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[Orgen]

no mainline Pokemon, DQ, MonHun or even FF this last year eh?

P.S: Thanks for the additional info Road!

 

[Danny 117]

CTRL-F "MGS HD Collection", "Metal Gear Solid" "MGS"

 

[yurinka]

Software sales for the launch year.

2000 PS2 - 7.6 million. 21 games over 120k.
2001 GBA - 7.1 million. 16 games over 120k.
2011 3DS - 7.1 million. 11 (12?) games over 120k.


Yearly software decline of the predecessor:

PS: 37.9* -> 27.1 million
GB: 12.1 -> 7.2 million
DS: 22.3 -> 7.4 million


*Not all software, only sales inside the top 300.

Interesting. Do we have PSP numbers?
PS3 and Wii numbers also would help to consider 3DS and Vita context because they are more recent.
PS: Why the PS2, GBA and 3DS numbers that appear in the bottom of the page isn't the same you post? They are the same, aren't they?

CTRL-F "MGS HD Collection", "Metal Gear Solid" "MGS"

MGS HD Collection is 2012, not 2011

 

[kswiston]

Software sales for the launch year.

2000 PS2 - 7.6 million. 21 games over 120k.
2001 GBA - 7.1 million. 16 games over 120k.
2011 3DS - 7.1 million. 11 (12?) games over 120k.


Yearly software decline of the predecessor:

PS: 37.9* -> 27.1 million
GB: 12.1 -> 7.2 million
DS: 22.3 -> 7.4 million


*Not all software, only sales inside the top 300.

Makes sense that 3DS had fewer 120k sellers than other systems. The top 4 games make up half of the total sales. I don't remember early PS2 sales being as skewed. Has any other system had 3 million sellers year 1?

 

[Chris1964]

Next year it's almost sure Japan will rise again. This wasn't so bad year for software as it looks, the problem is there weren't the big hitters.

MGS HD Collection is 2012, not 2011

It came out.

 

[Mpl90]

Next year it's almost sure Japan will rise again. This wasn't so bad year for software as it looks, the problem is there weren't the big hitters.

That's sure, since it won't be another transition year, like 2011, where, as you said, the medium tier games did well (some of them VERY well, like Xillia and Gundam Extreme Vs. ), but there were no main Pokemon, no main Dragon Quest, no 2D Mario.

Moreover, we already know a possible million seller for 2012: Mario Kart 7

 

[yurinka]

It came out.

Sorry, since it isn't released here in Europe I thought it wasn't released.
Just checked the dates here :
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid:_HD_Collection
It was released both JP and US in november.

 

[Orgen]

That's sure, since it won't be another transition year, like 2011, where, as you said, the medium tier games did well (some of them VERY well, like Graces and Gundam Extreme Vs. ), but there were no main Pokemon, no main Dragon Quest, no 2D Mario.

Moreover, we already know a possible million seller for 2012: Mario Kart 7

Xillia Mr. Comgnet ;P

And yes, 2012 will be better than 2011 software wise. Now, will 2012 reach 60 million?

 

[Road]

Interesting. Do we have PSP numbers?
PS3 and Wii numbers also would help to consider 3DS and Vita context because they are more recent.

I don't think those are helpful because those systems were released in Nov/Dec. I posted PS2 and GBA because they were released closer to the 3DS in March, so their first year is very similar in length.

Also, we don't have information to give complete software sales for each platform in any period we choose (say the first 10 months, to compare to the 3DS), only the calendar years.

PS: Why the PS2, GBA and 3DS numbers that appear in the bottom of the page isn't the same you post? They are the same, aren't they?

The numbers I posted are the sum of all software sold for each system. The numbers on Garaph (or pretty much any other site or database you see around) are the sum of data for each game gathered from weekly top 30, yearly top 100 and such other restricted top rankings. Not every single game appear inside these tops, thus the total sales is obviously higher than adding the sales we manage to collect publicly.

 

[Mpl90]

Xillia Mr. Comgnet ;P

And yes, 2012 will be better than 2011 software wise. Now, will 2012 reach 60 million?

