Theonik
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Make sure you don't follow them alphabetically but follow the recommended order and start with the Laws of Eternity
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Fall 2013 Anime |OT2| The Rise and Fall of Kyoto
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AnathemicOne
Banned
Log Horizon - 10
Economics: The Anime.
Haha, not that I don't enjoy these aspects, gives a unique feel of in-depth world-building.
Economics: The Anime.
Haha, not that I don't enjoy these aspects, gives a unique feel of in-depth world-building.
The two kids joining Log Horizon was a touching moment, not sure why the camera went on some blonde guy I don't know. As for the NPC's I wonder what the anime will do with them. Unless there's a super plot twist, the world they are in is still essentially a video game and said NPCs/People of the Land have algorithms programmed to them giving them an inhuman aspect compared to PCs/Adventurers, IE they are ultimately artificial in both creation and actions.
I love how it's like you're having a progressive meltdown while typing this.
Watch the next episode and your concerns may be assuaged somewhat =p
nintendoman58
Member
Episode 9 is coming up
I haven't even watched Arjuna and even I know his reaction is going to be glorious.
gashikunFLCL
Member
Monogatari - 23
Dat Opening. Shaft you did it, opening of the season. lol
Dat Opening. Shaft you did it, opening of the season. lol
kind of cool in spite of the terrible singing.
Right, Hito already told me not to. What I'll do is keep going down the list alphabetically until I hit the first Happy Science entry, which I think is like, Golden Laws, and then, instead of watching Golden Laws, I'll watch Laws of Eternity and go from there.
I am.
My concerns that Hanekawa is a better girl than Senjougahara? Those were confirmed the moment she was revealed to be a sexy cat girl. Senjougahara is just a tilted neck wordsalot by comparison.
This is amazing and I don't even watch the show.
Having loads of Orange Road flashbacks. Loads. Hitagi could do a great Madoka (Ayukawa)
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ill be sure to watch some monogatari tonight
Senjougahara is best girl because she is. However I cannot pass on a lovely catgirl either!
gashikunFLCL
Member
Fuck! I'm going to go read the manga, can't wait for next week.
You have to watch Laws of Eternity first. Your enjoyment of all of the other films will be stunted if you don't.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Hm, should I get into White Album, how does it fare compared to Golden Time?
Assuming you mean White Album 2, the first seven episodes were great. After that it's become weaker. Not bad, but not as good as the first half.
I hear White Album 1 is pretty awful.
Don't overlook Kyuketsuki-chan either.
and snail-chan ;-;
Do it. This arc has been fantastic.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Well its on like the 10th or so page of chp 27.
gashikunFLCL
Member
Thanks, DTL. =D
Valvrave 21
hoooooolyyyy crap
The shit, it has officially hit the fan. Cannot wait for the next episode.
Why is Haruto
now, though? >.> Wasn't that meant to be
Of course it does increase the DRAMA and sheer hopelessness of this whole situation so yeah. Not really complaining. This is one trainwreck I can't seem to tear my eyes away from.
hoooooolyyyy crap
The shit, it has officially hit the fan. Cannot wait for the next episode.
Why is Haruto
losing his memories
a test-pilot-only defect thing, not something that could happen to any Valvrave pilot?
R_thanatos
Member
i think you've actually missed the point of those events.
Since episode 4 they are actually seeing the people of the land are not NPCs and in this episode shiroe states that this is NOT the elder tale mmo world anymore ..you should make the right conclusions with those 2 things. Ep10 various scenes about those people of the land make this quite obvious.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Jewelpet Happiness 3
Really fun episode with great comic timing and the perfect amount of absurdity. The animation isn't technically great, but even the low number of frames contributes to the overall effect in the manner of the best low-budget comedies. So many amusing facial expressions. And of course, the episode featured the introduction of the best character:
The Master's voice is suave enough, but it's the random hatching that takes him over the top to greatness.
Censorship of art? Kids' show.
Nightmare fuel? Kids' show.
Really fun episode with great comic timing and the perfect amount of absurdity. The animation isn't technically great, but even the low number of frames contributes to the overall effect in the manner of the best low-budget comedies. So many amusing facial expressions. And of course, the episode featured the introduction of the best character:
Best character?
