No one is being serious with that suggestion. Calm down man.
Are you 100% sure about this?
No one is being serious with that suggestion. Calm down man.
It's not that simple. IBM is probably the only other company with the expertise and technology to build such eDRAM. And while they already manufacture the Wii U CPU and also have tons of experience with MCMs, moving a GPU from CMOS to SoI is apparently no easy task. But then again, they have at least two years to make it work.I don't see how it's a problem. Nintendo can just switch to have someone else make EDRAM. It will probably be 'slightly' different, but shouldn't have an impact.
I guess no one here knows that most consoles tend to switch various parts throughout their lifespan?
That hybrid nonsense needs to die. It's not going to happen, at least not within the next decade.That's ok, 3 years, that will make the 3ds 5 years ? Perfect for the hybrid
People that suggest Nintendo should drop the Wii U needs to wake up. The Wii U already cost at lot of R&D, dropping the Wii U to make another console now would just cost more R&D, which means the new console would have to sell fucking gangbusters to make up the R&D cost of not one but TWO consoles.
Are you guys insane? They'll take the loss with the Wii U, they can, it will get the games it needs eventually and best case scenario they can make the Wii U go above Gamecube LTD numbers.
Wow with the stock threads we get the gaf financial experts.
I can't wait for the manufacturing experts in this thread!
They should turn this around to work in their favor.
Announce that Wii U will be unavailable after current supply is exhausted. Then start releasing all of the big games, and announce whatever other big titles are hitting.
Wii U owners are now in an exclusive group who only have access to these games, as you can no longer buy one at a store.
Gamers start begging Nintendo to start U production again. Nintendo finally agrees after the announcement of Metroid Prime 4, Starfox Next, and FZeroU, but the price will go up because of manufacturing hurdles.
Nintendo rerelease a WiiU in late 2014 for $1,000 each, and desperate gamers buy them up to be in the exclusive Wii U club.
Nintendo posts record profits
Renesas had plans to get rid of all their fabs for quite some time now. TSMC supposedly has (or had) plans to buy them.I really don't see a huge problem here considering that they apparently have like 2 or 3 years time to figure out an alternative solution.
The situation is quite confusing though... Renesas is closing the only (?) own factory that is able to produce the WiiU's eDRAM? Wouldn't they close down older ones and/or close those that produce stuff that can also be produced in other fabs?
They should turn this around to work in their favor.
Announce that Wii U will be unavailable after current supply is exhausted. Then start releasing all of the big games, and announce whatever other big titles are hitting.
Wii U owners are now in an exclusive group who only have access to these games, as you can no longer buy one at a store.
Gamers start begging Nintendo to start U production again. Nintendo finally agrees after the announcement of Metroid Prime 4, Starfox Next, and FZeroU, but the price will go up because of manufacturing hurdles.
Nintendo rerelease a WiiU in late 2014 for $1,000 each, and desperate gamers buy them up to be in the exclusive Wii U club.
Nintendo posts record profits
so apparantly nintendo already announced that they will use TSMC to produce the parts from now on. also 3 of the 5 factories of the current subcontractor (renesas) will still be producing parts
http://www.nikkei.com/markets/compa...2E2E28E969C8A8EE1E1E4EAB3E1E3EAF2F2F2F2F2F2E2
i dont get how restructuring of a nintendo subcontractors is considered nintendoom (especially since nintendo is an independant company to renesas) but well..
I didn't realize the Wii U had chips inside of it...?
That hybrid nonsense needs to die. It's not going to happen, at least not within the next decade.
so apparantly nintendo already announced that they will use TSMC to produce the parts from now on. also 3 of the 5 factories of the current subcontractor (renesas) will still be producing parts
http://www.nikkei.com/markets/compa...2E2E28E969C8A8EE1E1E4EAB3E1E3EAF2F2F2F2F2F2E2
i dont get how restructuring of a nintendo subcontractors is considered nintendoom (especially since nintendo is an independant company to renesas) but well..
so apparantly nintendo already announced that they will use TSMC to produce the parts from now on. also 3 of the 5 factories of the current subcontractor (renesas) will still be producing parts
http://www.nikkei.com/markets/compa...2E2E28E969C8A8EE1E1E4EAB3E1E3EAF2F2F2F2F2F2E2
i dont get how restructuring of a nintendo subcontractors is considered nintendoom (especially since nintendo is an independant company to renesas) but well..
Smart business plan there. Buy a factory thats losing money to manufacture parts for your system thats losing money.
I don't find Nintendo in this news.
so apparantly nintendo already announced that they will use TSMC to produce the parts from now on. also 3 of the 5 factories of the current subcontractor (renesas) will still be producing parts
http://www.nikkei.com/markets/compa...2E2E28E969C8A8EE1E1E4EAB3E1E3EAF2F2F2F2F2F2E2
i dont get how restructuring of a nintendo subcontractors is considered nintendoom (especially since nintendo is an independant company to renesas) but well..
fewer fabrics = more expensive parts
That are bad news after all.
Couldn't Nintendo just buy the factory?
They probably have already made enough to last the lifetime of the console.
They should turn this around to work in their favor.
Announce that Wii U will be unavailable after current supply is exhausted. Then start releasing all of the big games, and announce whatever other big titles are hitting.
Wii U owners are now in an exclusive group who only have access to these games, as you can no longer buy one at a store.
Gamers start begging Nintendo to start U production again. Nintendo finally agrees after the announcement of Metroid Prime 4, Starfox Next, and FZeroU, but the price will go up because of manufacturing hurdles.
