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Famitsu 2011 Top 100 - Japanese Sales

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
so if I'm reading it right the PS2 saw a 600,000 (75%) unit drop in total software sales? It's been a very very long road but it looks like 2012 may be the year it finally stops selling entirely.

Three new releases charted for PS2 on a weekly basis in 2011.

Amagami (EBKore+) 138,175
Sangoku Koi Senki: Otome no Heihou! Prototype 3,534
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 9,548

I'm not sure how many games were released and didn't chart, but given how shitty software sales were in general, you'd have to REALLY tank not to chart on week one. By contrast, 37 charted in 2010.

I'm not sure when catalog sales will 100% stop as in 0 units--the PS1 and GBA have still showed up periodically in the Top 500 charts for the last few years--but the PS2 was totally dead in any meaningful way for 2011
 

Gaborn

Member
Three new releases charted for PS2 on a weekly basis in 2011.

Amagami (EBKore+) 138,175
Sangoku Koi Senki: Otome no Heihou! Prototype 3,534
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 9,548

I'm not sure how many games were released and didn't chart, but given how shitty software sales were in general, you'd have to REALLY tank not to chart on week one. By contrast, 37 charted in 2010.

I'm not sure when catalog sales will 100% stop as in 0 units--the PS1 and GBA have still showed up periodically in the Top 500 charts for the last few years--but the PS2 was totally dead in any meaningful way for 2011

I guess by "stops selling" I meant "hardware sales no longer tracked by Famitsu/MediaCreate."

In other words I'm sort of making an apple to oranges comparison, taking the 600k decrease in total software sales from 800k in 2010 to 200k in 2011 and guessing that in addition to noticeable drop again in PS2 hardware sales to 58k units that it will be even more negligible and perhaps no longer tracked by the end of 2012. It's been a long slow spiral, but the fact the drop in total software sales was so severe tells me even more than the slow hardware sales that active interest in the platform is negligible.
 
And Xenoblade doesn't even chart in the top 100. Japan, you have failed us all and I'm taking razor blades to my wrists over the fact that nobody in Japan has good fucking taste.

If you guys are wondering why Big N seems so ambivalent about the OpRainfall games, this list illustrates why.


VVV Well HERP MY DERP then :x Still, Last Story not performing... great is a bit telling. It was outsold by Ao no Kiseki, which is a bit niche, never mind Tales of Xillia.
 

Road

Member
Three new releases charted for PS2 on a weekly basis in 2011.

Amagami (EBKore+) 138,175
Sangoku Koi Senki: Otome no Heihou! Prototype 3,534
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 9,548

I'm not sure how many games were released and didn't chart, but given how shitty software sales were in general, you'd have to REALLY tank not to chart on week one. By contrast, 37 charted in 2010.

I'm not sure when catalog sales will 100% stop as in 0 units--the PS1 and GBA have still showed up periodically in the Top 500 charts for the last few years--but the PS2 was totally dead in any meaningful way for 2011

That Amagami number is the PSP version.

http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/4743

I just checked Garpah and there's a mistake: The PSP YTD was added to the PS2 game.


And Xenoblade doesn't even chart in the top 100. Japan, you have failed us all and I'm taking razor blades to my wrists over the fact that nobody in Japan has good fucking taste.

If you guys are wondering why Big N seems so ambivalent about the OpRainfall games, this list illustrates why.
Well, Xenoblade was released in 2010 in Japan and it did chart then: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419169
 

mugwhump

Member
Mario
Mario
Monster Hunter
Monster Hunter
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy
derpity
herpity
Wii
Wii

The top 10 comes in pairs!
 
On the plus side, those are Not Bad Numbers for Ao no Kiseki; that's as much in a couple months as Trails in the Sky FC sold in like five years. I suspect Ao will have similar long legs and continue to sell for a good long time.
 

shuri

Banned
It's pretty incredible -- this post opened my eyes to how small the jpn market is. The last entry in the top100 has 130k sales, thats.. TERRIBLE :O

I dont even want to imagine how little other titles sell.
 

kswiston

Member
It's pretty incredible -- this post opened my eyes to how small the jpn market is. The last entry in the top100 has 130k sales, thats.. TERRIBLE :O

I dont even want to imagine how little other titles sell.

It looks like the entire software market was 51M units last year. Not sure how that compares to the US, but Japan is still a pretty big market when you consider it is a single country. It's just not a third of the global market anymore like it was in the 16bit days.
 
031 [PS3] Dark Souls (From Software) {2011-09-22} - 334.302

055 [PS3] Catherine (Atlus) {2011-02-17} - 206.557

058 [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) {2011-09-29} - 194.940

074 [PSP] 7th Dragon 2020 (SEGA) {2011-11-23} - 153.752

Now once the latter two join the former two in my consoles I be completely happy.
 

okenny

Banned
Well, in Japanese 360 gaming is really dead.

Probably
FIXED!

EDIT: I should elaborate...
Either that top 100 are mostly making a profit or the Japanese are making game incredibly efficient way or that market is dying because those numbers are kind of sad for YTD.
 

mihon

Member
I was refering to XIII-2, with all taken into consideration is a mainline title.

FF Mainline is pretty dead, specially for me.

I was hoping Type-zero could be a new line and it could be good.