Best character!
The Master's voice is suave enough, but it's the random hatching that takes him over the top to greatness.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
I'm trying to understand if I should pick this up. It looks good but eh...
Kino's Journey 3
Episode had some pretty goddamn dark humor. most notably there at the end. One country got their hands on some epic poem written by a poet from another country. The poem is very dark and melancholy, and the priest of the country that got their hands on it interprets it as a prophecy for the end of the world, Later on he also interprets them being able to save themselves...by blowing up the country it came from. Because, you know, it looks like a green plate, what with the way it's round at the shoreline.
Dynamic there was interesting in a few ways. For one, the disparity in the role this poem played in each of the two cultures is pretty huge. For one, it gets recited every day out of homage to the poet that wrote it and his tragic life, and to his daughter who followed him throughout his anguish enough to learn the whole thing by heart. To the other, it's an ancient prophecy of doom. What was also interesting was how just before Kino left, the one priest who made the first prophecy corrected his original prophecy and said it would happen tomorrow, because lunar eclipses don't count. Then another priest reveals his prophecy that it wouldn't happen for another thirty years. For whatever reason, during Kino's travels to those other countries, the people decided to believe the first priest that the end of the world would come tomorrow, the priest that was already wrong before. They were really rather anxious to believe that the end of the world was upon them. And yet they were willing to blow the fuck up another country and kill many people just to avoid it. Why did they choose "We're all gonna die tomorrow unless we blow up that country cause it resembles a green plate kinda!" and not "The world won't end for another thirty years"? And then I look at this world and just how many people chose to believe that the world would be coming to an end on 12/21/12, and it doesn't seem so farfetched. But I guess we weren't willing to blow people up to avoid that. But we do blow people up for all sorts of other reasons.
Also funny how that one lady was about to go to Kino, "Uh yeah, I know I let you have that stuff for free yesterday, but since the world didn't end, I'm afraid I'm gonna need you to pay up". Not Kino's fault you thought the world was coming to an end and gave her free shit. Hell, maybe that's why they chose to believe the world was ending the next day after she left. Because if they just let a traveler have a bunch of free shit because they thought the world was ending, then they'd just feel silly.
There was also that other village Kino visited, which was kinda funny and a little bit sad. People in there are so desperate for a culture, a tradition, a unifying identity between them that they entertain any new traveler they get with some new weird thing they come up with (usually just wearing animal stuff; they wore cat ears for Kino), and if the traveler likes it or buys into it, that's their new tradition. But like Kino and that historian she was talking to realized, it's ironic how that search for a tradition and culture has become that tradition and culture. But if they were to ever realize it, it wouldn't be their tradition and culture anymore.
Edit: I think they decided to believe that it was tomorrow and that they could save themselves by destroying the village because they remembered how they didn't know what to do with themselves when it didn't happen the first time, so they decided to let themselves believe that they prevented it so that they could maintain their belief in the priest's prophecy. Yeah I'll go with that.
Episode had some pretty goddamn dark humor. most notably there at the end. One country got their hands on some epic poem written by a poet from another country. The poem is very dark and melancholy, and the priest of the country that got their hands on it interprets it as a prophecy for the end of the world, Later on he also interprets them being able to save themselves...by blowing up the country it came from. Because, you know, it looks like a green plate, what with the way it's round at the shoreline.
Dynamic there was interesting in a few ways. For one, the disparity in the role this poem played in each of the two cultures is pretty huge. For one, it gets recited every day out of homage to the poet that wrote it and his tragic life, and to his daughter who followed him throughout his anguish enough to learn the whole thing by heart. To the other, it's an ancient prophecy of doom. What was also interesting was how just before Kino left, the one priest who made the first prophecy corrected his original prophecy and said it would happen tomorrow, because lunar eclipses don't count. Then another priest reveals his prophecy that it wouldn't happen for another thirty years. For whatever reason, during Kino's travels to those other countries, the people decided to believe the first priest that the end of the world would come tomorrow, the priest that was already wrong before. They were really rather anxious to believe that the end of the world was upon them. And yet they were willing to blow the fuck up another country and kill many people just to avoid it. Why did they choose "We're all gonna die tomorrow unless we blow up that country cause it resembles a green plate kinda!" and not "The world won't end for another thirty years"? And then I look at this world and just how many people chose to believe that the world would be coming to an end on 12/21/12, and it doesn't seem so farfetched. But I guess we weren't willing to blow people up to avoid that. But we do blow people up for all sorts of other reasons.
