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Fall 2010 Anime Thread: Reboots, Retreads, and Rediscovery
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Macross 7 is like a hardcore drug. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. But... its kinda awesome, and you might like it (or it might make just make you angry) (or you might just OD) (or you might narc and rat me out for trying to poison you).mAcOdIn said:
It's not so much I care what games he plays, but rather, I wish the show flaunts his obsession of eroges in a more glorious fashion than what we were presented in episode 1 as the pariah/god he is to contrast his perspective of his own world and the reality around him. It just feels mundane when compared to the manga. I'm probably placing too much emphasis on it, but it was why I enjoy and associate with Keima's character in the manga quickly.mAcOdIn said:
Somewhat agree with your 3rd point if episode 1 is a sure indication of how quickly they'll speed through each girls' story, but I'll be withholding judgment on that until the next episode because I thought it served its purpose as a nice introductory episode, but it didn't impress me much honestly. Perhaps my expectations prevented me from enjoying it as much as I could have.
Maybe it doesn't, but if it changed and fixed the problems you had with it enough, I wouldn't say the premise didn't suit your taste. You're looking for something more that it will probably not provide you. I'm not really bothered by the lack of extra drama as you mentioned although I see my enjoyment of TWGOK rising if the anime took certain liberties and made that possible.
I wouldn't worry about being a dissenter. The OreImo thread had seen the worse of it since icecream was the creator of the thread too but it died down.
firehawk12
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Jexhius said:
I feel like the honorifics debate is as fucking stupid as the sub/dub debate. People on both sides end up looking like assholes.
I dare anyone to try to watch MariMite with "localized" subs and tell me that it doesn't matter (LADY SACHIKO!!!!!!!!!). I'd rather people just drop honorifics completely rather than try to "translate" them. Certainly it's the only show I know of that includes two subtitle tracks, one with "honorifics" and one that's "translated". It's like they know it's full of folly.
And you know, that may be the way to just do this. If they can have both dub and sub tracks, there's no reason why people can't just do two subtitle tracks.
I'm glad we're refusing to let this show die. :lolA Black Falcon said:Or, to sum up my response in short, episode 13 certainly goes farther than any previous episode to make the situation look bad, but it's not completely without hope. Oh yeah, and as a general point, if by "accepting doom" you stop trying to do anything about it, well, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, I think. And this is why optimism is better.
I guess my point is that it doesn't matter what is happening to the world, since thematically it is more about how you would deal with the world ending.
Of course, I still believe that the world that they know it is probably ending, if they're willing to show that oceans are drying up. But that's beside the point.
Also, there are depressing endings in American SF film, disguised as happy endings. A.I. and Blade Runner come to mind.
Saki is interesting because it's one of Gonzo's last shows (and full of fanservice, so it's perfect!). To be honest, I probably like it more because it's about mahjong more than anything else. Having mahjong fans break down the impossibility of some of Saki's hands, let alone the rule changes that let her win, is just amusing.
It probably also has the biggest cast of any anime that I can think of... and 99% of them are women. :lol
Yeah, it's almost as if Cartman was a cute little girl. It's hard not to feel bad for her. :lolNeo C. said:I watched squid girl and I feel bad for her.
Lafiel said:
It was an internet meme. Started by gg, as far as I can recall, during the run of Code Geass (which they were subbing). At least that's how I learned of it, since I don't really lurk in that particular area of the internet where such things are generated.
(Strictly /m/.)
They could have definitely used a word other than fabulous in the subtitles, but it was kind of obligatory.
firehawk12
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Jexhius said:
Why is the main love interest "melon soda"? Is this a comment about the interiority subconscious desire? Not only does one have to cut open a melon, but the process of wringing out the juice from the melon is a violent deconstruction of the self.
Also, haters gonna hate? I'm sure it's no surprise that I think Sora no Woto is a good show anyway. :lol
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ANDOOOOOOOOO!!duckroll said:Stop trying to defuse my baseless insults with logic! I'm sad and angry here!
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I hope the series ends with better pacing, nothing really seemed to flow right in that first episode.Nishastra said:I hope the series ends with her successfully taking over the world somehow, though I doubt it
Best case scenario is probably just her going back into the ocean.
Not that any of the material would have been that prize winning if it did, but all the other shows I've examined at least got that bit right.
No one in particular comes to mind. Maybe Yui Horie (Bakemonogatari - Hanegawa, Ultra Maniac - Ayu, Kanon - Ayu), but I wouldn't mind hearing Ryou Hirohashi (Kaleido Star - Sora, Clannad - Kyou Fujibayashi, Taisho Yakyu Musume - Tama [never forget]) either. Ryou can do no wrong after that song :lolJoule said:
I have a hard time imagining that.firehawk12 said:
Jex
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Heat Guy J : Never have I felt the need to annotate a visual aide...until this episode. How an animation studio can fail at visual storytelling is beyond me.
