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[thefro]

No chance in hell of it getting Geforce Now. Gamestream from your own PC is possible (but highly unlikely), be Geforce Now? Not a chance in hell.

GeForce Now sounds like a "Nintendo-like solution" to the lack of third party support to me. It may be branded differently, but I would bet on it happening if NX really has a Tegra chip powering it.

That'd be a reason for Nvidia to give Nintendo a crazy deal on the hardware.

 

[Zombie James]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

It's a handheld. Remember the PSP?

 

[exmachina64]

I'm sorry to burst some bubbles, but I want to remind you all that Wii U, PS4, and Xbone all had much more powerful devkits than the final version. It's possible that the same is happening here and that they final chip will be a cut-down TX1 with only one SMM.

Ding ding ding.

 

[purdobol]

Do 3ds games cost more than Wii U games in your region?!

Smash Bros Wii U ~ 60$ (25GB Blu Ray)
Smash Bros 3DS ~ 50$ (2-3 GB? flash nand)

Cannot imagine 32GB flash cartridge being priced at 50$ here...

 

[BocoDragon]

If this news is true, it basically signals a retreat of Nintendo from the home console business.

That's huge news. Huge.

Why? It still plugs into a TV.

 

[Ryuuga]

I'm curious what this will be priced at considering it'll be a relic by the time of it's release. If this thing ends up tanking harder than the Wii U they could always opt to selling mini versions of their other consoles to the faithful anyway.

 

[Jonneh3003]

If we look at this generations Zelda output we have:
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
Hyrule Warriors
Hyrule Warriors Legends
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Now imagine what the series would be like if there were only one system. Some of these games probably wouldn't exist, others may have taken their place but regardless that would be a hell of a lot of Zelda games for one system, Eiji Aonuma may have gone on to make that new IP he was talking about. We're talking about a system where Mario Kart 7 and 8 would just be one title. This is very exciting and gives older IPs more of a chance to return.

 

[Peltz]

so practically goodbye local multiplayer gaming.

No, practically hello local multiplayer gaming ANYWHERE.

 

[Milly Osworth]

I will be disappointed if not ALL patents will be in this thing.

 

[elshoelace]

What about the Pokémon/Animal Crossing/Monster Hunter audience?

This is what I keep thinking about. Factor in the people who buy these games and I figure it can't do worse than the Wii U at least.

 

[Guess Who]

Nintendo's recommending 32gb cartridges?

Don't see the problem, 32GB would readily hold most current-gen games. Would likely have faster read speeds than a Blu-Ray drive too.

You can buy a 32GB microSD off Amazon that runs circles around the PS4 BD drive's read speeds for like ten bucks, and surely Nintendo would get them for less.

 

[Panajev2001a]

"Due to the radical change in hardware design and internal technology, we've been told by one source that there are no plans for backwards compatibility"

Hopefully it is fast enough to emulate VC titles better and N64 as well as Wii titles, but athough there were not as many classics I was really looking forward not to have many devices plugged in my TV. I do not think I do have free HDMI ports actually :/...

 

[Metal Khaos]

But what about battery life? :S

Asking the important question.

 

[javadoze]

I'm loving this news, seeing how I mostly love portable gaming.

Though I'm more curious to see the cost/form-factor of this thing come September.

 

[Sorcerer]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

Do you like loading times?

 

[Jonneh3003]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

Discs are slow and require installs, cartridges are a lot cheaper now.

 

[psyfi]

Yeah I'm honestly shocked more people aren't interpreting it as such.

Nintendo is basically declining to continue their home console business. It's almost as big as when Sega exited hardware.

There's still so much we don't know, though. The dock could make this more relevant to the living room than we think, or this could be just one form the NX takes, with a second, more TV-centric machine being planned.

But yeah, if you're right, then damn. This is huge.

 

[Nothing1016]

Soooo we heard rumors from almost everyone about how this thing was between and Xbox 1 and PS4... Is that the docking station acting as like a supplement to the handheld?

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Discs are slow and require installs, cartridges are a lot cheaper now.

And provide more than adequate memory and space now right? I keep catching myself as thinking cartridges are inherently worse, but that can't be true.

 

[benjammin]

If this news is true, it basically signals a retreat of Nintendo from the home console business.

That's huge news. Huge.

Nah, it's just a new interpretation on what a home console can be. Just like the Wii was at the time.

 

[Prototype]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

Mehciancs required to spin discs means more parts and they have to be powered too. Think about this for a while. It's a portable device too.

It's fucking 2016, cards/carts is fine.

 

[vpance]

Will it run Android?

 

[paolo11]

This is a cool concept. I want to see the actual product.

 

[exmachina64]

I will be disappointed if not ALL patents will be in this thing.

Setting yourself up for a big disappointment.

 

[EatinOlives]

Don't see the problem, 32GB would readily hold most current-gen games. Would likely have faster read speeds than a Blu-Ray drive too.

You can buy a 32GB microSD off Amazon that runs circles around the PS4 BD drive's read speeds for like ten bucks, and surely Nintendo would get them for less.

Looking at the install sizes of most of my PS4 games, I don't think that's the case.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

Are you serious

 

[Zombie James]

Why? It still plugs into a TV.

