Oh definitely, although NV's problem was a limitation of technology which if they hopefully get a chance at a Fallout game they can fix. I'd love to see a Fallout city as believable as say Novigrad in TW3.
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Fallout 4 - Full Dialogue Interface Mod released
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Oh definitely, although NV's problem was a limitation of technology which if they hopefully get a chance at a Fallout game they can fix. I'd love to see a Fallout city as believable as say Novigrad in TW3.
texhnolyze
Banned
I believe the mod is still not yet completed, it's still the very first release version (beta).
The modder has also made a statement regarding this, and more languages are coming apparently.
Haunted
Member
Because playing as the vanilla goody two-shoes errand boy for everyfuckingone is possibly the most boring way to experience what little roleplaying the game has left?
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
lol?
texhnolyze
Banned
Lol.
Perhaps gamepad users should wait for a more polished version. Or just let gamepad user use the kb/m format, that would be the perfect solution. I'm not sure why the modder has to separate gamepad to the lite version.
Exactly, which is why I really hope Obsidian is going to be working off of this.
Can't wait.
Haunted
Member
time for some linebreaking action in the next update
(also, some might consider that character to be a spoiler)
Denton
Member
Bethesda does not have two teams.
There is the reason they went with paraphrasing.
Actually the lack of paraphrasing isn't the issue there, it's the lack of line breaks(the keyboard version of the mod would also look fine). And the hilarious thing is, those choices would be "summed up" in 3 words or less without the mod, so you'd have no idea what you were about to say.
Denton
Member
Even the paraphrasing can be done well. See Deus Ex Human Revolution and Witcher 3 for that.
Alternatively, you know, they could simply do the interface like it was in FNV instead of this four button bullshit.
Haunted
Member
Nothing that couldn't be fixed with some dynamic scaling or linebreaking.
By the developers at least, not sure that's possible for the modder.
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TAPES? (Y)
SARCASTIC (X) (B) WORTH IT?
(A) SEARCHINGtexhnolyze
Banned
Yes, the problem is not the paraphrasing, it's the interface. (if we're only talking about this mod and that picture particularly).
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
That's almost exactly what the choices are without the mod, so yeah.
Serious question, have you played other Fallout games than FO4 en 3? Because this sentence is not true at all, New Vegas went further than FO4 with the way dialogue and choices affected story, side quests and companions.
I understood that reference
I goddamn love PC gaming.
I still dislike Bethesda for letting modders pick up their slack, though.
Didn't it always let you do that? I always picked the dialogue with the 1 2 3 4 buttons on my G600 mouse and they're mapped to number keys, nothing special.
I still dislike Bethesda for letting modders pick up their slack, though.
Didn't it always let you do that? I always picked the dialogue with the 1 2 3 4 buttons on my G600 mouse and they're mapped to number keys, nothing special.
This is a great improvement UI wise, but knowing what all the dialog lines actually are just makes how crap the "choices" are even worse. I just played the confrontation with Kellog, and all the dialog choices were the basically the same thing, stated with different levels of rudeness.
Cropduster89
Neo Member
Good times, gonna get this and the no pc dialogue after work. Not that will will fix the core problems with FO4's dialogue seeing as every choice can be summed up with "Yes, sarcastic yes, no, more info" but hey.
Your character being a blank slate to fill in yourself has always been a hallmark of Bethesda games, and FO4 kind of kills it. Especially with a female character, all the lines flip aimlessly between grieving mother and wasteland psychopath. It's anti immersion and jars wildly with the things you've probably been doing. Devs seem to think silent protagonists are no longer feasabe, but I'd argue in a game like this they're pretty much essential.
If your going to going to make the PC an actual character then do that. This middle ground approach sucks, I had the same issue with DA:i and that did it much better.
Your character being a blank slate to fill in yourself has always been a hallmark of Bethesda games, and FO4 kind of kills it. Especially with a female character, all the lines flip aimlessly between grieving mother and wasteland psychopath. It's anti immersion and jars wildly with the things you've probably been doing. Devs seem to think silent protagonists are no longer feasabe, but I'd argue in a game like this they're pretty much essential.
