[Eurogamer] First HDMI 2.1 gaming monitor for PC and next-gen consoles announced

[GHG]

Will probably stick to 120hz 1440p/60hz 4k for the foreseeable future.

The GPU power required to maintain above 60fps @ 4k most likely won't be there for a while if you like to keep your settings cranked.

 

[Knch]

Real talk, I want a proper pc set up like I had when I was a kid, you know, desk, monitor chair n shit.

Now that I'm a lazy adult, I game on console and a pc plugged in to a big TV while slouching on the sofa.

What comfortable chair options are there where I can sit like southparkworldofwarcraft guy and be as comfy as a sofa?

MAXNOMIC® Office Comfort CHAIRS by NEEDforSEAT®

An elegant, sporty “executive chair” with thicker foam padding, longer seat base and adjustable lumbar support. Ideal for extended periods of use.

www.needforseatusa.com

When my mate first saw it: "Lul, gaym0rseat..."
After he sat in it for a second: *slouching further and further* "Ye, is comfy."

It is cheaper than a proper adult one and is wearing out slower than the chairs at work.

 

[Dr.D00p]

..A new feature for the gaming PC crowd!

..that will be a price gouging $200 premium then, for no justifiable reason.

 

[Antwix]

The chart is eh but it's a fact that 4k at a 27inch monitor is absolutely useless.

it must suck to have shitty eyesight

 

[TheCockatrice]

it must suck to have shitty eyesight

If you're noticing a huge difference on a 27inch monitor you're either blind or dumb.

edit: http://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensity...sizeUnit:in,axis:diag,distance:39,distUnit:in feel free to check that shit urself unless ofc you're non-human then I suppose it won't apply to you.

 

[BlackM1st]

This monitor is a literal POS lol. No one would look at it if not for 2.1. 2.1 is needed for something like Asus ROG Swift PG32UQX.

 

[McHuj]

I really want a 32" 4k/144Hz monitor. I've been using a 32" 4K for work and have gotten used to it. It's hard to got back down in size.

 

[Antwix]

If you're noticing a huge difference on a 27inch monitor you're either blind or dumb.

edit: http://phrogz.net/tmp/ScreenDensity...sizeUnit:in,axis:diag,distance:39,distUnit:in feel free to check that shit urself unless ofc you're non-human then I suppose it won't apply to you.

Yes.... I am BLIND for being able to notice a difference in resolutions. lmao. I can CLEARLY tell a difference on a 27" between 1080p 1440p and 2160p.

It's one thing to think it's not worth upgrading for diminishing returns (at a high price), but to think it's not useful or noticeable is definitely not true...

 

[Flintty]

I literally upgraded to 144hz last week. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice, but not the game changer the internet promised me. I’ve played 60fps games since trying it and it’s not impossible to go back to as suggested by higher FPS fans.

So, I’m happy with what I got and won’t be upgrading for quite a few years!

 

[Spukc]

I literally upgraded to 144hz last week. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice, but not the game changer the internet promised me. I’ve played 60fps games since trying it and it’s not impossible to go back to as suggested by higher FPS fans.

So, I’m happy with what I got and won’t be upgrading for quite a few years!

Inc VFR ? That is a gamechanger imo.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The LG CX OLED has HDMI 2.1, but only 40 Gbps instead of the full 48 Gbps, though, it shouldn't matter much. Looking forward to the 48" or 55" LG CX OLED.

40 Gbps is still enough to get 4K/120 Hz at 10-bit RGB/444 so its mostly fine. It does lose 12-bit, but since the panels are only 10-bit its really not a huge loss as you say.

 

[deriks]

Too big for a PC monitor, too small for a TV

 

[Stray Parts]

HDMI 2.1 controllers are very rare at this time, only high end TV's have them so were this company is sourcing there controller from is a mystery.

No big monitor makers have announced anything with HDMI 2.1 and usually when they do a big announcement the product can be up to a year or more away.

So a crowd funding company out of nowhere annoucning a HDMI 2.1 compatible monitor for the end of 2020 strikes me a bit optimistic.

It's a shame MS just didnt use a USB-C port on the XSX to give use Displayport 144Hz (capped at 120fps) and not have to rely on the HDMI interface for this.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

HDMI 2.1 controllers are very rare at this time, only high end TV's have them so were this company is sourcing there controller from is a mystery.

No big monitor makers have announced anything with HDMI 2.1 and usually when they do a big announcement the product can be up to a year or more away.

So a crowd funding company out of nowhere annoucning a HDMI 2.1 compatible monitor for the end of 2020 strikes me a bit optimistic.

It's a shame MS just didnt use a USB-C port on the XSX to give use Displayport 144Hz (capped at 120fps) and not have to rely on the HDMI interface for this.

HDMI 2.1 will pick up once new GPUs come out. The LG C9/CX pretty much immediately becomes the overall best gaming monitor, except for those who want the highest of the highest framerates and care little about image quality.

Adding a USB-C port would add unneccessary cost to the XSX

 

[EverydayBeast]

4K is a great fit for PC gaming

 

[llien]

Do you know of an open HDMI alternative?

DIsplayport is royalty free, unlike HDMI.

Would you prefer HDMI stay as it is and not move forward?

Absolutely, and Dolby crap on top of it.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I really want a 32" 4k/144Hz monitor. I've been using a 32" 4K for work and have gotten used to it. It's hard to got back down in size.