The PSP Go could plug into a TV. No one calls the PSP a console.

 

[Zophar]

This is like passing on a PS4 because it won't play PS3 games. This seems incredibly short sighted.

Alright.

 

[BDGAME]

To my understanding X1 is about 1.0 tflops in FP16 but tflops are usually counted on FP32 where it's half of the FP16. Again I may be wrong so feel to free correct me.

Okay so no X2 which is called Parker instead. I haven't found any reliable info how powerful it will be. Could you link your source?

And you're right, custom X1 chip is very possible. But it still feels a bit underwhelming tbh.

The only thing I found that can give us any clue about how 1 single Parker chip can have in power is that:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9903/nvidia-announces-drive-px-2-pascal-power-for-selfdriving-cars

With that number, 1 Parker = 4 TF chip, right?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Don't see the problem, 32GB would readily hold most current-gen games. Would likely have faster read speeds than a Blu-Ray drive too.

It better be faster as there is likely no hard drive to back it up. Also, you cannot compress the game to heck and back and unpack it when installing it if you only have a cartridge and no mass storage to unpack it into beyond RAM.

 

[Spacejaws]

But what are the controls gonna be like...hooefully nothing like that picturec( 2 analogue stick, d pad and 4 face buttons) if so alot of the control may be on the screen itself in which case im out.

 

[stilgar]

Nintendo's recommending 32gb cartridges?

-____-

 

[Creaking]

Good luck Nintendo. This smells like the Wii U 2

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Alright.

I mean, I can understand a lack of BC being a disappointment, but to almost completely write off an entire console because of it seems weird.

 

[LordRaptor]

Soooo we heard rumors from almost everyone about how this thing was between and Xbox 1 and PS4... Is that the docking station acting as like a supplement to the handheld?

Or confirmation that the X1 and PS4 were really cheaping out on their launch configurations.

 

[Hakai]

I'm sorry to burst some bubbles, but I want to remind you all that Wii U, PS4, and Xbone all had much more powerful devkits than the final version. It's possible that the same is happening here and that they final chip will be a cut-down TX1 with only one SMM.

Oh oh

 

[ZOONAMI]

Why? It still plugs into a TV.

This news in no way confirms that there is not an upcoming dedicated home console from Nintendo. This "news" is also just a rumor, and all the rumor is telling us is that you can use the NX handheld with your TV and the dev kits are running on tegra x1 chips.

 

[maxcriden]

Yeah maybe I should have been more clear what I meant when I wrote that.

It's cool, it's so hard to tell subtleties of speech like that on a forum anyway.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Cartridges are good for a handhled .
It's the home console part that going to get screw over by them .
Disc cost cents , size is good and they are easy to get .

 

[CharminUltra]

If this means a new Pokemon main line game on my fucking TV I will buy one.

Holy shit.

Glorious.

 

[Goldenmoney]

Sounds great if this is actually a hybrid, hopefully there will be less software droughts, though a more powerful device will make development times longer.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

Think SD cards or USB sticks. Storage has gone way up on solid state media, and they're way more feasible for a portal system.

 

[21XX]

Just make it the "NEX." Nintendo Entertainment Xperience. It's XTREME and nostalgic.

Spoiler

Just kidding. Don't do that.

 

[Jonneh3003]

And provide more than adequate memory and space now right? I keep catching myself as thinking cartridges are inherently worse, but that can't be true.

The OP says 32gb but obviously none of this is definitive.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

The issue with that is that if the aluminium back is the main conduit of heat from the SoC to the heatsink/fan, then it's going to be pretty damn hot after the device has been used in docked mode. If Nintendo went with active cooling in docked mode, they'd need a solution where the device can be easily picked up immediately after use without being uncomfortably hot to the touch.

Here's a silly idea, feel free to shoot it down. What if it actually uses cartridges, not sd cards, but cartridges that have physical access to the motherboard like in the old days. Could you design a board in such a way that blowing or sucking air through this passage with an external fan would keep the device sufficiently cool when docked?

 

[Mesoian]

Why are they using cartridges???? I can't understand this and not discs

This is a mobile thing.

How you gonna run a disc in a mobile platform? Remember UMD's? That shit barely worked.

 

[Fou-Lu]

If this means a new Pokemon main line game on my fucking TV I will buy one.

....opinion suddenly changing to positive.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Good luck Nintendo. This smells like the Wii U 2

Come on that's pretty premature. If it catches on with general users, doesn't matter how different it is. 3rd party developers will move on from the whole "alienated" stance to tap into the userbase.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

Wouldn't it cost more to manufacture cartridges compared to Blu-Ray?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

This news in no way confirms that there is not an upcoming dedicated home console from Nintendo. This "news" is also just a rumor, and all the rumor is telling us is that you can use the NX handheld with your TV and the dev kits are running on tegra x1 chips.

If this leak is true, I'd say it pretty much confirms no future dedicated home device. What would be the point? NX is doing everything a home console from Nintendo needs to do....and it's a portable to boot.

A powerful home box isn't bringing third parties back any more than something like this would, as you'd never get the GTAs, the Fallouts, or The Witchers on that device either.