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Eurogamer: Sony mandates Vita Remote Play for all PS4 games that don't use camera.
- Thread starter Saty
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Yep, nor is it always connected to the internet. Not the same.
Because it's fucking awesome.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No it was the statement that Kinect had to plugged in for Xbone to work. Even if the PS4 came with the eye if it still works without the eye being plugged in it won't piss people off as much.
It was never implemented well before, lag killed it and screen res was meh.
amstradcpc
Member
Plus move-like controller integrated in DS4. Should still be good for looking around in 1st view games ( see Cerning moving the camera of Epic Elemental demo in PS4 presentation with the DS4 like it was a move ), even better than with move as you use your 2 hands to hold the pad instead of only one.
I could be wrong, buy I think the remote play issues on PS3 have more to do with the lack of dedicated hardware to compress and decode video than Wi-Fi bandwidth.
Touchback has enough control options...
TheContact
Member
The vita is the best handheld I've ever owned in my life. It's just not the most fun atm
amstradcpc
Member
Two analog sticks plus no lag.
Nestunt
Member
bad wireless net can lead to a piss poor uncharted 5 in my vita?
Metalmurphy
Member
Yes.
Meanwhile my fibre 20mbps upstream connection with < 10ms latency to my work place (with a 802.11n router) will rejoice.
Shame I gotta get a Vita first
amstradcpc
Member
I prefer L2 and R2 matched in the bottom of the touch screen, in the left and right sides. i can reach it with my thumbs easily.
Callibretto
Member
I doubt this will affect much to wii u. developer really don't need to do anything to add remote play, it's built on the system by default, what the developer need to do is offer alternate control scheme for vita, which may be customizable by vita anyway.
it's not like dev have to do separate programming to enable remote play.
also mean the number of cross-controller supported games (like the current guacamelee as map screen, or lbp cross controller dlc) will remain minimal unless vita suddenly sells a lot to justify it.
Why would they not provide a useful, optional feature if all the components required for it are already available and implemented in the system?
Nah. This is probably 5 lines of code for developers.
Yes, it isn't magic, just technology.
amstradcpc
Member
This will be almost automatic. Developers will have basically to match controls and activate a flag.
because it makes (some) gamers happy? that should be enough
btw, how much latency is added by playing locally in the same lan?
Callibretto
Member
the no lag things remain to be seen though. I hope it'll work great on local network at least.
Haha. That's a reach. This no more of a big deal for third parties than MS requiring they add achievements.
Indeed, I believe you are correct.
Nice feature but not enough to make me buy one. My handheld needs are sorted with the 3DS and the not a chance I would lay down money for a PS4 and then more money for Vita because of remote play. I feel the majority of consumers that haven been interested in a vita so far are not going to change because of remote play.
Where do you think the Vita needs redesigning? (non-sarcasm). Inclusion of an internal storage solution/SD card port is all I can think of tbh.
Not even that. Each PS3 game has its own "cfg" file in which CFW users can change 0 to 1 in the "use remote play" line. OS takes care of the rest, starts encoding and sending signal...
Nope it was already clarrified that the Dualshock 4 doesn't need the camera to work.
Yes you can use the touchscreen. Marvel vs Capcom 3 has the ultimate controller mode where you can use your vita as a controller for the game on ps3. I assigned 4 corners of the screen for assist calls and supers and it works very well.
With Street Fighter X Tekken you can customise the touchscreen even further for additional inputs so L2/R2 and L3/R3 shouldn't be a problem with the touchpad and touchscreen
This is just wrong
Difference is the camera doesn't have to be connected and isn't always and PS4 isn't always online
uncharted86
Member
Not in games where you might need to press L2 or R2 at the same time as you have to use the left or right stick or any of the face buttons actually. Then the back touch for L2 or R2 would be much preferred.
The back touch is hot garbage and shouldn't be preferred for anything. It's a blight on an otherwise well designed piece of hardware.
amstradcpc
Member
And besides PS4 comes with a downscaler that will make the encoding way way lighter once the frame buffer is resized to Vita native resolution before encoding it.
And Gaikai software will have also more than one word.
kevcampbell
Member
dont own a vita yet, but then again i only got a PS3 last week, so maybe in time i will get a vita too, as for PS4 that will most likely be day one for me
as for this news, i think its great news, does it mean all first party PS4 titles though? or third party too?
as for this news, i think its great news, does it mean all first party PS4 titles though? or third party too?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Yes, the PS4 has Gaikai tech built in. This allows them to turn the PS4 into a server for the Vita and so 'significantly cut lag'.
Developers don't have to do anything for this to work. If they want to add Wiiu like features, they can, but that's completely optional.
oooh cant wait to play all those games that rely on L2 and R2 using that rear touchpad.. cuz we know how good that is as a button!
/sarcasm
Im not buying a likely $500 system to play the latest and greatest in graphics on a small 5 inch screen
i love my vita but its got a ton of games already, ill stick to native vita games thank you
this is about as useful as wiiU off tv play
/sarcasm
Im not buying a likely $500 system to play the latest and greatest in graphics on a small 5 inch screen
i love my vita but its got a ton of games already, ill stick to native vita games thank you
this is about as useful as wiiU off tv play
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Bundled camera?! Oh great. $500 it is then.
Grinchy
Banned
pfft call me when Sony gets around to making something original, like a new Mario game
Nothing that isn't a system seller is worth buying or caring about.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I don't get responses like this.
Who cares when it adds functionality that is pretty cool if you've used remote play as a PSP or Vita owner on PS3.
uncharted86
Member
Huh? It works well if you just have to press on a random spot, like if R2 was mapped to the right half and L2 to the left half. I agree that the back touch is not very good if used for precision control like in Escape Plan to give an example.
amstradcpc
Member
fluffydelusions
Member
I wonder if there will some sort PS4+Vita bundle. Also, I'm hoping Vita gets a price drop at E3. The liberation bundle sold out very quickly when it went on sale during BF.
It's not required for the DS4 to work, just for tracking features.
No, it's shit 100% of the time. My fingers are always accidentally touching it while playing. I turn it off for every game, and it's definitely turned off for the PS1 and PSP emulation. Hopefully I can turn it off for PS4 remote play as well.