you have touch screen sides in the front and touchpad in the back.
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Eurogamer: Sony mandates Vita Remote Play for all PS4 games that don't use camera.
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you have touch screen sides in the front and touchpad in the back.
Metalmurphy
Member
No, but it has a rear and front multitouch pad.
If it's anything like the PSP they'll let you assign missing buttons whatever way you want.
No. The additional input could be emulated with the back touchpad or the front touch screen.
It's not one or the other. Games requiring PSEye just aren't required to support Remote Play.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So wait in theory can I leave my PS4 at home, take my Vita to Uni and play PS4 games on my vita?
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The 'Unaffordable PS4 Act' has a mandate? KazuoCare is Islamic communism!
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
I have one question for all Vita owners scared of Microsoft and Sony spying on them via Kinect and PS4Eye: Vita has a front facing camera, aren't you terrified of your privacy being violated while playing that thing?
What about the touchpad on the DS4? Won't that further gimp Remote Play on Vita? Sounds more like a hassle to make games work on Vita if games start to use the front touchpad.
Also wont this Remote Play neceserealy make devs not make any Vita games and just make PS4 games work on it?
Nikodemos
Member
Which is why I could see Sony potentially going for two separate bundles, the "crowd pleaser", with the PS4I, a Move controller, maybe a Navigator, unlikely but possible a second DS4, and a "wayfarer" bundle, with a single DS4 and a Vita (and a 4 GB memcard, since nobody buys those anyway, so including one is basically a 'free action').
It would make even more sense if the rumours about Vita's refresh (the one with HDMI-out) edition turned out to be true: bundling the 'old' Vita with the PS4 would be a great way to clear inventory.
Were I some grand poobah at Sony marketing, I'd seriously consider such a release strategy (along with the barebones $399 version occasionally hinted at).
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Nope. Back touch pad and touch screan have to do the job.
No, it'd all need to be done on the front & rear touch. It doesn't work all that well in PS1 games, but then they only use a small area of the rear touch.
I guess the 'impact' of the missing buttons will vary on a game by game basis. Hopefully it'll allow custom remapping of controls. I'm using that feature on the PS1 / PSP emulators all the time.
maverick40
Junior Member
Thread sullied at post 38, well done.
with wii u and vita (and maybe increased smartglass functionality, who knows), it's looking more and more like we're going to just have different pieces of hardware that play the same games. the next generation of handhelds, if they exist, might just be what the psp go was, and let you play the thing you downloaded to your xbox live/psn/nintendo network service.
maverick40
Junior Member
You would have to leave the ps4 on or in standby mode all the time though.
Not even, PS Eye only sees your controller. I guess you could put glowing LED orbs all over your body to get human tracking.
Smartglass will supposedly over the same functionality but work on every iPad, Android device and Windows Phone. So no, Vita remote play is not interesting to the masses.FlutterPuffs
Member
This is like Nintendo mandating remote play with the 3DS. I don't know anyone who wouldn't rejoice to that.
(although yes, a bit pointless with the gamepad but you get what I mean.)
something fishy
Member
And a heck of a cost if you don't own a vita and fancy remote play with the ps4.
Nice selling pint for wiiu to get this for far less.
Metalmurphy
Member
You mean you're trolling? Camera isn't actually turned on unless called by the app/game.
One doesn't also use a Vita to watch TV or place it convenient to face the couch or other private places when not using it.
specialguy
Banned
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So?
I mean, says who? How do you know they are telling the truth?
Of course they arent "spying" on you, but then again neither is Kinect going to.
Vita remote play: Good.
My only concern with it (beyond the connection, which should be okay if it's hardware supported) would be the viability of the controls, but if every game has to support Vita I expect Vita control systems to get better in general.
Bundled camera: Good.
Bundling it with the system guarantees the possibility of support. I've had it with Sony and their me-too add-ons that nobody gives two hoots about. It also makes better Move support more likely because you only need to buy the Move controller to use it.
I fully expect head-tracking in first-person racer Drive Club if this is the case (and possibly KZ?). Also good news.
On a partisan note, bundling the camera might have a similar effect on Kinect games as lower hardware does on multi-plats, ie. games are designed for the lowest specs (PS4Eye). That isn't good for Xbone potentially (although it could bring wider Kinect support) but wouldn't hurt PS4. If it is bundled then head-tracking and the like might become much more prevalent. That's more interesting to me than jumping around the room and waving my hands at least.
My only concern with it (beyond the connection, which should be okay if it's hardware supported) would be the viability of the controls, but if every game has to support Vita I expect Vita control systems to get better in general.
Bundled camera: Good.