Ok, I corrected
2012 will reach 60 millions if two 4-5 million seller games will be released again as in 2010. Or if there will be a hughe amount of medium-high tier sellers alongside other million / 2 million sellers...it's so unpredictable, right now

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

For those that don't live in Media Create threads. And additional info for those that do.

[PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (SCE) {2011-12-17} - 68.743
[PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (SCE) {2011-12-17} - 58.213
[PSV] Dynasty Warriors Next (Koei Tecmo) {2011-12-17} - 45.242

Since this is only Vita's second week and we already had week one numbers for those, we can calculate the second week for those games. 17K, 15K, and 13K respectively.

 

[thestopsign]

I predict Mario Kart 7 will sell better in 2012 than in 2011, so we will have at least one game that is higher than 2011's #1 game. Then we have Animal Crossing, Friend Collection, and DQM (possibly, will be close). So overall I think the top sellers will be higher than 2011, definitely not the heights of 2010's top though. I also think there will be a stronger mid-range 500k+ seller region, only 11 games managed over 500k this year, looking at the planned software and continuing legs of games released in 2011 I see 15 or more at least.

 

[Chris1964]

[U]Software Sales by Platform:[/U]

	2011	2010

PSP	13,9	16,2
PS3	12,1	10,0
WII	 8,8	11,7
DS	 7,4	22,3
3DS	 7,1	
Xbox360	 1,4	 1,7
Vita	 0,4	
PS2	 0,2	 0,8

Total	51,1	62,8 million units

(Based on market share for all software sales.)

That means PS2 will remain the king

[PSP] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2004.12.12} - 13.900.000 / 67.869.000
[PS3] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2006.11.11} - 12.100.000 / 38.670.000
[WII] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2006.12.02} - 8.800.000 / 60.997.000
[NDS] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2004.12.02} - 7.400.000 / 176.926.000
[3DS] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2011.02.26} - 7.100.000 / 7.100.000
[360] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2005.12.10} - 1.400.000 / 9.459.000
[PSV] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2011.12.17} - 400.000 / 400.000
[PS2] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2000.03.04} - 200.000 / 197.053.000

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

Man, the Japanese seem even more resistant to fresh, new ideas than us westerners.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So wheres Skyrim?

If it had released earlier in the year it might have had a chance. Through its second week the PS3 version was at 88K; the Top 100 goes through the game's third week.

041 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006-05-25} - 254.452 / 6.269.677
060 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 185.452 / 3.894.723

I said wow. Games are 6 years old for crying out loud.

It's even funnier when you know that Mario Kart DS actually increased by 40k compared to 2010.

This got me to thinking it would be nice to look at the line of sales and more easily tell the years, so I did a little tweaking. Each of the vertical lines here is the start of a new year. It's always January 1, though, so the division isn't exactly what Famitsu would consider a year.

Interesting to notice when looked at this way, MKDS is just now reaching where NSMB was five years ago.

That Amagami number is the PSP version.

http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/4743

I just checked Garpah and there's a mistake: The PSP YTD was added to the PS2 game.

lol

Noticed the same thing when adding the "Top 3" lists from the first post, got it switched. But the #1 mistake I made in the Top 100 and didn't notice until setting up the above image, was that NSMB did not appear to have its new year end total. Where'd it go?

 

[Road]

Now we know why Konami is acting like they aren't a business but a failed circus, look at all those sales under the radar.

 

[kswiston]

That means PS2 will remain the king

[PSP] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2004.12.12} - 13.900.000 / 67.869.000
[PS3] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2006.11.11} - 12.100.000 / 38.670.000
[WII] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2006.12.02} - 8.800.000 / 60.997.000
[NDS] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2004.12.02} - 7.400.000 / 176.926.000
[3DS] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2011.02.26} - 7.100.000 / 7.100.000
[360] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2005.12.10} - 1.400.000 / 9.459.000
[PSV] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2011.12.17} - 400.000 / 400.000
[PS2] Software Sales (All Publishers) {2000.03.04} - 200.000 / 197.053.000

I am surprised that the DS got so close. I know that it had a lot more million sellers than the PS2, but I thought for some reason that the PS2 did better in the mid-sellers category (200k+).

