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PS2 500+ exclusive games
PS3 170+ exclusive games
PS4 48 exclusive games
PS5 23 exclusive games

There's the problem. It wouldn't be worth it.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

PS2 500+ exclusive games
PS3 170+ exclusive games
PS4 48 exclusive games
PS5 23 exclusive games

There's the problem. It wouldn't be worth it.

Exclusives only matter for Nintendo to still exist.

Sony and Xbox is just a pick your brand of choice at this point.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

- Ramgate prices will eventually stabailize by then.

Very Unlikely. 2028 at the earliest, IMO. And there's no guarantee that will even happen.

The other problem is that if Sony gives up their TSMC N3P wafer allocation, figure it'd take some time to get back in line again. Among other things. So if Sony decides to not release until RAM prices fall, it will be some time to get things moving again to support a launch.

So the options are:

1. Do the launch as is at $899 or $999 and just accept that the launch volume won't be that much. Then cut prices if RAM prices fall.
2. Spend 100 mill or so and redesign the PS6's chip downward (and perhaps make an upward one too, just in case). But that would mean it wouldn't be until 2028 at the earliest and you'd have to commit to it now.
3. Delay until RAM prices fall and release like 18 months later.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Very Unlikely. 2028 at the earliest, IMO. And there's no guarantee that will even happen.

The other problem is that if Sony gives up their TSMC N3P wafer allocation, figure it'd take some time to get back in line again. Among other things. So if Sony decides to not release until RAM prices fall, it will be some time to get things moving again to support a launch.

So the options are:

1. Do the launch as is at $899 or $999 and just accept that the launch volume won't be that much. Then cut prices if RAM prices fall.
2. Spend 100 mill or so and redesign the PS6's chip downward (and perhaps make an upward one too, just in case). But that would mean it wouldn't be until 2028 at the earliest and you'd have to commit to it now.
3. Delay until RAM prices fall and release like 18 months later.

- They are not releasing PS6 at those prices.

- They are not going to redesign the main SoC.

- It's less about the price of ram that would cause a delay, but the amount they can purchase.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

- They are not releasing PS6 at those prices.

- They are not going to redesign the main SoC.

- It's less about the price of ram that would cause a delay, but the amount they can purchase.

The RAM probally costs at least $400 now. They would need to do a PS3-style subsidy for $699, seriously.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

The RAM probally costs at least $400 now. They would need to do a PS3-style subsidy for $699, seriously.

PC component prices for customers are not even close to what Sony would pay as Sony gets discounts from bulk orders.

I feel like this has to be repeated every new generation and people never learn.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Taking into accoount crossgen will be easy till 2030 and if sony postpone to 2029 we still get same hw there is 0 reason not to release in 2027.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Taking into accoount crossgen will be easy till 2030 and if sony postpone to 2029 we still get same hw there is 0 reason not to release in 2027.

People are absolutely ignorant to even consider the possibility that Sony would scrap their current designs and start from scratch. It takes years of R&D for a new console generation and Mark Cerny is already at least 3 - 4 yrs in the PS6 project.

 

[Trilobit]

No, I'm just not someone who thinks the sky is falling because of the ramgate situation.

It's called RAMageddon, you downplayer!

 

[SegaSnatcher]

It's called RAMageddon, you downplayer!

I'm out of touch with such modern lingo, please forgive me.

 

[midnightAI]

And Sony is fine with it?
It's not like they are losing lot if people stay on PS5 - even in this generation crossgen period is long, even though it imply some technical difficulties - no SSD and no RT make dev harder. PS6 much close to PS5 in terms of architecture meaning making crossgen even easier


We are talking about potential scenario what will be if current slump continue/escalates and even with proper pricing (i.e. some subsidy) price will be unreasonable high
I too doesn't expect it to be that extreme, but we never know

Well, no, Sony won't be fine with it, there is only a finite amount of consoles they can sell without people upgrading. Let's say 150mill consoles and that's it. If people then stay on PS5 that's a problem, they need people to upgrade or their console sales stagnate. Even Nintendo did this, they was about to reach critical mass so they released the next console. As it is Sony may have to go a year or two with low (in comparison) sales depending on when PS6 finally gets released if it's much beyond 2028.

 

[Felessan]

Well, no, Sony won't be fine with it, there is only a finite amount of consoles they can sell without people upgrading. Let's say 150mill consoles and that's it. If people then stay on PS5 that's a problem, they need people to upgrade or their console sales stagnate. Even Nintendo did this, they was about to reach critical mass so they released the next console. As it is Sony may have to go a year or two with low (in comparison) sales depending on when PS6 finally gets released if it's much beyond 2028.

No they don't need it right away, it's misconception
They earn as much on last gen as they do on current gen. Sony are not in business of selling consoles - consoles sold at loss, it's a tool to reach resulting ecosystem. Its secondary sales those matter - software, accessories, subscriptions etc. and they are there on pastgen too. The only drawback is hazardous development and slow implementation of next-gen features that in turn stale next-next gen. Though gap tech wise is much smaller this time from devs point of view.
But those are long term factors that can reasonably easy wait 2-3 years - they do it for this gen on covid shortages and they for sure will do for next gen until situation normalize
We are 4 years into generation and games only now start to have proper implementation of next gen features (probably due to complexity of them mixing in in old engines but whatever). Nobody died from this - PS5 is only 2-3% behind PS4. So if adoption will be slow in PS6 as well - most will treat it as "previously seen pattern" and will not bother

 

[Lukin1978]

Ps5 pro is already $959 in Canada and that's way too much I can afford but why would I?
I'd stick with Nintendo and emulation at that point.

 

[Hudo]

A console should not be a thousand fucking Dollars.

 

[SirTerry-T]

You don't see the problem of spending $1000 on a plastic box to play video games on?
FFS, our future as a species really is fucked if that's the case...