beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
sick of hearing about miyamoto, make new i.p.'s nintendo (interesting peoples)
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Ever wonder how much Miyamoto and Iwata make?
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mentalfloss
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Miyamoto likes making the games he makes. I haven't come across any instances where he's expressed that he's been creatively limited. And I'm pretty sure he would ask for more money if he wasn't satisfied with the position he's in.
But yes, I'm sure both Miyamoto and the industry is suffering incredibly right now because he doesn't have oodles of cash dedicated to creating new properties.
But yes, I'm sure both Miyamoto and the industry is suffering incredibly right now because he doesn't have oodles of cash dedicated to creating new properties.
bunbun777 said:Nintendo is doing it right, they are not accumulating debt-- in that sense they are legitimately too big to fail, not in the failing context of what I originally was responding to.
You need to stop using this phrase in reference to Nintendo. You're using it outside of its usual context and so it's causing confusion. They're not 'too big to fail,' they're 'too profitable to need help.'
Glass Soldier
Banned
beelzebozo said:sick of hearing about miyamoto, make new i.p.'s nintendo (interesting peoples)
I'd rather have them revive some... if you know what I mean...
slidewinder said:I mean, he could put all his money in a trust whose proceeds go directly to Nintendo as long as Miyamoto is working there and doing so in a position commensurate with his talents.
But EVEN Miyamoto as a free-lancing to-be studio head going to the big, existent non-Nintendo publishers is just sooooo much worse a situation to contemplate than Miyamoto with $200 million of his own money and a really well-funded, super-talented studio to show for it.
It's just kind of... icky... for somebody of such stature and achievement to not have a TRULY independent stake in the game.
Miyamoto is not someone who wants to be independent. His talent went into creating the face of Nintendo, and that is the reward itself. What you do not seem to get is when you have made a company into a success, there are other options beside "going the independent route, after cashing in". He can, you know...continue being there, and do what he loves to do: creating games, assisting in creating games, etc.
You think of money as some kind of reward for enduring. While for a lot of people, it is obviously is that, but for creative people, it is just a means for not starving and providing stuff to your family while you create games/music/film. Or at least this is how it should be.
slidewinder said:I mean, he could put all his money in a trust whose proceeds go directly to Nintendo as long as Miyamoto is working there and doing so in a position commensurate with his talents.
But EVEN Miyamoto as a free-lancing to-be studio head going to the big, existent non-Nintendo publishers is just sooooo much worse a situation to contemplate than Miyamoto with $200 million of his own money and a really well-funded, super-talented studio to show for it.
It's just kind of... icky... for somebody of such stature and achievement to not have a TRULY independent stake in the game.
Why? What are you basing any of this on?
When has there ever been the slightest indication that Miyamoto was unhappy in his job or that he felt he needed more money or freedom?
Miyamoto could walk out of his job and have any company from Apple to Microsoft throw tens of millions of dollars at him. But he doesn't want to.
You're just projecting your own shallow desires onto the situation.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Glass Soldier said:I'd rather have them revive some... if you know what I mean...
you mean you want them to reboot yokoi, like they did with kid icarus
slidewinder
Banned
No, I don't. And really, nothing I've written this sub-thread should suggest that.V_Arnold said:You think of money as some kind of reward for enduring.
I don't have a problem with that, generally speaking, and, again, I don't think I've written anything that should make you think otherwise.V_Arnold said:for creative people, it is just a means for not starving and providing stuff to your family while you create games/music/film. Or at least this is how it should be.
Edit: One more thing, I guess, since it seems that it might be necessary: Did I forget to point out that Miyamoto is not a painter? I know I mentioned, obliquely, that he is not young anymore.
Glass Soldier
Banned
beelzebozo said:you mean you want them to reboot yokoi, like they did with kid icarus
Yeah, give him lasers and claws!
mentalfloss
Banned
slidewinder said:No, I don't. And really, nothing I've written this sub-thread should suggest that.
slidewinder said:It's just kind of... icky... for somebody of such stature and achievement to not have a TRULY independent stake in the game.
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Segata Sanshiro
Member
I actually think if Miyamoto were ousted from Nintendo tomorrow, he would probably just shrug his shoulders, grab his drawing pad, and retire to a life of sitting in his garden drawing pictures of butts with moustaches. Quite happily, I might add.
slidewinder
Banned
I know my edit of my last post was time-stamped after this one of yours, but: yeah, probably.Segata Sanshiro said:I actually think if Miyamoto were ousted from Nintendo tomorrow, he would probably just shrug his shoulders, grab his drawing pad, and retire to a life of sitting in his garden drawing pictures of butts with moustaches. Quite happily, I might add.
Segata Sanshiro said:I actually think if Miyamoto were ousted from Nintendo tomorrow, he would probably just shrug his shoulders, grab his drawing pad, and retire to a life of sitting in his garden drawing pictures of butts with moustaches. Quite happily, I might add.
I don't know... It's hard to really come to a complete stop work-wise when you've been doing it for so long. Retirement can be hell on some people.
PumpkinPie
Banned
I love Miyamoto, he seems like such a nice and normal person.
7Th said:You didn't answer my question about at which point direction ends and management begins. :/
I may be misunderstanding what you meant by your question but I'd define direction as the general dealings of the organisation of the company and where the company should be doing.
And managing would be more micro on a per project basis or something like that.
I mean kinda like how the difference between micro and macro.
Now it obviously only works on big structures as everything is kinda muddled if we're talking of a startup with 9 people for example.
Then again I'm not quite happy with that definition of direction either and its difference with management.
I guess I could study the subject more seriously.
Vinci said:I don't know... It's hard to really come to a complete stop work-wise when you've been doing it for so long. Retirement can be hell on some people.
True, I know I can't take more than 1 week of holyday before being incredibly bored, luckily they're planning on making us retire by 70 if not more, I don't think I'll ever retire (not that I'd want to, there's so much stuff still to do) :lol
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Well, that's why he draws the butts with moustaches.Vinci said:I don't know... It's hard to really come to a complete stop work-wise when you've been doing it for so long. Retirement can be hell on some people.
Warm Machine
Member
Bonuses and interest free non payback loans every year for Miyamoto is probably the case. The guy is a multi millionaire, don't fool yourself.
Kotaku said:In 2009, Miyamoto's salary was ¥126 million ($1.4 million), making him currently the second highest paid Nintendo employee. His base salary last year was ¥60 million ($678,000), which is the second highest base salary in the company. The average salary for execs at Japanese companies is around ¥25 million ($280,000) a year.
So much for your hero, Miyamoto, eh gaf? :smug