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[Kraftwerk]

I love the VS threads we have from time to time, where we attempt to determine who beats who in fictional universes. Seems that we never come to a conclusion due to comics having so many different arcs, and power-levels are dependant on which writer is in control.

I love reading about the different characters and powers, even if I do not read their full stories.

I came across Franklin Richards, and after some googling regarding his powers, it seems that he is basically God. He can warp and manipulate reality i.e anything he wants, any damn thing he thinks about he can make real. Such a fucked up and broken power. He can create and destroy galaxies and even universes and control everything in them. Galactus is his herald!

I am new to this side of comics, but is there even a debate about this? He IS the most powerful mutant, and hell, the most powerful character in comics aye?

"Human Mutant... Anomaly. Beyond Omega classification. Again."

"Reality distortion/Universal shaper/Galactic constant... "

"Danger"

"Danger"

"Doom"

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Who is the rubber guy?

 

[OnPoint]

I hate characters like this because they allow writers to erase and ignore limits.

 

[botty]

He's just a rip off of Anthony Fremont.

 

[Infinite]

I lost it when he basically put Galactus in a pokeball

 

[Viewt]

You should really read Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic Four run to get the full effect of seeing Franklin go from depowered to godlike again. That's where a couple of those panels are taken from.

As for whether he's the most powerful character in Marvel Comics... maybe. Even Celestials are scared of him and they're pretty high up on the food chain. He might not be quite in the same class as the abstracts (Eternity, for example) or The Living Tribunal, though.

 

[Varjet]

Sounds really boring.

 

[Pandaman]

She's an official Nanny, so im pretty sure she could send him to his room if she needed to.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Yeah, basically. But I don't really think of him when people talk about strength levels because he is essentially a god.

The recent Thor thread was interesting to watch because I never really had a grasp on how strong he was either. Someone like Hulk is just adaptable, he gets madder and his strength meets the challenge in front him.

 

[ReiGun]

Nay. Believe it or not, there are people even in the Marvel Universe that could eat Franklin's lunch. Not very many of them, mind you, but they're out there.

Franklin is probably the most powerful character that makes regular appearances in comics, though.

I hate characters like this because they allow writers to erase and ignore limits.

Thing is, Franklin's entire life has been about limits. Reed is always trying to limit his powers or forbid him from using them because of just how dangerous they are.

 

[Slayven]

As soon as i finish this donut. i am going to drop knowledge

 

[Angelus Errare]

Cyclops is more powerful because

 

[SteveWinwood]

My only fantastic four knowledge comes from the pilot for the 60s or 70s cartoon that I had on vhs tape and venture brothers.

So I have no clue.

 

[massoluk]

Kyle Rayner's Ion was also pretty rad.

 

[Slayven]

There are people jsut as poweriful, or even more powerful like this dude right here.

His power is to copy the powers of people around him and add plus one.

Look to where he eventually got.

The LT, Eternity, and The Celestials had to come together like Voltron to trick him, not beat him, but trick him into defeat.

 

[SteveWinwood]

where do you get all these pictures from

 

[Mindwipe]

As for whether he's the most powerful character in Marvel Comics... maybe. Even Celestials are scared of him and they're pretty high up on the food chain. He might not be quite in the same class as the abstracts (Eternity, for example) or The Living Tribunal, though.

Yeah. He's probably the most powerful character to have a regular role in a book, but he's below The Living Tribunal.

 

[Hot Coldman]

so basically he's Haruhi Suziyama

 

[Currygan]

comicvine 2.0?

yeah, TLT + Protege might be the ansa

 

[Angelus Errare]

Superman can take him.

 

[entremet]

I lost it when he basically put Galactus in a pokeball

What in the world?

 

[Slayven]

What in the world?

thats nothing. Legion put the whole universe in a box.

 

[ReiGun]

What in the world?

In the future, Galactus is Franklin's herald.

 

[Pandaman]

What in the world?

Galactus died fighting the mad celestials, old Franklin gave Galactus a portion of his/young franklins powers in order to revive him.

Galactus was pretty fond of not dying and became Franklins companion.

 

[TheTwelve]

Franklin Richards still operates under The One Above All.

Dr. Strange could probably deus ex machina a way to defeat Franklin if he ever lost it (and he will, since this is comics).

However, let's not forget She-Hulk. She's the only person who actually knows she's living in a comic. If knowledge = power, who is more powerful than her? =)

 

[Savitar]

Franklin as a kid or adult can be mind blowingly power.

The guy even created another earth and had all the heroes there during the whole Heroes Reborn event.

 

[Slayven]

The Big G has been worse.