I am probably going to upgrade my monitor (using a curved 27 inch 1440p 144hz Sammy) when I upgrade from a 2070 Super to 3080 ti

 

[Kuranghi]

I wouldn't waste your money buying HDMI 2.1 monitors for PS5/XSX, the modes it allows will be barely used. Plus what others have already said about them being really overpriced for the picture you get from edge lighting and IPS.

 

[Tier2]

I always thought Dispalyport 2 would be the way for PC going forward.

Supports up to 16k and HDR10.

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Someone please explain why I should buy a 3840x2160 at 144Hz monitor when I can buy the 1440p and use a games inbuilt scaling set at 150%. Ofc I know not all games have this but it's becoming fairly common now..

You're essentially getting the same thing right? 4k downscaled to 1440p at 144hz. Or will a native 4k screen look better?

 

[Tier2]

Someone please explain why I should buy a 3840x2160 at 144Hz monitor when I can buy the 1440p and use a games inbuilt scaling set at 150%. Ofc I know not all games have this but it's becoming fairly common now..

You're essentially getting the same thing right? 4k downscaled to 1440p at 144hz. Or will a native 4k screen look better?

4k downscaled to 1440p will look better than 1440p native(better AA) but not as good as 4k native.

 

[bumleforce]

No 32 inch version

 

[Soodanim]

DIsplayport is royalty free, unlike HDMI.


Absolutely, and Dolby crap on top of it.

We’d all love to see open standards take over I’m sure, but a competitor for HDMI isn’t going to happen any time soon. DisplayPort, from the little I’ve read, seems to be designed to be very PC monitor specific in its scope. It certainly doesn’t (again from the little I’ve read) have half of the AV features HDMI has.

Besides, doesn’t this forum frown upon port begging?

 

[indigoSociety]

Cant wait for this but an oled/qled samsung/asus version of these specs

 

[Flintty]

Inc VFR ? That is a gamechanger imo.

I’m still playing with the settings to try and get the best out of it. I don’t think I’ve got to that yet but I’ll tinker tomorrow. I enabled Gsync but only tried that on WoW and it fucked it up with tearing.

It has been educational though. I never knew about mouse polling rate until yesterday. Making lots of small gains.

 

[bumleforce]

Will probably stick to 120hz 1440p/60hz 4k for the foreseeable future.

The GPU power required to maintain above 60fps @ 4k most likely won't be there for a while if you like to keep your settings cranked.

Im starting to feel the same way. I feel like the only games that will hit 120 will be fighting, raceing, multiplayer, and last gen games. Dont expect Halo or Uncharted to go above 60

 

[D.Final]

First HDMI 2.1 gaming monitor for PC and next-gen consoles announced

Eve claims its Spectrum gaming monitor will be the first to support HDMI 2.1 when it's released later this year, with options for 4K 144Hz and 1440p 240Hz models.

www.eurogamer.net

Eve Spectrum hardware gallery

www.eurogamer.net

thanks @The Janitor

4k model specs

Spoiler

I would say pretty cool

 

[Flintty]

Inc VFR ? That is a gamechanger imo.

So I can’t find any setting for VFR. I’ve got VBR on the monitor, which needs G-Sync and HDR disables to use. It’s nice and smooth but the screen is a hell of a lot darker. I don’t know what to do at this point

 

[rofif]

I don't care about hdmi version or high framerate really since I play at 4k (or 1800p if I can't reach 60fps).
All I want is nice, 4k oled monitor with freesync. if it's more than 60hz, sure, whatever.
I am just annoyed that we never got good quality LCD monitors and instead of improving on that, we have stupid 360hz monitors now....

 

[Spukc]

So I can’t find any setting for VFR. I’ve got VBR on the monitor, which needs G-Sync and HDR disables to use. It’s nice and smooth but the screen is a hell of a lot darker. I don’t know what to do at this point

Gsync is variable frame rate VFR.
Disable vsync and make sure your fps ingame is limited below the max FR og your screen so set it at 140fps or something

 

[GreatnessRD]

You won't get HDMI 2.1 on the 144hz

That's what made this whole situation phony. How you gonna leave it out on the 144hz model. Weaksauce.

 

[Flintty]

Gsync is variable frame rate VFR.
Disable vsync and make sure your fps ingame is limited below the max FR og your screen so set it at 140fps or something

I’ll give it another go, thank you!
I assume if you have VFR it doesn’t matter so much what your actual FPS is as the monitor matches the output?

I tried that in WoW but I think there’s a problem with it running in max window mode (I get shit kids of tearing). I’ll try it properly on Div 2 and Apex later

 

[D.Final]

I don't care about hdmi version or high framerate really since I play at 4k (or 1800p if I can't reach 60fps).
All I want is nice, 4k oled monitor with freesync. if it's more than 60hz, sure, whatever.
I am just annoyed that we never got good quality LCD monitors and instead of improving on that, we have stupid 360hz monitors now....

Yeah...

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I have been using DisplayPort since upgrading from my old 1080p BenQ to my current 1440p Sammy

 

[GreenAlien]

240Hz..
Do FPS need to match Hz to see the benefit?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

240Hz..
Do FPS need to match Hz to see the benefit?

Im not a expert But I’ve been told just having the monitor still a higher refresh rate alone improves latency?