Also funny how that one lady was about to go to Kino, "Uh yeah, I know I let you have that stuff for free yesterday, but since the world didn't end, I'm afraid I'm gonna need you to pay up". Not Kino's fault you thought the world was coming to an end and gave her free shit. Hell, maybe that's why they chose to believe the world was ending the next day after she left. Because if they just let a traveler have a bunch of free shit because they thought the world was ending, then they'd just feel silly.
There was also that other village Kino visited, which was kinda funny and a little bit sad. People in there are so desperate for a culture, a tradition, a unifying identity between them that they entertain any new traveler they get with some new weird thing they come up with (usually just wearing animal stuff; they wore cat ears for Kino), and if the traveler likes it or buys into it, that's their new tradition. But like Kino and that historian she was talking to realized, it's ironic how that search for a tradition and culture has become that tradition and culture. But if they were to ever realize it, it wouldn't be their tradition and culture anymore.
Edit: I think they decided to believe that it was tomorrow and that they could save themselves by destroying the village because they remembered how they didn't know what to do with themselves when it didn't happen the first time, so they decided to let themselves believe that they prevented it so that they could maintain their belief in the priest's prophecy. Yeah I'll go with that.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Its dreadfully typical LN harem action stuff that brings absolutely nothing to the table at all. Decent at best.
AnathemicOne
Banned
I understand that
the characters themselves are starting to shed off their initial viewpoint of just being a game world but for me as a viewer I'm keeping all the elements in check. Just because the character believes something doesn't necessarily mean I have to believe it.
To put it simply, given how the 'world' works and what has been established, they are ultimately in a game/virtual reality world. Unless the main question/drama/mystery of the show is determining if the 'world' they are in is virtual, reality, or something else. Where to that, as a viewer, I'm still viewing it as a game world and how the characters are coping with it, which include establishing a working economy, civil rules, etc.
To put it simply, given how the 'world' works and what has been established, they are ultimately in a game/virtual reality world. Unless the main question/drama/mystery of the show is determining if the 'world' they are in is virtual, reality, or something else. Where to that, as a viewer, I'm still viewing it as a game world and how the characters are coping with it, which include establishing a working economy, civil rules, etc.
Kill la Kill 10
mmmmmmmmyes, Kill la Kill is back on form. Not that it was ever bad, but the previous two episodes have been relatively underwhelming by this show's standards, whereas this episode was just a rush of win, with plenty of potential for more win on the horizon.
It helps that the pacing has been cranked back up - whereas Episode 8 was basically one long build-up to the Elite Four battles and then the whole of Episode 9 was spent on a single battle, here Ryuuko
, and then
Speaking of those
Oh and Mako scenes were godly but saying that feels like saying the sky was blue. Actually more obvious than saying the sky was blue, since there's very rarely any blue sky in this show. The sky-esque background is generally red, though I believe that's the school walls or something(?) rather than actual sky.
mmmmmmmmyes, Kill la Kill is back on form. Not that it was ever bad, but the previous two episodes have been relatively underwhelming by this show's standards, whereas this episode was just a rush of win, with plenty of potential for more win on the horizon.
It helps that the pacing has been cranked back up - whereas Episode 8 was basically one long build-up to the Elite Four battles and then the whole of Episode 9 was spent on a single battle, here Ryuuko
summarily dispatches Inumuta within the space of less than half an episode
goes a fair way towards beating Nonon as well, not forgetting to debut two new Senketsu forms (including FLIGHT, which is ALWAYS AWESOME) and include two Elite Four flashbacks along the way.