Bundling it with the system guarantees the possibility of support. I've had it with Sony and their me-too add-ons that nobody gives two hoots about. It also makes better Move support more likely because you only need to buy the Move controller to use it.
I fully expect head-tracking in first-person racer Drive Club if this is the case (and possibly KZ?). Also good news.
On a partisan note, bundling the camera might have a similar effect on Kinect games as lower hardware does on multi-plats, ie. games are designed for the lowest specs (PS4Eye). That isn't good for Xbone potentially (although it could bring wider Kinect support) but wouldn't hurt PS4. If it is bundled then head-tracking and the like might become much more prevalent. That's more interesting to me than jumping around the room and waving my hands at least.
what people? Computers would suck if everyone did the apple thing.
ps4 does all the work.
haha, no kidding: http://store.smallhd.com/Store/AC7-HDMI-OLED-Field-Monitor
Although their 7" ips field monitors are $599: http://store.smallhd.com/Store/AC7-HDMI-LCD-Field-Monitor so field monitors are more expensive than equivalent tablets, but still $1099 for the 7" oled version, ouch.
Yeah, i know what you mean, but i kind of disagree.
In that way Sony could benefit from Multiplatform Titles. A lot of the features that are developed for the Xbone Titles could be ported to the PSeye (maybe not as advanced, but still). So, maybe that way Sony could offer the best of both worlds.
Yeah Remote Play sure saved the PSP! In fact thanks to it, Vita is selling millions every year! Everyone wants a vita just to play PS4 games!
i am sarcastic if anyone wonders
The Wii-U doesn't really have this. If it did, you'd be able to play all your Wii-U games on a 3DS. The Wii-U has 'Off-TV play', but it isn't mandatory for games and it doesn't have the same range. In addition, you can't buy and play separate games for the Wii-U pad.
There are as many differences as there are similarities.
Hunter-Zero
Member
What kind of question is that? are you terrified about your smartphone/ipad/laptop front camera?
Touchpad = Touchscreen
That wouldn't be a problem. Clickable sticks/Triggers are the problem here.
Metalmurphy
Member
So... unless you have an app/game using the camera it's not turned on. It's not about telling the truth, it's how the system works.
Kinect however, is recording whenever the system is powered.
You are playing it on a console. You are already playing with gimped controls
I see your point though, I didn't think of it because I'd never play games like that on console anyways. For the stuff I buy consoles for (mostly JRPGs) it seems like a fantastic feature.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Enjoy watching my face as I take a dump Sony.
Of course not, your internet connection probably has an upload rate that's far too slow to support this. You'd need at least 5 MBit upload. And 5 MBit download on your mobile connection. Remote Play is meant to work on your WLAN, not over the internet. ALso you'll be able to literally watch your energy drain while you're doing this. A constant wireless connection with that much data, you're good to game for 1 hour tops.
I think the bigger deal is that Sony are pushing the second screen. We know that you'll be able to access your PS4 from tablets and phones, not to play games but to always be connected to your PS4.
Microsoft are trying to get everyone onto one screen with the Xbone, but that isn't what is happening in the real world, people are out and about more, our lives mean we are not able to devout hours in front of our televisions any more, dads are no longer able to get access to the family TV as much, teenagers are not wanting to be tied to one device to access their content. You put your PS4 experience on your phones, tablets, PCs and Vita you are onto something. Microsoft are about 10 years behind the curve, this should have the direction for the original Xbox not a consumer product in 2013.
Maybe I should write PR for Sony or something >_>
Microsoft are trying to get everyone onto one screen with the Xbone, but that isn't what is happening in the real world, people are out and about more, our lives mean we are not able to devout hours in front of our televisions any more, dads are no longer able to get access to the family TV as much, teenagers are not wanting to be tied to one device to access their content. You put your PS4 experience on your phones, tablets, PCs and Vita you are onto something. Microsoft are about 10 years behind the curve, this should have the direction for the original Xbox not a consumer product in 2013.
Maybe I should write PR for Sony or something >_>
Sidewinder
Member
PdotMichael
Banned
Sure, only a small group would rather play PS4 games on a Vita than on a HDTV.
But it's a nice gimmick and you can play your PS4 games over the internet with your VITA.
Metalmurphy
Member
Ofcourse he can. I did it with the PSP. It's meant to be used over the WLAN AND internet.
Price: Wii U + 3DS << PS4 + Vita for the same functionalities
Games: Wii U + 3DS >> PS4 + Vita and I don't see this changing for at least 2 years
You can, it even worked with the PSP.
Again, it's not the same functionality.
Games are subjective.
NorthernAvengeR
Banned
That would be suicide for the Vita, unless they already plan on killing it off.
i'm thinking ps4 500g at 399, ps4 1T +vita at 599