Nintendo rerelease a WiiU in late 2014 for $1,000 each, and desperate gamers buy them up to be in the exclusive Wii U club.
Nintendo posts record profits
If WiiU demand is not high they could make components for people to minimise the losses. I dunno, seems like a more secure option than having to rely on someone else and if the factory is closing anyway it might be affordable.Would that be a good investment? I'm sure Nintendo is losing enough with the Wii U as it is...
The day this happens will be the day there's a female president.... in Iraq
Damn, now Nintendo will have to upgrade it.
Haha, this. They'll probably have a whole bunch of spares left over too.Given the speed of Wii U sales I figure they have enough components for the next few years.
I'm trying to understand what the significance of this is. Or is this another opportunity for schadenfreude?
so apparantly nintendo already announced that they will use TSMC to produce the parts from now on. also 3 of the 5 factories of the current subcontractor (renesas) will still be producing parts
http://www.nikkei.com/markets/compa...2E2E28E969C8A8EE1E1E4EAB3E1E3EAF2F2F2F2F2F2E2
i dont get how restructuring of a nintendo subcontractors is considered nintendoom (especially since nintendo is an independant company to renesas) but well..
Given this:
...it's not significant at all, once we got further clarification.
Maybe the end result will be that it's slightly more expensive to manufacture the Wii U, but that's about it. Nintendo can re-orient itself accordingly.
That hybrid nonsense needs to die. It's not going to happen, at least not within the next decade.
As long as you have no personal vested interest in the success of the company, this has all been pretty entertaining to watch.Nintendo's had some real popcorn moments with this console.
Why not?
I can't find the quote at the moment, but (if it means anything) Iwata himself said that the merging of their two divisions just means faster output and less lag time. Not towards a singular device.
I don't find Nintendo in this news.
The 2nd, Renesas Electronics has announced a restructuring plan that included the closure of two plants Tsuruoka plant of main (such as Tsuruoka, Yamagata Prefecture). The company has 14 factories in the country, but together with the plan announced in July last year, to close within three years the five plants total. "Often base and people still" as (Hisao Sakuta chairman), suggesting the possibility of further restructuring. To reduce the production capacity of consumer electronics semiconductor, and to concentrate management resources on the automotive semiconductor and industrial equipment there.
Tsurumaru Tetsuya president the same day , the press conference in Tokyo said, " a strong structural reform is essential ," said to improve profitability. Tsuruoka plant dealing with ( large-scale integrated circuit ) for game consoles a system LSI, Kofu plant to produce power semiconductors for PC this time , become a closed object to new (Yamanashi Kai city). I also close part of line ( Otsu ) Shiga factory. To form a circuit of semiconductor both a " pre-process " factory.
Renesas had announced plans to reduce sequentially factory in 18 locations in July 2012. The sale of the four plants so far. Currently, the subject to close the factory now the company has it's closed five plants, some lines it is two plants. It is expected to close within three years at the latest either. In addition to about 2700 people who work in a closed factory line to relocation, to recruit the early retirees.
In addition to aggregate to other plants of Renesas and delegate Taiwan product body path manufacturing semiconductor contract manufacturing companies ( foundries ) largest , etc. (TSMC) the products to be produced in the factory line to close It is thought to be more competitive by reducing the production base management costly and divert management resources in the design and development However , the effect on revenue of the series of structural reforms were not disclosed.
 Was closed for game machines and equipment for electronics Center; I think excellent selection of businesses with leading-edge technologies, automotive products and energy-saving technologies in industrial applications, such as, "strong technology focuses on going" (sakuta Chairman). Also advancing Asian and emerging customers and cultivating. Sakuta Chairman said resolutions 'must be globally will survive"for customers.
Such as delay of rationalization, ended March 31, '13 to fell the final deficit in the eighth consecutive, including the predecessor company Renesas. Operating income was (deficit of 17.6 billion yen the same period of the previous fiscal year) surplus of 9.7 billion yen the April-June period consolidated financial statements in '13, which was announced two days. Has secured the operating profit in two consecutive quarters following the January to March period by profitability improved in the weak yen, but the extraordinary loss due to the withdrawal from the mobile phone system LSI has occurred. Bottom line was the (deficit of 20.7 billion yen the same period of the previous fiscal year) deficit of 3.9 billion yen.
Sales in April-June period 199 billion yen of 7% year-on-year. It was a decrease in effect is about 19 billion yen pushes up the effect of the depreciation of the yen, but the "focus areas, such as microcomputer has secured a slight increase from the flat in the result of the narrowing down of the business" and (Tsurumaru Tetsuya president). Renesas has decided not to disclose the earnings forecast for the fiscal year ended March 31, '14, but I was only disclosed expected April-September period in '13 on the second day. 408 billion yen of flat, (deficit of 23.3 billion yen the same period of the previous fiscal year) surplus of 14 billion yen, bottom line prospects (deficit of the 115 billion yen) deficit of 40 billion yen and operating income sales.
Or it's the shape of things to come and other suppliers who were anticipating heavy contracts from Nintendo have to re-orient themselves due to the lacklustre sales. /speculationGiven this:
...it's not significant at all, once we got further clarification.
Maybe the end result will be that it's slightly more expensive to manufacture the Wii U, but that's about it. Nintendo can re-orient itself accordingly.
I think it matters almost naught. Your second part, that's the spot right there.I'm trying to understand what the significance of this is. Or is this another opportunity for schadenfreude?
Why not?