DeathSparks
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Hopefully, for me it wasn't worth installing through another launcher.
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Fallout Shelter is now out on PC! (Only available through Bethesda.net Launcher)
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Hopefully, for me it wasn't worth installing through another launcher.
Yep it is. I already uninstalled the Epic Launcher and I'm never installing Bethesda Launcher. Screw that, I have no desire to install any other launcher, if Bethesda goes Bethesda.net exclusive I'll either just never play their games or play them on PS4. 5 game stores/launchers is my arbitrary limit! lol.
I mean I'm not going to play it either way, but I'd guess it might be coming to steam tomorrow.
Launcherocalypse
Launcherocalypse
Is there any larger publisher (of the size or comparable to Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft, EA,...) that does not have some sort of launcher or account system?
DeathSparks
Member
Yeah it's fine even though it's in beta, the problem isn't the launcher it's the fact that there's too many of them.
StereoVsn
Member
Good, might be last Bethesda game I will buy the way things are going.
Well, the only other publisher remotely comparable in size to the three largest publishers in the world is 2K, and it doesn't have one. The answer varies if you go smaller: Squeenix and WB do (Squeenix Account and WB Play, respectively) while Deep Silver and Scamco don't; then there's the likes of 505, Focus and Nordic, as well as indie-oriented outfits such as Devolver and (more recently) Team17, who don't, while publishers of F2P games (e.g. Nexon) generally do.
Edit: Oh, wait, 2K has My2K.
DeathSparks
Member
Bandai-Namco or Square Enix
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Steam, Origin, Uplay, Gog Galaxy, Epic, Battlenet, Windows Store, Playfire, Itch, and now Bethesda.net
Mmmmmnope. Not gonna bite.
Mmmmmnope. Not gonna bite.
WhiskeyDiver
Member
So are we able to import cloud saves from mobile devices? Or do I have to start from scratch? I really don't want to.
DeathSparks
Member
You have to start from scratch, no cloud saves.
Used to use all of the above 'cept the Bethesda launcher, but managed to get down to just Steam & Battle.net. I'm alright with handling my GOG games the old fashioned way, and didn't play UT4 enough to justify keeping that installed. Thankfully, Bethesda has next to no traction with me, so they can put TES VI & FO5 on there and I won't care.
Would probably get rid of Steam before Battle.net, honestly.
Abilidebob
Member
Those are the biggest PC earners of 2015.
Only positions 8-10 are sold on Steam. Out of these 3, only 2 are exclusive to Steam.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
yay finally on pc. I already had to use BN for the CK, not happy about that.
Those are the biggest PC earners of 2015.
Only positions 8-10 are sold on Steam. Out of these 3, only 2 are exclusive to Steam.
Hmm, is it strange that I've never heard of Crossfire or Dungeon Fighter Online? Are they popular in US/Europe or just Asia?
Back in my day, EVERY game had its own launcher, because there was no cloud, consarnit!
The launcher complaints are silly. If having one more icon on your computer is stopping you from playing something, then it absolutely 100% is something you should not spend your time on
There was a lot of anger at Steam when it first came out too for various reasons, and frankly some are still true today. But here we are!
The launcher complaints are silly. If having one more icon on your computer is stopping you from playing something, then it absolutely 100% is something you should not spend your time on
There was a lot of anger at Steam when it first came out too for various reasons, and frankly some are still true today. But here we are!CecilRousso
Member
That we accept a thing once, or maybe twice, doesn't necessarily mean that it's a compelling thought to do it a multitude of times.
Crossfire is basically Koren Counter Strike, so yes. 3 or 4 on the list are thanks to primarily Asian countries.
Sure. But Steam has a LOT of legitimate consumer-unfriendly issues that have existed for years, and no indication that they care or are working on it. Anything that puts pressure on Valve to give a fuck is good in my eyes at this point.
Perhaps it's because I've been PC gaming since pre-Windows 95, but the multiple launchers doesn't bother me at all because it really doesn't impact my ability to just play the game in any way. It's no different than having to launch each game individually like I used to and actually still more convenient than that really.
Valve has done some great things to help get PC gaming where it is today, but they appear to be very... conservative, or regressive, even. There's tons of clear potential being unmet, there's nonsense reactions to all kinds of issues, slow reactions to major issues, etc. When convenience gets too monopolistic it tends to become less convenient over time. No one seemed to care when Blizzard introduced their launcher because their games were never on Steam in the first place... if EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, had all NOT published their games on Steam, would the reaction be the same? I doubt it.
The only real issue I'll have is when companies stop selling their games anywhere EXCEPT their launchers, because that is a serious problem.
Perhaps it's because I've been PC gaming since pre-Windows 95, but the multiple launchers doesn't bother me at all because it really doesn't impact my ability to just play the game in any way. It's no different than having to launch each game individually like I used to and actually still more convenient than that really.
Valve has done some great things to help get PC gaming where it is today, but they appear to be very... conservative, or regressive, even. There's tons of clear potential being unmet, there's nonsense reactions to all kinds of issues, slow reactions to major issues, etc. When convenience gets too monopolistic it tends to become less convenient over time. No one seemed to care when Blizzard introduced their launcher because their games were never on Steam in the first place... if EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, had all NOT published their games on Steam, would the reaction be the same? I doubt it.
