CecilRousso
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They are ok games, Not more, not less. I think most people who has played the X-Wing/Tie Fighter games feel that the Rogue Squadron series is a bit overrated.MaddenNFL64 said:
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Factor 5 now completely dead
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Andrex said:
I think EA cancelled their contract with them.... lol.
I played Xwing/Tie Fighter/Xwing v Tie etc extensively when I was young. Still have the 3.5" floppies somewhere
The Rogue games were still good. Not quite as awesome, but they were up there. And their presentation of the Star Wars universe was amazing.
ThatObviousUser
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StevieP said:
Sort of ironic, Nintendo wouldn't give them creative freedom so they left for EA, but then EA put the kibosh on their project too.
Edit- Seems like they've been hiring recently though.
http://www.unseen64.net/2009/04/08/thornado-n64-prototype/GrayFoxPL said:
http://www.unseen64.net/2008/04/08/thornado-gc-cancelled/
Chris Huelsbeck music sample for N64 is awesome.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Animal Wars shmanimal wars. Give me Rogue Squadron Trilogy damn it!
There are .de, .eu and .com domain registrations for factorv, the first two are done by Rene F. Henke (LinkedIn Profile) at a hosting provider in Cologne, Germany.
The .com domain is registrated on Cayman Islands and is probably for sale (they should go for it *g*)
I really hope they are working on a WiiU title, curious what they would be able to achieve.
The .com domain is registrated on Cayman Islands and is probably for sale (they should go for it *g*)
I really hope they are working on a WiiU title, curious what they would be able to achieve.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Goddamn! Those designs look awesome!
What could've been
ToyMachine228
Member
I actually think Animal Wars looked quite interesting. It's a shame Factor 5 went the way of the dodo. They never should have done Lair...
Quite interesting in a sense that it looks completely niche and no one would buy it? Yeah I agree.
Nope, for SCEA.
You are right, we should only buy CoDs and FIFAs year in and year out...
It certainly looks interesting, I get slight Hogs of War (PS1) vibes from it.
FactorY Media Production GmbH (Germany) is working together with TouchFactor and TechDevils now, all three are essentially Factor 5 teams. I don't know about the status of TechDevils right now as quite some of their employees moved over to TouchFactor.
If I remember correctly, TechDevils created the Netflix app for Wii.
FactorY Media Production GmbH is the official successor of Factor 5.
Got it from Stepstone, you can find jobs on there.
http://www.stepstone.de/stellenange...a-Production-GmbH--2067125-popup.html?cs=true
Raonak
Banned
Lair could have been cool but I don't feel they finished it. This gen is dangerous. One dud can kill a 20 year old developer.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Well that was a random bump. As someone who fucking loved the Rogue Squadron games (particularly the one that came out at the GameCube launch) I've always been really curious about Lair. RS2 was so good it's sort of hard to believe they could fuck up a similarly playing game too much.
Thanks for the completely random bump! I was reading back a page and saw a post about Gunlord. How the hell did I not hear about this game until now?! Looks like Turrican mixed with a bit of Shadow of the Beast's style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HohDEQpIRMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HohDEQpIRMw
Rodney McKay
Member
Never played it myself, but didn't you have to use the 6-axis shit to control your dragon? That's the kind of stuff that would get me to never play a game. I think it was patched in later, but it was too little too late.
LiquidSolid
Member
Maybe but Factor 5 is an awful example of this. Lair didn't kill them (Sony would've taken the hit for that), the 5 cancelled projects afterwards are what killed them (though one of those was a direct consequence of Lair, as Sony dropped them and ran).
The comments about Armature in this thread are interesting though, since we now know that they're not working with Sony or Capcom but with Konami. Though I guess they could be working with one of the others on the side.
Edit:
Uh, Sony was the publisher so what did you expect?
No way in hell. I spent an embarrassing amount of time playing the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games, and I would rank the Rogue Squadron series right alongside them as some of the best Star Wars games. Frankly it never occurred to me to compare them, considering how different their approaches to the subject matter are.
That said, I would rather see X-Wing/TIE Fighter make a return in the modern era. Why LucasArts refuses to give us even a downloadable multiplayer-only update is one of the great gaming mysteries.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Playing Rogue Squadron is what sold me on the GameCube. That series will always be special to me - not FreeSpace or X-Wing/TIE Fighter special, but still special. I think it started to go wrong when they strayed from the core appeal of the original game: it being a nicely balanced arcade-y space combat "sim" with good level design, as well as an excellent (borrowed) narrative structure. Then came the walking levels and, the worst overreach of all, Lair.
Well that and not working for Nintendo.
5 cancelled projects?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
According to the Wikipedia page, these were the canceled project:
Untitled project for Sony Computer Entertainment (PS3)
Superman (PS3/360/Wii)
A rumored Kid Icarus game (Wii)
Untitled flight project for Nintendo (Wii)
Untitled project for LucasArts
test_account
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Do you think that Nintendo would have hired them for another game if the prior wasnt very good and didnt sell well?
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
So can anybody tell me why they didn't reboot Turrican? A missed chance imo.
test_account
XP-39C²
Sorry, a bit bad wording from my side. What i ment is if they actually released a game that cost a lot of money to make, which Nintendo funded, then the game didnt end up selling very well. Or in other words, that the Lair situation happened, but this time Nintendo was the publisher instead of Sony.
It is all hypotethical at this point, but i'm not sure that many companies would do this, unless they (Factor 5) had come up with a really great idea for a new game that a publisher believed a lot in. If Lair had been a big commercial success, then Sony would probably hire them again for another project i think.
Nobody was willing to fund it. That's why we didn't get Thornado. Shortly before they died, they worked on a Turrican prototype:
Only Pilotwings for GCN, which was shelved. In addition, they worked on technology and they also created the Netflix app, even though that only happened at White Harvest, I suppose.
test_account
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I didnt mean to sound rude, sorry. I edited my previous post since i saw that my earlier question was a bit badly worded. You're right that it seems that Nintendo did hire them even after Lair didnt sell well (unless another publisher was hiring them for that the Wii only game?).
Cool, i didnt know about that they worked on that stuff
LiquidSolid
Member
I actually assumed the Lucasarts/Nintendo flight project was one and the same and was using the list found here instead:
- Unannounced Wii port of AAA 360/PS3-Game (cancelled), Electronic Arts Partners
- Unannounced Wii game (for release 2009), publisher non-disclosed
- Unannounced Wii game (for release 2009), publisher pending
- Superman (2008/cancelled), Brash Entertainment
And then added the SCE cancelled project to the count. But I guess if the Lucasarts/Nintendo flight projects were different, they could've had 6 cancelled projects instead of 5.
Hero of Legend
Member
Speaking of Left Field in that slide, are they still around? They last did Mayhen 3D for PS360 which was like a Derby MadWorld-style game and there's been nothing since.
Nitrobike could've been great if it had more time in the oven I think, it was a solid attempt at Excitebike 64 2.0, but yeah, it just didn't look polished enough.
Hopefully they'll made a sequel or yet another new bike game on Wii U.
Nitrobike could've been great if it had more time in the oven I think, it was a solid attempt at Excitebike 64 2.0, but yeah, it just didn't look polished enough.
Hopefully they'll made a sequel or yet another new bike game on Wii U.