EdwardTivrusky
Member
Same here and the same issue i have with MS.
Does No PS4 Eye mean the Dualshock 4 controller stops working?
E3 had better be an exercise in clarity and bullshitless knowledge transfer if MS or Sony want me to get hyped.
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Eurogamer: Sony mandates Vita Remote Play for all PS4 games that don't use camera.
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Same here and the same issue i have with MS.
Does No PS4 Eye mean the Dualshock 4 controller stops working?
E3 had better be an exercise in clarity and bullshitless knowledge transfer if MS or Sony want me to get hyped.
Sickboy007
Member
This basically condemns the camera to irrelevance, though.
Can you imagine first party games without Vita Remote Play? Gamers would be pissed.
Can you imagine first party games without Vita Remote Play? Gamers would be pissed.
I used to never see the appeal of handhelds, but after recently picking up a Wii U in the HMV deal, I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying off-tv play (SMW and long dumps FTW).
Was already getting a PS4 day one, and seeing as I already have PS+ this news is sorely tempting me into getting a Vita.
Was already getting a PS4 day one, and seeing as I already have PS+ this news is sorely tempting me into getting a Vita.
It's looking like if your buying a next gen system you will have some sort of camera sitting on your TV or monitor.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Don't want a camera Sony, please don't make me pay extra.
BennBeckman
Banned
sounds like it. Like Wii u for PS4 but it requires the purchase of a handheld.
especially if you can dual boot into android, it would be a pretty awesome tablet, assuming decent rez...doubt we'll see it though.
I really don't think so. The types of games played using a camera and the types of games played on a handheld device seem like entirely disjunct sets.
Callibretto
Member
the camera is used for playstation move games and stuff.
camera being part of the bundle would mean that it's really needed by the controller right? because if not they would just bundle it with a game that needs the camera.
well the vita has a back touchpad, i imagine they would use that
well the vita has a back touchpad, i imagine they would use that
It will give a whole new meaning to "That Demon jumping on me just made me crap myself"
I wonder what effort developers have to put in for this? Minimal I would think.
Perhaps it'll make support for the camera a consideration. If remote play proves to be popular and there's sales data to confirm that it boosts software sales could it prompt developers not to support the camera?
Perhaps it'll make support for the camera a consideration. If remote play proves to be popular and there's sales data to confirm that it boosts software sales could it prompt developers not to support the camera?
wapplew
Member
Ya,and ditch the memory card go for micro sd, go all digital download, who doesn't want a
7" andriod tablet that can play Vita library?
With the four corners of front and rear touch there are more than enough pressure points to cover the buttons. What? Nobody said it has to work well.
StealthGoblin
Banned
and voice recognition and UI navigation.
Why? The only thing that is needed is that the game works without the camera. If the camera is included but not required to use the system it could just be something you can check in the game options. "Use eyetoy features yes/no". Remoteplay will only work while set to no.
Betta Lines
Member
I disagree, this is a big deal.
Well, that depends. If the camera is mandatory to run the PS4 i´m not going to buy it and if it´s not i´m not going to use it.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Sony, given the piracy on Android.
A 7" Vita is just a stupid idea imho, it's a portable gaming device, not a laptop gaming device.
They still need to compress the video stream.
LorDjidane
Member
Same here. She's feeling loved and can't wait for the E3 to begin.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Great potential, I'd be worried about the total cost to new owners though (PS4 + PSVita).
Doctor Decimate
Member
The problem I have with features like this, and with all the indie ports and multi platform titles, is that none of this convinces me to spend the money to purchase this system. They are basically features for people who ALREADY OWN Vitas. I'm sure it'll convince a few people, but portability and this streaming are not enough to justify the purchase of a new system.
giving options to consumers is stupid? ok then. Btw, 7" isn't non-portable.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
it's funny because it's true
Someone doesn't play Singstar.
Aren't they already always compressing a video stream? Or do you think they store the last 20 minutes or whatever you have access to with the share button uncompressed?
To be fair, games that use the analog stick buttons for anything important already suck inherently
(Seriously, I always though those were a terrible idea. And we can blame Sony for it!)
Also a control input difference. The one thing that kind of turns me off of Vita Remote Play is that all the triggers are inevitably going to be mapped to the rear touch pad. That's kind of going to suck for people who prefer feedback. Also lack of clickable sticks could be an issue assuming games use them.
Of course this all sounds great otherwise.
Aye, I know it should be awesome thanks to the faster Wifi and the video encoding, I just need to see it to believe it. If it works as well as it should, it'll be the best thing about the next generation for me.
It really isn't the same thing as the Wii-U, despite appearing similar on the surface. Off-TV play isn't mandatory and has some serious range issues.
You're right, completely forgot about this feature.
Sickboy007
Member
I meant that with irrelevance. We're not going to see big games that use it in any meaningful way, eg any way that could not be replicated by a controller. It's going to be like the Move, except bundled with every console.
Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Another issue is that this could potentially make the PSEye defunct, I imagine more developers (and consumers) would choose remote play over any camera functionality.
To be fair, games that use the analog stick buttons for anything important already suck inherently
(Seriously, I always though those were a terrible idea)
I respectfully disagree. FPS games that use L3 to Sprint are great. Vita may have the ability to play Call of Duty/Battlefield 4 via Remote Play but do I really want to with gimped controls? Nope.
Bullshit. It's a gimmick for Sony as well, it's not their main selling point. Making it a main selling point and selling an underpowered machine would make it bad as well. Your comparison stinks.
Anyway, on topic. It's worth nothing if it's not lagfree.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Does the Vita have L2/R2 equivalents? Analogue sticks clicking?
peacemountain
Member
Interesting read, especially the below quoted (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-sony-mandates-vita-remote-play-for-ps4-games) phrases.
Looking forward to the end of 2013!
Looking forward to the end of 2013!
AbandonedTrolley
Member
No it's not, but how many people complain about multiple SKU's ? Upping the screen size without upping the resolution would make the games look worse. Upping the resolution would require extra power under the hood creating a disparity between the two models.
Also given that people complain about the price of the Vita now, can you imagine the price Sony would be charging for a Vita with a 7" OLED screen?
No current solution by games is using the back touch screen.
No and no.
Like I said, wii u does it very well, so it is possible.