They overlap is not even close to the same. Literally no top SF4 players will be playing the game anymore.
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Evolution 2016 lineup revealed, includes Pokken, doesn't include Street Fighter IV
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They overlap is not even close to the same. Literally no top SF4 players will be playing the game anymore.
sixteen-bit
Member
LAN.
It has LAN. That's how they're running it. Two monitors, two Wii Us, two copies of Pokken.
Melee and smash 4 folks are two different groups of folks and two separate communities.
Banana Aeon
Member
I haven't heard a single positive thing about it.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Considering that the game releases in March and that Wii U to Wii U LAN support is confirmed, the console version will be the go-to.
Which means you haven't heard anything.
ahahahhaha
you can't be serious. THERE IS VERY LITTLE CROSSOVER OF PLAYERS BETWEEN SMASH 4 AND MELEE.
Most SFIV players are moving to SFV.
entremet
Member
Not comparable since Capcom's influence is a much bigger here historically.
Basically, Capcom wanted SFV to shine.
NormalFish
Banned
Doxxed LMAO
Capcom still has more characters in games though (4/9).
Primethius
Banned
Well, none now that USFIV isn't going to be at Evo. Kind of a ridiculous question to ask.
If it was at Evo? I'm pretty sure plenty of pros would touch it. 8 years of practice just doesn't go away because you picked up the sequel. And USFIV would have more entrants at Evo then the majority of that list if it was there this year.
People really tripping over SF4 not being there? It won't even be worth it. The new hotness will be SF5 and all the top players will be practicing and training for that anyway. Not many people would be as focused on it with SF5 out and you'd probably get a crappier tournament overall.
Are they? If they are, is it just because tournaments are replacing 4 with 5? If Melee ceased to have a tournament scene, would most of the Melee community just migrate to Smash 4? I think it's a tad bit ridiculous that there supposedly isn't room to support 2 street fighter games. It was just as shitty when 4 came out and TOs stopped supporting 3rd Strike.
Evo is just bowing down to Sony/Capcom's will, can't take away the spotlight from SFV! Man, didn't even survive one year of SFV.
Not gonna lie it does look boring. I think JWong said he liked it though, he might compete for like 5 games that guy
PezDispenser
Banned
Still crazy, imagine going back to 2012 and posting that in an evo thread lol
Checkmark GG, X out MKX and I agree
Also maybe put some kind of a halfway point between a check and a line for Smash 4
Also I agree Pokken is a moneyhat but it might be potentially cool. KI was a moneyhat too and that game had a cool showing last year though I still don't care a whole lot about it.
NormalFish
Banned
Street Fighter players are moving because they're SF players, not USFIV players. Melee players play Melee. Not Smash as a whole. This is one of the many reasons the game's out of the ordinary.
No, Melee players wouldn't play Smash 4.
Aaronrules380
Member
I really doubt it. And again, for every player who played both Smash games last year, there were around 4 who only played one or the other
Banana Aeon
Member
And what have you heard? I'm interested. The Pokemon fan in me wants this game to be good, but it looks like utter garbage, and nothing I've heard disputes that.
Dark Ninja
Member
If only they had more space. Id like to see one of those Naruto games in there.
Well that's an unexpectedly cool feature to include in this day and age.
But really I don't think anyone plans to really take that game seriously. That's like a Naruto or DragonBall Z game getting in.
Once again, for all the unbelievers in this thread:
I. WAS. RIGHT.
Who thought Nintendo were too cheap to subsidize Pokken tourneys when they did the same thing for Splatoon last year? Oh ye of little faith.
I'm also pleased as punch that USF4 got the boot. Out with the old, in with the new, I say.
I. WAS. RIGHT.
Who thought Nintendo were too cheap to subsidize Pokken tourneys when they did the same thing for Splatoon last year? Oh ye of little faith.
I'm also pleased as punch that USF4 got the boot. Out with the old, in with the new, I say.
If Melee ceased to exist, the community would probably just dissolve rather than migrate. Most Melee players don't like Smash 4, to put it mildly. There are some exceptions of those who play both, but they're very few.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
And what have you heard?
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Wow. UMvC3 again? Pokken is really boring and Tekken 7 isn't even out. Other than that all others were expected.
socksfelloff
Member
Mike "next question " Ross.
Great lineup. Glad to see Genesis 3 setting the bar for all future tournaments.
Marvel has roots in evo as deep as street fighter. If the tables were flipped we would still have a SF game there no matter how out dated it is.
Great lineup. Glad to see Genesis 3 setting the bar for all future tournaments.
Marvel has roots in evo as deep as street fighter. If the tables were flipped we would still have a SF game there no matter how out dated it is.
oh man that's beautiful
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Anyone got a list of each system for each game?
Yea, no. Even if 4 was in 5 would be where the money is. People like Daigo and Momochi are going to be grinding SfV religiously, 8 hours a day regradless. If Western players wanna keep up, when are they going to playing sf4? Let me know.
entremet
Member
If the money is there why not? Nintendo should really push for it. Pot bonus, etc.
skLaFarebear
Member
Ultimax died for Pokken
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;_;
Chezzymann
Member
The mechanics in melee are waay different than smash 4 to the point where the two communities just arent compatible and have completely different sets of top players. At least from what the announcer guy in this stream said, the transition from SF4 to SF5 seems much smoother (i know nothing about the games)
FRom my impressions it plays like Battle Arena Toshinden on the Wii
The melee community kept their scene alive for all these years before they got EVO slots. I doubt they would just move over to Smash 4.
There are some outliers who drop-in and drop-out, but if USF4 and SF5 ran the same tournament it would be the same damn top players in both without question. I don't think his explanation in unfair: It'd be a 2000 man tournament with no real reason to justify the expense and hastle of running that. They could barely manage USF4 pools when it was the undisputed main event game.
New game kills the old. Melee is the only real outlier.
Banana Aeon
Member
That it plays like a poor man's Storm game.
commanderpepper
Member
I am very satisfied with the EVO lineup. I can't wait.