The only real issue I'll have is when companies stop selling their games anywhere EXCEPT their launchers, because that is a serious problem.
Square has a drm launcher for FFVII.
CecilRousso
Member
As long as the games are available on different services, sure. Then you have options.
That everything that puts pressure on Valve is a good thing, after a few years with things like uPlay, I don't subscribe to that thought anymore.
But I'm an active user of GOG and the Humble Store.
What are these launchers, besides MMO launchers? I understand MMO's, where you subscribe to a service for a title that you're most likely invested in. But for singleplayer games?
Those are the biggest PC earners of 2015.
Only positions 8-10 are sold on Steam. Out of these 3, only 2 are exclusive to Steam.
In the context of the idea of publishers abandoning Steam to sell their games on their own respective stores, the more salient observation is that two of the 10 listed titles are exclusively pay-to-play and both are on Steam (I was going to include WoW at first, but discovered that it has a free "Starter Edition" these days), to say nothing of the fact that, with the obvious exception of Dota 2, all of the F2P games listed launched well before Steam's feature set was broadened to support third-party F2P titles (granted, this came later than it should have and Steam hasn't exactly become the go-to place for such games). Origin shows that paid games can be successful enough without Steam (it's too early to rule on Microsoft's WinStore push), but I can only assume there is a reason that, for instance, Ubi, despite not lacking in popular franchises and Uplay turning 7 later this year, continues to not only sell its games on Steam but also improve how the two -- Steam and Uplay -- intermix.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I don't need another client.
Shang
Member
not having the word "goodbye" is my favorite thing about this sentence.
It's pretty standard F2P timewaster junk. It's mildly entertaining for a couple of hours spread across a week or so, but it's pretty much what you'd expect with a Fallout skin.
I'm mainly curious as to who hasn't played this yet? It's on Android and iOS, right? It seems way better suited to mobile (especially if you were needing a Fallout fix awaiting FO4).
Ricerocket
Member
This is the same as the one on Android right? If it is, i'll pass. It's like an idle game, don't really do much but wait a lot. I have to wonder why this would be their first title to test out Beth net.
MisterCTwo
Member
I'm so glad to see this on PC!
Back in my day, EVERY game had its own launcher, because there was no cloud, consarnit!
The launcher complaints are silly. If having one more icon on your computer is stopping you from playing something, then it absolutely 100% is something you should not spend your time on
Having multiple launchers open eats up resources. The complaints are valid.
Chobel
Member
Fuck!
CecilRousso
Member
As long as they can redirect everyone there, yes.
Otherwise they will have to do the math to see if a lesser audience is compensated by them keeping a higher percentage of the money spent.
Well that's just baloney; I had (well, still do) a super vault on my phone but it was so amazing that it started lagging. Screw starting all over again.
jediyoshi
Member
The trade off is the amount of people they'd gain by having it on Steam. Tapping into an existing giant install base can easily outweigh an attempt to foster that themselves.
The thing is: nome of those services are actual competition. They dont try to a general store for PC games, they are just publisher stores with unecessary clientes attached. They bring no new features, no new advantages, and they are far , far more consumer unfriendly. Ergo, they dont put any pressure on Valve at all.
Conservative and regressive is not what I would call it either, it has gotten more and more open with time.
LelouchZero
Member
I loved playing Fallout Shelter! It was really awesome and held me over until Fallout 4 came out!
Now I'm too scared to launch it again... I fear the worst for my Vault Dwellers, I haven't played the game since Fallout 4 came out.
Another launcher is a bit of an annoyance but it's not too big of a deal for me, I just don't know if I feel like playing this game again though, I'll have to try it and see.
Now I'm too scared to launch it again... I fear the worst for my Vault Dwellers, I haven't played the game since Fallout 4 came out.
Another launcher is a bit of an annoyance but it's not too big of a deal for me, I just don't know if I feel like playing this game again though, I'll have to try it and see.
Lol same here. I'm sure if I go back everyone will be dead. xD
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I guess the simple math is that they'll need about 70% of the userbase they'd get by being on Steam in order to break even with their new platform. This assume both groups spend at the same rate.
Vipershark
Member
It *does* explicitly tell you that the radio room greatly increases the chances of a deathclaw encounter, and I'm pretty sure it mentions somewhere that sending dwellers out alerts things to the location of your vault. It never specifcally says that if you don't send your people you won't get hit (since Raiders still show up) but it's pretty much common sense.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So, is this worth it or should I just wait for the Vault-Tec DLC?
SkinnerSw33t
Member
I played it for about an hour, and that was enough for me. Time waster, and not deep enough.
I'm pretty sure they mean the menu kind of launchers. Where you'd get a little image along with buttons like "Install", "Play", "Settings", "Official Website", "Help" and so on. A lot of PC games used to have that kind of a launcher way back when.
Was back before Steam, during the joyous days of Securom.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
oh it's free
ok then
ok then