Speaking of those
flashbacks, Nonon's was positively adorable <3 Little Nonon was the cutest thing, and even Satsuki was kind of cute back then. Not that modern-day Nonon is any slouch, getting a rather gorgeous transformation sequence and a battle mode that does a pretty good job of showing off her nice body (in addition to being a GIANT WEAPON-PACKED WAR MECH THAT PLAYS CLASSICAL MUSIC AND FLIES).
Oh and Mako scenes were godly but saying that feels like saying the sky was blue. Actually more obvious than saying the sky was blue, since there's very rarely any blue sky in this show. The sky-esque background is generally red, though I believe that's the school walls or something(?) rather than actual sky.
Arjuna 8
Gee, Cindy, maybe people would understand you better if you weren't a colossal bitch? Just thinkin out loud here, but TRYING TO MURDER JUNA was probably not going to help her understand your thinkin'.
This episode also points out something that is enormously hypocritical of Juna's new world order: the sheer amount of food and drink she wastes. That cow died so you could live, Juna. You throwing away his sacrifice is more insulting than any process the meat was put through. Feel free to waste it, though. You're only deeply insulting the animal and the person offering it to you with this gesture.
Which is kinda the message of Arjuna, from what I gather. Mankind is unimportant, and human relationships are less important than being a stuck up ecosnob. Because that's the message being sent. Juna left home for DAYS without talking to her mom after giving her the scare of her life. Now she is imposing all manner of economic demands on her mother for things a single woman may not be able to provide to two teenagers. All of this without explanation. And now she's been forced, more or less, to dump Tokio (who is kinda a loser) because the environment demands it/she's realized that as long as she's with Tokio, Chris is going to continue to torment the fuck out of him.
I mean, the shit-eating old ephebophile on the mountain is clearly meant to reflect the shit-stained paradise this show endorses, right? And that guy lived alone with no friends or relatives at all. Probably because he was a massive creep and as abusive and vicious as all environmentally enlightened characters in this show tend to be. So it seems to me that the Mountain wants us to learn that to truly save the planet, we must be as removed from human relationships as possible. Or better yet, the Earth would be better off without humans at all.
Because The Mountain, the old man, and the writer are all, in fact, the Devil Gundam.
We transition from Juna wasting food to a lecture on starving children in Africa. This show was written by June Cleaver and she does not give a fuck if Pres. Eisenhower doesn't eat his meat, there are starving children in Africa and as a first world child you should eat less meat so it canrot away in a supermarket go to children in Africa! Sure that doesn't make sense but NEITHER DOES THIS SHOW.
Am I or am I not meant to eat my food? Maybe Juna's waste of Merikan burgers is heroic, since by eating less meat she can solve world hunger. But Merikan burgers are horrible and murderous, so that can't be right, can it? I don't know.
Lipstick as a metaphor for a penis ensues.
Juna has learned well from Chris the art of saying fuck all and then pouting when people don't understand you. Her sister asks what she wants, Juna says nothing. Tokio asks what she wants and she's all "don't you know who this is?" I suppose this is meant to tie into Chris's lecture on how words only separate people from their true feelings, rather than reveal them. Which, as someone who has been studying language a bit now, I feel confident in saying is bullshit. Not because people always mean what they say, but because language did not evolve as some bullshit method of keeping people from understanding us. I'm perfectly fine with the message that sometimes language does fail us and does prevent us from really expressing ourselves, but as with so many other parts of Arjuna, the message isn't what's wrong, its the delivery.
I'm of the understanding that in high-context, detail oriented cultures like historical Japan you don't say the point, you say things around it and lead someone to understand it themselves. That's part of being a high context culture and typical of high context business dealings. But what's wrong here is that, rather than guiding people to what they need to know, Chris and Juna are behaving like assholes and expecting
people to know. A good example of how to do all of this correctly is Jesus teaching parables. He didn't lay out the point of them to the crowd, they were supposed to get that themselves. Or, as a personal favorite, when Nathan chastises David for killing Uriah and sleeping with Bath-Sheba. He tells him that lengthy story, and David himself concludes that the person who did all of that was wrong, at which point Nathan points out that the story is about David himself. Chris is just "WHY KILL WHY KILL WORDS WORDS WORDS MERIKAN BURGER IS THE DEVIL." And Juna is just "MOPEY STARE". Neither of them give clues or take the time to guide the person they want to arrive at the conclusion themselves. They just expect that person to intuitively know. And I'm sorry, but unlike Chris and Cindy the rest of humanity isn't a bunch of serial mind-rapists. THEY'RE NOT ALL JEAN GREY AND CHARLES XAVIER AND CAN READ FUCKING MINDS. Without even so much as a clue, nobody is gonna know that you're sad you dumped your loser boyfriend to save him from being further tortured by the eco terrorists who are holding your very life hostage. It's just not going to happen.