If your going to going to make the PC an actual character then do that. This middle ground approach sucks, I had the same issue with DA:i and that did it much better.
I wouldn't be surprised if their engine was holding them back from having meaningful choices. It seems like the more the choices matter, the buggier the game is (speaking only about Bethesda's games). After Skyrim's Ps3 debacle, my speculation is that Bethesda is completely aware of the current sentiment regarding this subject but would rather ship a game that has good parts and a few bad parts (that is dependent on the preference of the player obviously) instead of something thatll break too frequently.
Haunted
Member
HA! I was just guessing based on the full text. :lol
It's so obvious to most people that they just don't want to waste energy coming up with dozens of examples
But yeah, like a couple of others have mentioned, the interface turned out to be just one of the problems FO4's dialogue has. Nice to have a fix like this, either way.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
So you mean I don't have to guess what some of these y and b options mean anymore?
TheMoon
Member
But after seeing a sarcasm female video, I now wish I always chose sarcasm, its amazing
So Fallout 4 is Dragon Age 2?
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Thank god for this mod.
Doesn't save the fact that the writing is dreadful more often than not, but at least now I'll be able to know what dreadful thing my PC is going to say even if it makes no difference anyway.
Doesn't save the fact that the writing is dreadful more often than not, but at least now I'll be able to know what dreadful thing my PC is going to say even if it makes no difference anyway.
Yeah i really like it,reminds me of female shepard.
Visualante2
Member
I believe this is what I was waiting for. Dipping into savings but fuck it. Purchasing today. The only nagging feeling is that the camera swaps to face the player character saying nothing. Feels a bit awkward. Maybe someone will have that fixed by next week.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
What I need is way to tell if the thing I'm going to say is going to progress the dialog or not. It's super annoying since I'd like to hear everything.
NeoHorizon
Member
Thank god for this mod. Now I don't have to move my hands to the directional keys to select the options
Vincent Grayson
Member
I totally disagree. This is the best dialogue a Bethesda game has ever offered, in that it actually feels like a dialogue two humans would engage in and not some goofy ass gamified list of things you just run down until you get your quest, which has basically been the extent of previous Bethesda conversation systems.
I'll back games like Torment 100%, but they're completely different in style and purpose and that approach isn't one Bethesda has ever meaningfully taken.
The female voice is done by the actress who did Jack's voice in Mass Effect series.
MMaRsu
Banned
I understand the dialogue options complaints since they are clearly reduced compared to previous games but this thing about the voice acting baffles me.
I kind of want Link to be voiced next, imagine the outrage
Because it removes any blank state player from the game. You cannot roleplay as someone else when everyone has the same voice. Its a thousand different heads with one voice. Its stupid as all hell in a game like this.
MMaRsu
Banned
You can turn off dialogue camera and stay in first person
Felix Lighter
Member
This is what I get.
Same here. I end up picking choices with my mouse cursor because who the hell has their hand anywhere near the arrow keys. Also, the inconsistency of how you exit menus is so annoying, Tab, Esc, sometimes confirm with fucking Enter. Who wants any key mapped to Enter? At least every choice is clickable.
This is what I get.
Same, still allowed me to use number buttons to select them. Odd.
Exactly this. Will try this mod.
I do like the voice over's, though. Voice actress of our protagonists sounds damn sexy.
Some might call them spoilers, me, I call them treasures....
Pilgrimzero
Member
I want a Mod where I answer everything as The Shroud.
Mr. Smiley
Member
jesus christ
lol, please. I've played so much I maxed out the xbox save file
get out of here with that shit. I've also been playing Fallout since the first game was released (the superior Fallout 1 and 2 dialog systems are curiously missing from your screed)
The fact is, every dialog option results in the same thing: yes, or not yet (but you can come back and say yes). This doesn't change the more you play the game. Even the vast majority of the charisma tests are simply "yes, but give me caps"
FriendlyGoat
Member
Just a couple of things, the game doesn't really show you, but you CAN select dialogue with number keys on PC with the default scheme. 1,2,3,4 select up, left, right, and down dialogue options, respectively. Also by default 'E' will also work the same as 'enter'.