which for Sony is a unknown but for MS has locked in. Microsoft could be in quite a strong position if they play their cards right. Microsoft has the money and time to play the long game if they are committed.

MS's best bet for more success next year is definitely the software and services side. Unique stuff they can gain traction on.

Simply releasing a great console at a great price isn't enough to move the needle in my opinion, because chances are pretty good Sony will do the same thing so it's a wash.

Of course, MS can purposely dump awesome systems for cheap, or hope Sony does another $599 PS3 thing, but that's unlikely on both ends. When PS5 and X2 launch, both systems will likely be close in price and specs. And ywo years from now, specs becomes even less important since it'll all be about 4k again (I doubt it'll be 8k). Most people don't even have a 4k tv yet and two years from now, I still see most people having 1080p.

MS is blatantly going after users and revenue from software/subscription models (crossplay, Play Anywhere, Game Pass), with a secondary source being console units to keep up the user base. It looks like MS doesn't really care as long as people buy up the software based services. Sony is the opposite. Their focus is the traditional way of console success (like selling Spidey bundles for $199 and pieces of software).

 

[thelastword]

Some highlights from the article:









Full article on Engadget.

"Microsoft has doggedly climbed its way out of a PR and reputation pit with items like the Xbox One X and the Adaptive Controller as well as its public support of cross-console play."

Out of what pit? Where are the games? Is MS selling more than Sony or Nintendo.....If anything, MS has gone further down the pit with fake hype and bad PR....Also, from the time Nintendo came out with Switch, they have been beating MS consistently too. So I'd really love to know what formula is used to arrive at this "doggedly climbed its way out bad rep" or is it opposites day?

"Xbox has been the bumbling underdog of the eighth console generation, playing catch-up to Sony's PlayStation 4 and watching from a distance as the Nintendo Switch reignited the passion of video game fans worldwide."

And PS4 has not? "Reignited the passion"Wasn't mobile the future and a console future dead after last gen consoles according to these same gaming journalists?"... Not once did this author write something positive about Sony's output, be it, the games, vr, the better pricepoint. She endears every other console, but positions PS4 as "it sold 86 million I guess".....There are mulitple reasons why it's doing so well.....This author wants to speak of potential success for a console company that has never won, that up to this day has not delivered on a bevy of quality games the entire gen and tries to belittle or ignore the accomplishments of the most dominant console manufacturer in history.....This is like Phil saying PRO competes with XBOX-ONE-S type drivel...


The Xbox One was going to be the first console to require an internet connection, allowing Microsoft to implement new features on a regular basis, but executives sold this idea in the most confusing, anti-consumer way possible.

I'm I hearing this right, so she supports an always online console, but believes MS just didn't fool the people enough in it's 2013 messaging. Perhaps they should give her the job to do their PR...With such an article, maybe she already has it...


Sony was on a roll with the marketing of the PS4. Its messaging was clear, the console was familiar but beefed up, it would work just fine offline and it cost $100 less than the Xbox One.

The console was familiar, what does this even mean? It's like I've heard this before, All Sony games are the same, the console is familiar? This is the most bonkers thing I've read in that article......No, the console was built for 1080p gaming, where 98% of it's games are 1080p, it was more powerful, it has a unique controller with great media features that are gamecentric instead of TV TV TV, snap and a Kinect failure at $500.00.....In any case, not being able to share your games like you always did, being locked out of your own console if you have no internet, a crappy voice system that never worked well "XBOX play golf" is not the non-familiarity we want out of a new console.....Ask MS to concetrate on the bottomline, games....

Post-launch, the Xbox One X proved itself as a cutting-edge console capable of delivering the most beautiful living-room gaming experiences possible.

The most beautiful living room gaming experiences are Sony games....No contest in the graphics department.....UC4, LL, Detroit, Bloodborne, GTS, Driveclub, Horizon Zero Dawn, Infamous, Until Dawn, 1886, GOW, Spiderman, Shadowfall....etc etc. etc...