Super impressive for a handheld system.

 

[Zeppelin]

Microsoft should really give up Japan. They don't seem to care for western games that much over there. Even a game like Uncharted 3 didn't chart better than 69th.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Microsoft should really give up Japan. They don't seem to care for western games that much over there. Even a game like Uncharted 3 didn't chart better than 69th.

Donkey Kong Country is at 25. CoD is at 39.

 

[Hasemo]

While Dark Souls proudly sold well in Japan, it is nice to see the Tales of franchise go back to its former glory and to witness an Imageepoch game break the 100k bar. Check dat LTD for Mario Sports Mix and Super Mario All-Stars.

I personally think the Black Rock Shooter game was pretty bad, so I wouldn't call it a pleasant surprise.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Sony had a great year. Nintendo did too, but DS and Wii fell off like a rock.

Why is it that Sony systems hold longer than Nintendo systems? It's always been like this, I feel, even for Nintendo's successes like GBA and DS, their software just falls off a cliff once they announce a new system or release one....crazy

 

[Gaspode_T]

023 [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008-04-10} - 402.712 / 3.380.348
035 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009-12-03} - 284.540 / 4.369.535
041 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006-05-25} - 254.452 / 6.269.677
059 [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {2009-10-01} - 187.985 / 2.336.182
060 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 185.452 / 3.894.723

Mario Kart DS...a game released in 2005...charting here is quite amazing...these games are sold at pretty decent prices too...that's called printing money

 

[Takao]

Sony had a great year. Nintendo did too, but DS and Wii fell off like a rock.

Why is it that Sony systems hold longer than Nintendo systems? It's always been like this, I feel, even for Nintendo's successes like GBA and DS, their software just falls off a cliff once they announce a new system or release one....crazy

They actually support their platforms... then again if supporting platforms mattered the Wii wouldn't have ever had a pulse.

 

[donny2112]

Why is it that Sony systems hold longer than Nintendo systems? It's always been like this, I feel, even for Nintendo's successes like GBA and DS,

Lack of third-party support. Yes, even for the DS. We've been discussing the strange absence of DS releases compared to PSP releases since early 2009. At first it seemed that maybe publishers were trying to avoid DQIX, which was originally scheduled to come out in early 2009. However, the releases didn't really pick back up once it came out, either. PSP kept getting games, even if they were the niche/lower-tier PS2 kind of games, along with Monster Hunter. Being easily ported from PS2 probably helped in that case. Therefore, it's not the manufacturer specifically, but rather how that system is supported by the industry (and Nintendo, for Nintendo systems) that keeps it going or not.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

They actually support their platforms... then again if supporting platforms mattered the Wii wouldn't have ever had a pulse.

Ehh. Late first party support is pretty fine on both sides.

Sony's year five PS2 releases: 15 new games and 4 "Bests", reaching about 2.4 million sales in the end.
Sony's year five PS3 releases: 11 new games, 4 HD rereleases, and 2 "Bests", reaching about 1.2 million sales with last known data.
Nintendo's year five Wii releases: 11 new games, reaching about 3.5 million sales with last known data.

Sony's year seven PSP releases: 3 new games, reaching about 340K with last known data.
Nintendo's year seven DS releaes: 4 new games, reaching about 850K with last known data.

There might be some that would add to the above that didn't make it to the Top 30, but I think it's fair to say they weren't very important. One of those DS games was actually a single-week #30.

 

[electroplankton]

Sony had a great year. Nintendo did too, but DS and Wii fell off like a rock.

Why is it that Sony systems hold longer than Nintendo systems? It's always been like this, I feel, even for Nintendo's successes like GBA and DS, their software just falls off a cliff once they announce a new system or release one....crazy

In my opinion, Nintendo platforms, handheld in particular, become mainstream almost immediately, at least in the last years. Therefore, if Sony can exploit its consoles when the successors came out by relying on a wider audience, Nintendo has to bring the userbase from one platform to the other one immediately.