Is Appare an actual brand? This is two episodes it is advertised in, now. I would love to believe this show bad-mouthed a product which sponsored it.
Honestly Tokio's hilariously poorly hidden nuclear stockpile of pornography annoys me much, much less than the fact that Juna is afraid of going to the ocean because it means she'll have to eat their food. GOOD GOD DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF GIRL? YOU CAN NEVER TRAVEL BECAUSE IT MEANS EATING FOOD FROM UNKNOWN SOURCES OH NO.
Like seriously, the writer doesn't just hate environmental threats, he hates human civilization, and all advancements we as a race have created since we first stopped being gatherers (he probably hates the idea of hunting, too.) We have gone, in less than ten episodes, from turning off the AC in the summer to stopping going anywhere because travel is BAD. This show is fucking obscene. It seriously borders on offensive to me as a human being. As in I honestly am tempted to believe some alien race made this entire anime as propaganda about how awful humanity is so that human teenagers would be demoralized by the time they steamrolled their invasion.
Arjuna is alien propaganda designed to spread the message of how shitty human civilization is, and that is not okay.
Bwahahaha, end of this episode is some serious do-ra-ma bullshit. I hope next episode ends with Sayuri force-feeding Juna a Merikan burger then ripping her gut out with a knife and carrying Tokio's severed head off on a Nice Boat.
I want every bad anime to end that way, really.
Gee, Cindy, maybe people would understand you better if you weren't a colossal bitch? Just thinkin out loud here, but TRYING TO MURDER JUNA was probably not going to help her understand your thinkin'.
This episode also points out something that is enormously hypocritical of Juna's new world order: the sheer amount of food and drink she wastes. That cow died so you could live, Juna. You throwing away his sacrifice is more insulting than any process the meat was put through. Feel free to waste it, though. You're only deeply insulting the animal and the person offering it to you with this gesture.
Which is kinda the message of Arjuna, from what I gather. Mankind is unimportant, and human relationships are less important than being a stuck up ecosnob. Because that's the message being sent. Juna left home for DAYS without talking to her mom after giving her the scare of her life. Now she is imposing all manner of economic demands on her mother for things a single woman may not be able to provide to two teenagers. All of this without explanation. And now she's been forced, more or less, to dump Tokio (who is kinda a loser) because the environment demands it/she's realized that as long as she's with Tokio, Chris is going to continue to torment the fuck out of him.
I mean, the shit-eating old ephebophile on the mountain is clearly meant to reflect the shit-stained paradise this show endorses, right? And that guy lived alone with no friends or relatives at all. Probably because he was a massive creep and as abusive and vicious as all environmentally enlightened characters in this show tend to be. So it seems to me that the Mountain wants us to learn that to truly save the planet, we must be as removed from human relationships as possible. Or better yet, the Earth would be better off without humans at all.
Because The Mountain, the old man, and the writer are all, in fact, the Devil Gundam.
We transition from Juna wasting food to a lecture on starving children in Africa. This show was written by June Cleaver and she does not give a fuck if Pres. Eisenhower doesn't eat his meat, there are starving children in Africa and as a first world child you should eat less meat so it can
Am I or am I not meant to eat my food? Maybe Juna's waste of Merikan burgers is heroic, since by eating less meat she can solve world hunger. But Merikan burgers are horrible and murderous, so that can't be right, can it? I don't know.
Lipstick as a metaphor for a penis ensues.
