Nintendo doesn't even force games to be playable when docked so the idea that they're forcing publishers to price their products a certain way is laughable.
Yeah, I don't buy that narrative whatsoever.
Nintendo doesn't even force games to be playable when docked so the idea that they're forcing publishers to price their products a certain way is laughable.
But these shops can also sell digital games. This is stupid.But why would a Nintendo Switch game cost more on the Nintendo eShop? Digital games, after all, are just a download. There's no need to factor in costly cart manufacture with an eShop game. Well, we've heard that Nintendo's policy is that Switch eShop games should cost the same as their physical versions, in a bid to keep bricks and mortar shops on-side. A shop such as GAME, for example, is unlikely to go all in on a Switch game if you can download it for half the price instead.
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For those of you who didn't bother to read the article:
Eh? It's very much a thing. Games on PSN & Xbox are priced so high because publishers still need to sell big numbers in physical form and lots of big chains wouldn't take their games if digital was 10-15$ cheaper on the offset.Yea this reads like they just want to put the blame elsewhere and not place responsibility on the publisher for Rime. This shit ain't foolin no one, if they want to charge 10 more for their physical copy then fine but your price parity bullshit for digital is not a thing.
It is an issue and one that is very different between 3DS and Switch.
What are you suggesting the difference in cost for publishing digital only software on 3DS and Switch is?
Nintendo doesn't even force games to be playable when docked so the idea that they're forcing publishers to price their products a certain way is laughable.
I don't remember this being the case with cross platform physical PS4/Vita games. Or does Nintendo charge much higher than Sony for their cartridges?
Who is going to a store for a digital game? The whole point is that you download at home.But these shops can also sell digital games. This is stupid.
There's no relation between those two things and I'm sure you know it. That's like saying "the Switch system isn't doing physical harm to any customers so the idea that the Joy-Con connection quality is not working well is laughable".
Sure it's more expensive, but not 10 bucks more expensive. It's a chance to optimize profits at the expense of customers, that's all this is.
Yup. I've said this in threads in 2016. I fully expect games on cartridges to be more expensive than disc. Blu-ray were already under $1-2 per disc back in early 2010s. They're probably less than a dollar now.For those of you who didn't bother to read the article:
Who is going to a store for a digital game? The whole point is that you download at home.
No, that's comparison is dumb.
The two things I mention are specifically Nintendo influencing third party releases when all real evidence suggests they take a very hands off approach, for better or worse.
huh? Who's Matt?
Search through Matt's posting history
http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-has+been+heroes,28zu0
How can Has Been Heroes do it for $19.99 then?
http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-has+been+heroes,28zu0
How can Has Been Heroes do it for $19.99 then?
Maybe Switch is so easy to port that it was almost costlesshttp://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-has+been+heroes,28zu0
How can Has Been Heroes do it for $19.99 then?
Me. They are cheaper than on those online storefronts. Just got L.A. Noire for free whereas Steam still charges 30 EUR. Same with Nintendo eShop codes, got some nice discounts for those too.
There's still no relation between either. Nintendo didn't enforce the use of certain system features on DS either. Yet they set DSiWare prices. Just because A is happening, it doesn't mean that B cannot happen. Your post was thus, sorry to say, bullshit.
Possible factors
- Smaller cart than RIME
- Richer publisher who is prepared to eat the cost/profit
- Or they looked on NeoGAF and saw that it's just greed that puts prices up
Dsiware was nearly a decade ago and Nintendo specifically moved away from that. So no, not bullshit.
Especially considering Reggie flat out said it.
Nintendo doesn't even force games to be playable when docked so the idea that they're forcing publishers to price their products a certain way is laughable.
Smaller cart? Bigger print run? Could be multiple reasons.
People trading in stuff, for one.Who is going to a store for a digital game? The whole point is that you download at home.
According to BoI devs cost of manufacturing of physical copies + manual = 4 dollars.
Right.
Or maybe it's because he's an American that thinks they are the only place in the world that exists. Where'd that go?
I'm UK, Has Been Heroes doesn't look like its get a physical release over here on any platform
If Nintendo employees read Neogaf, the world would be better.
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One of my jobs a long time ago was to manage the ordering of Nintendo cartridges for a big publisher, which at the time was N64 and Gameboy Color. The cost of the cartridge is not the whole story at all and I doubt anything has really changed.
When you order the carts they are made in Japan, I'm assuming the same is true for the Switch. Which means you have to pay for shipping of those carts from Japan to the US/Europe. BUT, you have to use the shipping company Nintendo owns and their prices are not competitive. Same goes for the printed parts, manuals, boxes. You have to use Nintendo's printer and they are not cheap. Also factor in that there is a minimum order you have to buy from Nintendo and you see all the costs add up ontop of the cartridge price at BOM level so tax ext are added onto that.
Compared to the other format holders, they provide you with a regional disc duplication plant and you might be able to choose your own disc replicator. Like I said, this was a long time ago and things might have changed but Nintendo's gonna Nintendo and rinse profit out of every step of the process which means the consumer is eventually picking up the tab.
Keeping parity with retail costs is just a bullshit excuse.
https://www.gamestop.ie/Nintendo Switch/Games/62049/has-been-heroes
Exclusive to Gamestop.
Interesting stuff, if completely outdated and potentially incorrect relating to modern practices.
One of my jobs a long time ago was to manage the ordering of Nintendo cartridges for a big publisher, which at the time was N64 and Gameboy Color. The cost of the cartridge is not the whole story at all and I doubt anything has really changed.
When you order the carts they are made in Japan, I'm assuming the same is true for the Switch. Which means you have to pay for shipping of those carts from Japan to the US/Europe. BUT, you have to use the shipping company Nintendo owns and their prices are not competitive. Same goes for the printed parts, manuals, boxes. You have to use Nintendo's printer and they are not cheap. Also factor in that there is a minimum order you have to buy from Nintendo and you see all the costs add up ontop of the cartridge price at BOM level so tax ext are added onto that. Also the carts sizes are fixed so if your game is just over the steps in cart size you could be buying the next biggest cart you need with wasted space. Disc games are fixed no matter how much space you need unless you get a multi disc title.
Compared to the other format holders, they provide you with a regional disc duplication plant and you might be able to choose your own disc replicator. Like I said, this was a long time ago and things might have changed but Nintendo's gonna Nintendo and rinse profit out of every step of the process which means the consumer is eventually picking up the tab.
Keeping parity with retail costs is just a bullshit excuse.
That isn't the UK
but thanks for showing in Europe at least it'll cost the same on all platforms as well
Gamestop UK is part of Gamestop Ireland.That isn't the UK
but thanks for showing in Europe at least it'll cost the same on all platforms as well
He's a developer who posts on GAF.????????????????????????