The Great Xbox Comeback of 2018 has been brewing for more than a year, starting with the launch of the Xbox One X on November 7th, 2017. The One X is the most powerful console on the market, offering 4K gaming and Blu-ray. Microsoft has the edge here, since the Xbox One X is the only console with true, baked-in 4K capabilities. Sony's PS4 Pro does offer 4K gaming but only through an upscaling process, and it doesn't support UHD Blu-ray.

Yes, this is defintely MS PR.......Reads just like something Phil said and of course what an MS fan would say, it's like I've heard it all before on forums and in PR....No objectivity whatsoever, notwithstanding, it's plain wrong and verified false information...So I'm not sure if she's trying to fool people, that she doesn't know anything about PRO or she's just being plain disingenuos...

PRO has many 4k native games and 4k capabilities as well, it does not need UHD bluray for that...


Microsoft is on the right side of history when it comes to cross-console play.

So more FUD? No it's not....Sony is on the right side of HISTORY when it comes to crossplay.....Sony has had crossplay since the PS2 days....In the PS3 era Sony wanted crossplay with MS.....Microsoft said "Hell No" and somehow they're on the rightside with crossplay history? This gen, how many crossplay games does MS have next to Sony? Just lots of bad takes and forum styled points from a wooled eyed xbox fan it would seem....Facts don't lie...You can't fabricate an existentiality for XBOX in hopes that it was so or becomes so.....Deal with the facts as they were and as they are....

The Xbox squad also expanded its market in 2018 in an unlikely, yet truly important, way. The Xbox Adaptive Controller is a $100 gamepad built specifically for people with disabilities, and it's the first accessory of its caliber.

There have been many accessories for people with disablilities, some self made and those made by companies....Should Sony go boasting that remapping their controller better serves people with disabilities, that was offerered very early on....What gets me though, is that a controller for people with disabilities is priced so high...Why? You really believe MS did this from the goodness of their hearts at $100, to boast this is truly low indeed...

The Xbox Adaptive Controller brings video games to 1 billion people who have been poorly served or left out of the market for decades, and its full impact on the future of gaming remains to be seen.

So you mean to tell me, guys like Broly-Legs and so many others were left out of gaming all those years.......1 Billion people who have been poorly served and left out? So how many Adaptive controllers have been sold at $100.00, where you need to buy even further accesories based on the particular disability or perhasp this controller does not work for certain disabilities at all.....This just seem like a play on words and figures, trying to paint MS in a good-light but miserably failing....A controller for disabled persons is catered to MS's bottomline than it is to 1 billion persons who were poorly served before..or left-out.


Microsoft is preparing developers to work in a streaming ecosystem with a public beta for its Project xCloud service launching in 2019. Compare all of this with Sony, a company that has backed away from courting independent developers, refused to implement cross-console play and just recently pulled out of E3 2019 entirely.

Another MS announcement and a typical XBOX fan post......Project X-Cloud, vapor, a bevy of good games the entire gen, vapor.....They're buying game studios you see......Wait till next gen, but what about these last 5 years and the hohum support and delivery?.....Forget about that, MS is all about the hype and the future...JSony is anti-crossplay and anti-E3 you see....Just you wait till next gen, even if you didn't get much this gen, just believe.....I mean, MS has Compulsion Games, Undead Labs etc...to take on Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and the like 'please be excited"....Believe in the hype, just like we promised in 2013, with the most balanced console we promised the XBOX-ONE would be, unlimited power from the cloud, dedicated servers for all games "Azure, Azure, Azure".....also don't forget TV TV TV, Xbox 'play HBO", where else can you get this? Snap and Skype are what gamers need...People still use remotes and cable boxes? Pffftttt......Anyway, Crackdown 3 will lead the charge in cloud technology, just wait ....Yes, MS is poised allright, to keep on bullshitting it's fans as they always have.....Wait 5 years for these new acquisitions to produce they say, when current studios linger in development hell with hohum delivery, but Gallagher at the Vapor Initiative will change the fortunes, a man who run from Square, who just wanted to fall on greener pastures where a fatter wallet lie........Yes, you can't make this stuff....And to the author, good luck.....

What games have you made?