The whole office space has been bugging me for a while, it just seemed off. And now I know why! Click to make all the pictures bigger and more horrifying!
So we open with a close up on this ladies face (click to make bigger) :
And then we cut to an apparent POV from her (click to make bigger) :
Here's where things start to go wrong.
1. What's with this camera height? Surely in this shot we're looking through her eyes, which should be just above the computer screen, not several feet up.
2. What's with the chequered floor? It's repeated geometry is slightly bewildering in this space (it'll get worse when I get to the other problems). It appears even stranger when there's clear layers to it as well. It draws the eye oddly.
3. Why does this couch look so obviously CG? And more importantly, why is the colour scheme so atrocious? Why does it not fit any of other furniture in the room? Oh wait, that's because nothing fits.
4. Talking about things that look like they come out of the Sims 1...what is this? Why is there a picture just sitting on the floor? What's the design aesthetic of this space?
5. Why are J and this plant out of focus?
6. This shot doesn't help, but why do the walls feel so horribly close together? Is this scene supposed to be tense? Are we supposed to feel trapped?
7. All these thin, tall objects look fairly peculiar against the chequered floor, the tight walls, the vertical stripes on the couch and the diagonal patterns on the wall.
8. Talking of confusing lines...what's the deal with these? Talk about drawing the eye down tightly into the centre of the room. They really add to the claustrophobia in the image.
What's worse is that none of this seems deliberate, they don't even seem to know that this office is a visual mess. Not only that, but it's fairly disturbing. Why do Daisuke and the couch look so far away? What's going on with the perspective?
Wait, now that door from earlier looks normal. Why did it look so stretched earlier?
Oh God, it's really bad here. Just look at the wall behind his head, it practically looks like it's going to crush him.
Just to prove that the perspective is screwed up however you look at it, what's with this? Why does it look like it's being shot from a wide-angle lens? What's the purpose of making everything look so far away and strange?
Hang on, wasn't there a wardrobe in that left-hand corer? What's going with the geography of this tiny office? How can the cinematography and framing be so poor?
For reference, this is The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, a German Expressionist classic.
This is an insane asylum. The mise-en-scene has been deliberately constructed for the purpose of making the characters look trapped in a distorted, mad world.
Your normal office shouldn't remind me of this.
The whole office space has been bugging me for a while, it just seemed off. And now I know why! Click to make all the pictures bigger and more horrifying!
So we open with a close up on this ladies face (click to make bigger) :
And then we cut to an apparent POV from her (click to make bigger) :
Here's where things start to go wrong.
1. What's with this camera height? Surely in this shot we're looking through her eyes, which should be just above the computer screen, not several feet up.
2. What's with the chequered floor? It's repeated geometry is slightly bewildering in this space (it'll get worse when I get to the other problems). It appears even stranger when there's clear layers to it as well. It draws the eye oddly.
3. Why does this couch look so obviously CG? And more importantly, why is the colour scheme so atrocious? Why does it not fit any of other furniture in the room? Oh wait, that's because nothing fits.
4. Talking about things that look like they come out of the Sims 1...what is this? Why is there a picture just sitting on the floor? What's the design aesthetic of this space?
5. Why are J and this plant out of focus?
6. This shot doesn't help, but why do the walls feel so horribly close together? Is this scene supposed to be tense? Are we supposed to feel trapped?
7. All these thin, tall objects look fairly peculiar against the chequered floor, the tight walls, the vertical stripes on the couch and the diagonal patterns on the wall.
8. Talking of confusing lines...what's the deal with these? Talk about drawing the eye down tightly into the centre of the room. They really add to the claustrophobia in the image.
What's worse is that none of this seems deliberate, they don't even seem to know that this office is a visual mess. Not only that, but it's fairly disturbing. Why do Daisuke and the couch look so far away? What's going on with the perspective?
Wait, now that door from earlier looks normal. Why did it look so stretched earlier?
Oh God, it's really bad here. Just look at the wall behind his head, it practically looks like it's going to crush him.
Just to prove that the perspective is screwed up however you look at it, what's with this? Why does it look like it's being shot from a wide-angle lens? What's the purpose of making everything look so far away and strange?
Hang on, wasn't there a wardrobe in that left-hand corer? What's going with the geography of this tiny office? How can the cinematography and framing be so poor?
For reference, this is The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, a German Expressionist classic.
This is an insane asylum. The mise-en-scene has been deliberately constructed for the purpose of making the characters look trapped in a distorted, mad world.
Your normal office shouldn't remind me of this.
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Jexhius said:
Nah i think your Batman gif did the job pretty well imo :lol
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