Juna has learned well from Chris the art of saying fuck all and then pouting when people don't understand you. Her sister asks what she wants, Juna says nothing. Tokio asks what she wants and she's all "don't you know who this is?" I suppose this is meant to tie into Chris's lecture on how words only separate people from their true feelings, rather than reveal them. Which, as someone who has been studying language a bit now, I feel confident in saying is bullshit. Not because people always mean what they say, but because language did not evolve as some bullshit method of keeping people from understanding us. I'm perfectly fine with the message that sometimes language does fail us and does prevent us from really expressing ourselves, but as with so many other parts of Arjuna, the message isn't what's wrong, its the delivery.
I'm of the understanding that in high-context, detail oriented cultures like historical Japan you don't say the point, you say things around it and lead someone to understand it themselves. That's part of being a high context culture and typical of high context business dealings. But what's wrong here is that, rather than guiding people to what they need to know, Chris and Juna are behaving like assholes and expecting
people to know. A good example of how to do all of this correctly is Jesus teaching parables. He didn't lay out the point of them to the crowd, they were supposed to get that themselves. Or, as a personal favorite, when Nathan chastises David for killing Uriah and sleeping with Bath-Sheba. He tells him that lengthy story, and David himself concludes that the person who did all of that was wrong, at which point Nathan points out that the story is about David himself. Chris is just "WHY KILL WHY KILL WORDS WORDS WORDS MERIKAN BURGER IS THE DEVIL." And Juna is just "MOPEY STARE". Neither of them give clues or take the time to guide the person they want to arrive at the conclusion themselves. They just expect that person to intuitively know. And I'm sorry, but unlike Chris and Cindy the rest of humanity isn't a bunch of serial mind-rapists. THEY'RE NOT ALL JEAN GREY AND CHARLES XAVIER AND CAN READ FUCKING MINDS. Without even so much as a clue, nobody is gonna know that you're sad you dumped your loser boyfriend to save him from being further tortured by the eco terrorists who are holding your very life hostage. It's just not going to happen.
Is Appare an actual brand? This is two episodes it is advertised in, now. I would love to believe this show bad-mouthed a product which sponsored it.
Honestly Tokio's hilariously poorly hidden nuclear stockpile of pornography annoys me much, much less than the fact that Juna is afraid of going to the ocean because it means she'll have to eat their food. GOOD GOD DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF GIRL? YOU CAN NEVER TRAVEL BECAUSE IT MEANS EATING FOOD FROM UNKNOWN SOURCES OH NO.
Like seriously, the writer doesn't just hate environmental threats, he hates human civilization, and all advancements we as a race have created since we first stopped being gatherers (he probably hates the idea of hunting, too.) We have gone, in less than ten episodes, from turning off the AC in the summer to stopping going anywhere because travel is BAD. This show is fucking obscene. It seriously borders on offensive to me as a human being. As in I honestly am tempted to believe some alien race made this entire anime as propaganda about how awful humanity is so that human teenagers would be demoralized by the time they steamrolled their invasion.
Arjuna is alien propaganda designed to spread the message of how shitty human civilization is, and that is not okay.
Bwahahaha, end of this episode is some serious do-ra-ma bullshit. I hope next episode ends with Sayuri force-feeding Juna a Merikan burger then ripping her gut out with a knife and carrying Tokio's severed head off on a Nice Boat.
I want every bad anime to end that way, really.
nintendoman58
Member
Oh boy...I haven't seen Arjuna and yet I'm so excited for Corvo's posts. You people have been hyping up this episode for a while. Corvo's rage shall be glorious.
It's buffering as we speak.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Little Busters! Refrain 10
Man, what a bummer. Almost an entire episode of recap, probably because the last four episodes haven't added anything particularly new and everyone watching forgot what was going on so they figured everyone must need a refresher or something.
Man, what a bummer. Almost an entire episode of recap, probably because the last four episodes haven't added anything particularly new and everyone watching forgot what was going on so they figured everyone must need a refresher or something.
Everyone's episode 9 suffering is different but carries a tinge of that same sweet taste.
It's going to feel so good.
nintendoman58
Member
Steins;Gate 11-12
Oh yes. You both have gotten to the real stuff in Steins gate. Enjoy THAT ride.
Corvy, youre a national treasure. Please never leave us ♥
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