He reminds me of Iamthatiam, a poster on the internet who said Detroit was nothing special, any developer could do it with a smaller scope...That he could re-create and whip up any scene people deem amazing looking in Detroit in UE4 in qucik time....Character rendering, lighting complexity, effects et al....Still no show to this day....These guys are not bad for the odd chuckle though....

 

[Norse]

It's obvious that some of you posting would never buy an Xbox regardless. Sony blood flows through you. I get it. But the posts in this thread reminds me a lot of just before x360 launch. It dominated Sony in the US. How they forget.

Games from 3rd parties play best on the 1X, so if cod or bf4 are your games of choice, best have an Xbox.

 

[FStubbs]

Yeah only if Microsoft can figure out how to sell Xboxes in non English speaking countries.

 

[kevin_trinh]

My original statement was a jumping off point, but if you want to focus directly on the original challenge, show me someone in Uncharted, TLOU, or killzone on ps4 with high playing hours like that on MP.
Looking at MLG official games list, Sony doesn't have a single game listed. MS has Gears and Halo. MP games on PS are just not in the same league as MS. The opposite is true when discussing SP games, but SP focused games seem to be the only narrative that some want to discuss.

Sorry but PS player has too many MP game to choose, i can play some PvP match in Bloodborne and when i get bored, i jump to DFFNT to play some match. So your argument is invalid from the start, the MP game time does not mean anything, not every gamer want to play 1 game from time to time.

Stop moving goal post and admit Xbox's game line up was poor shit.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

With what? Sea of Emptiness and State of Sucks Balls? Forza alone isn't enough.

Good ol State of Suck Balls

 

[Elenchus]

Lol. Seems I touched a nerve for some. Guess we need to have another conversation about how opinions work...

 

[demigod]

Yep, typical response just like I expected, lololol. Lol.

 

[DForce]

Lol. Seems I touched a nerve for some. Guess we need to have another conversation about how opinions work...

I'm sure most of us laughed.

 

[sendit]

The xbox one hasn't been abandoned, though. It hasn't had as much first party content as PS4, but it's had plenty of great games that can't be played on other consoles.

True. You can't play Forza Horizon 3/4 on the PS4. Not sure what other great games there are though?

 

[Gavon West]

So what is MS's excuse then this whole gen, if these games are not as "difficult"?

Some of the shit I read man, I swear.

Funding...for one. Its no secret that the Gaming division was on the back burner which didnt leave alot to be considered game wise. That's not the case now. Fact of the matter is; this is the first time Xbox has been this focused on gaming since probably the OG. That's why the brand is so unpredictable now.

They aren't loading up to lose, and no one can really say what will happen with Xbox because not one of the Big 3 have EVER done anything like Microsoft is doing right now. And there's still two years left and billions left for Phil and Booty to play with.

You guys also forget that with the new devs working on brand new Ip's, it will give the major pillars (Halo, Gears and Forza(s) time to breathe and strengthen - making each new release that much stronger, because they arent the only games holding up the brand now. That's a HUGE deal.

But please....carry-on. Next gen is going to be very interesting indeed.

 

[FStubbs]

Nah, it's a 9th gen console. It will directly compete with whatever Sony and Microsoft put out next. It also launched 5 years after the Wii U* which is a fairly established generational cycle.

Unless you think Dreamcast was a contemporary of the PS1 and N64 and Saturn.

*EDIT: sorry, Wii U, not Wii.

Switch is unquestionably a 9th gen handheld. It's also a 9th gen console for the reason stated above. Nintendo isn't on Sony or Microsoft's clock anymore.

 

[MilesTeg]

With media pieces like this on "Xbox Scarlet" and whatnot, all signs point to 2019 new Xbox release for the holiday season.

Sony has been also heavily rumored, but with them skipping E3 it's tough to say what's going to happen.

I just feel like Microsoft is "prepping" us for a new console release next year and I would be surprised if it doesn't happen at this point.

I think Microsoft releasing next year is a strong move against Sony if true.

I do think that Microsoft has built some good will with the players and made up a bit for Xbox One launch.