 

[Suairyu]

The Big G has been worse.

I thought if Galactus died, the universe dies? (And then a new universe with another Galactus is born or something?)

 

[Slayven]

I thought if Galactus died, the universe dies? (And then a new universe with another Galactus is born or something?)

Each universe has their own Galactus. And that Galactus is not dead, jsut converted to work for Life.

 

[Archaix]

I thought if Galactus died, the universe dies? (And then a new universe with another Galactus is born or something?)

That Galactus is from Cancerverse, a reality where Captain Marvel beat cancer by killing death.

 

[Kraftwerk]

However, let's not forget She-Hulk. She's the only person who actually knows she's living in a comic. If knowledge = power, who is more powerful than her? =)

Could someone provide further details on this?

 

[Angelus Errare]

Franklin Richards still operates under The One Above All.

Dr. Strange could probably deus ex machina a way to defeat Franklin if he ever lost it (and he will, since this is comics).

However, let's not forget She-Hulk. She's the only person who actually knows she's living in a comic. If knowledge = power, who is more powerful than her? =)

Deadpool is well aware he's in a comic as are a few other lesser characters.

 

[Suairyu]

Each universe has their own Galactus. And that Galactus is not dead, jsut converted to work for Life.

Right, but even beyond that picture with Franklin making it so Galactus is not dead... Am I remembering wrong about the "Galactus death = universe death" thing?

 

[ToxicAdam]

Franklin is just a plot device for comic book writers.

Need a reason why villains would capture the Richards' son, yet not kill him? Give him unlimited powers.

Need a way to quickly create an alternate universe? Let the little boy make it.

 

[Slayven]

Right, but even beyond that picture with Franklin making it so Galactus is not dead... Am I remembering wrong about the "Galactus death = universe death" thing?

I don't know if that is a hard and fast rule, cause there has been a couple of timelines where Galactus is dead.

 

[Pandaman]

I don't know if that is a hard and fast rule, cause there has been a couple of timelines where Galactus is dead.

doesnt Reed have a dead future Galactus buried somewhere?

 

[Brera]

 

[Slayven]

doesnt Reed have a dead future Galactus buried somewhere?

Future Wolverine aka The Hooded Man has a dead Galactus.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Not Legion?

 

[Superior]

Nvm.

 

[slightconfuse]

living tribunal

 

[J10]

Franklin Richards still operates under The One Above All.

Dr. Strange could probably deus ex machina a way to defeat Franklin if he ever lost it (and he will, since this is comics).

However, let's not forget She-Hulk. She's the only person who actually knows she's living in a comic. If knowledge = power, who is more powerful than her? =)

Did you miss when Deadpool recently escaped the Marvel universe and killed the writers as they were writing the scene where he kills them? The meta-fiction is far more his schtick than anyone else's.

 

[Manmademan]

Nay. Believe it or not, there are people even in the Marvel Universe that could eat Franklin's lunch. Not very many of them, mind you, but they're out there.

Franklin is probably the most powerful character that makes regular appearances in comics, though.



Thing is, Franklin's entire life has been about limits. Reed is always trying to limit his powers or forbid him from using them because of just how dangerous they are.

Correct. Franklin is the most powerful HUMAN, but entities like the living tribunal are superior. Of course, something just killed the LT...


Edit: most powerful entity was the beyonder before they retconned him. No one is reckless enough to write a character that stupidly powerful again.

 

[Simplet]

These comics threads are really fascinating.

 

[Manu]

That Galactus is from Cancerverse, a reality where Captain Marvel beat cancer by killing death.

WHAT.

 

[Manmademan]

WHAT.

Lol. Yep. Its as insane as it sounds

 

[entremet]

thats nothing. Legion put the whole universe in a box.

In the future, Galactus is Franklin's herald.

Galactus died fighting the mad celestials, old Franklin gave Galactus a portion of his/young franklins powers in order to revive him.

Galactus was pretty fond of not dying and became Franklins companion.

Man, I need to get back into comics. Pretty crazy. I remember Franklin last from the Outslaught series.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Franklin Richards still operates under The One Above All.

Dr. Strange could probably deus ex machina a way to defeat Franklin if he ever lost it (and he will, since this is comics).

However, let's not forget She-Hulk. She's the only person who actually knows she's living in a comic. If knowledge = power, who is more powerful than her? =)

Deadpool knows hes in a comic book.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

living tribunal

Thank you, I've been working out lately.

Spoiler

But no, The One Above All is even more powerful. Even The Living Tribunal answers to him.

 

[zero_suit]

Pre-Retcon Beyonder>>>>>>>>>Franklin Richards