If not, FF will be officially dead for me. I'll stick with DQ (although I'm getting little scared with those MMO ideas... :( )
 
The lowest since 1996:

1996 [NGB] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue (Nintendo) {1996-02-27} - 1.663.861
1997 [NGB] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue (Nintendo) {1996-02-27} - 3.995.992 / 5.659.853
1998 [NGB] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow (Nintendo) {1996-02-27} - 3.006.067 / 8.665.920
1999 [NGB] Pokemon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999-11-21} - 3.628.627
2000 [PS1] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden (Enix) {2000-08-26} - 3.784.682
2001 [PS2] Final Fantasy X (Square) {2001-07-19} - 2.264.047
2002 [GBA] Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {2002-11-21} - 3.197.762
2003 [PS2] Final Fantasy X-2 (Square Enix) {2003-03-13} - 1.941.727
2004 [PS2] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (Square Enix) {2004-11-27} - 3.231.288
2005 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) {2005-11-23} - 1.169.757
2006 [NDS] Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (Pokemon Co.) {2006-09-28} - 4.302.815
2007 [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) {2006-12-02} - 1.911.520 / 2.464.734
2008 [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (Capcom) {2008-03-27} - 2.452.111
2009 [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix) {2009-07-11} - 4.100.968
2010 [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {2010-09-18} - 4.914.813
2011 [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011-12-01} - 1.082.391

To be fair to Mario Kart it did launch in the last month of the year, had it released earlier on it easily would have broken 2 million. Same with Animal Crossing in 2005, if that or Mario Kart DS had of been released earlier in the year they would have been higher.

On a side note it scares me that the early Pokemon games led the charts there for 1996 to 1998 only to be dethroned by Silver/Gold.

Sucks that Layton 5 and Inazuma Eleven 3DS didn't do better, but really happy to see the success Kirby has been having.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Road said:
The Japan Top 100 of a year is probably the equivalent of a December NPD Top 100 in the US.

Well the Japanese economy has been in poor shape for a long time now, and just enduring a year of Earthquake, Tsunami, and (near) nuclear catastrophe isn't an ideal business climate for luxury goods like games.
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I had to double check to make sure it was 2011 and not 2012 so far. Is the market there really that small?
 

kswiston

Member
Not in Japan, that's for damn sure.

Actually the PS3 version of Skyrim is probably in the 100k range by now. We got numbers for its first two weeks of release, and it was up to 88k after a 17k second week. Skyrim will show up in the top 500 when that is released next Spring.

360 version is somewhere around 30k. Skyrim did alright for a Western game.
 

Kenka

Member
The Pleasant Surprises

014 [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei Tecmo) {2011-03-10} - 470.773
017 [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-01} - 432.391
021 [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (Konami) {2011-10-06} - 405.757
024 [PSP] Super Robot Wars Z 2nd: Hakai-Hen (Bandai Namco) {2011-04-14} - 398.017
025 [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) {2010-12-09} - 392.050 / 952.018
031 [PS3] Dark Souls (From Software) {2011-09-22} - 334.302
038 [PSP] Taiko Drum Master Portable DX (Bandai Namco) {2011-07-14} - 265.635
039 [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Subtitled Edition (Square Enix) {2011-11-17} - 258.215
040 [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast (Pokemon Co.) {2011-08-11} - 256.387
047 [WII] Mario Sports Mix (Nintendo) {2010-11-25} - 222.960 / 645.005
055 [PS3] Catherine (Atlus) {2011-02-17} - 206.557
068 [PS3] Gekijouban Macross F: Sayonara no Tsubasa - Hybrid Pack (Bandai Namco) {2011-10-20} - 164.578
070 [WII] Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition (Nintendo) {2010-10-21} - 163.391 / 916.410
074 [PSP] 7th Dragon 2020 (SEGA) {2011-11-23} - 153.752
078 [3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo) {2011-02-26} - 147.777
085 [PSP] Kenka Banchou 5: Otoko no Housoku (Spike) {2011-01-27} - 137.146
086 [PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game (Imageepoch) {2011-08-25} - 135.951
008 [PS3] Tales of Xillia (Bandai Namco) {2011-09-08} - 632.151
030 [PSP] SD Gundam G Generation: World (Bandai Namco) {2011-02-24} - 336.699
069 [PS3] Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (SCE) {2011-11-02} - 164.266
058 [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) {2011-09-29} - 194.940
While Dark Souls proudly sold well in Japan, it is nice to see the Tales of franchise go back to its former glory and to witness an Imageepoch game break the 100k bar. Check dat LTD for Mario Sports Mix and Super Mario All-Stars.

The Shy Guys

071 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen! The Ogre (Level 5) {2010-12-16} - 159.562 / 455.558
072 [WII] The Last Story (Nintendo) {2011-01-27} - 157.359
092 [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 131.831
093 [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep - Final Mix (Square Enix) {2011-01-20} - 131.177
094 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience - Boost (Level 5) {2011-11-23} - 130.198
095 [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) {2010-10-14} - 129.450 / 483.248
045 [NDS] Ni no Kuni: Shikkoku no Madoushi (Level 5) {2010-12-09} - 237.132 / 569.443
050 [NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom) {2011-02-03} - 219.682
034 [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack (Nintendo) {2011-08-04} - 310.133
Kirby, The Last Story and Taiko Drum Master sales are really not where they should be. Mixed results for Taiko especially since the PSP version sold bloody well although it historically made its biggest numbers on DS.

The Neutral

007 [WII] Rhythm Heaven Fever (Nintendo) {2011-07-21} - 633.429
011 [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 Professional (Square Enix) {2011-03-31} - 528.648
020 [PS3] Yakuza: Dead Souls (SEGA) {2011-06-09} - 409.949
006 [PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 (Square Enix) {2011-10-27} - 696.428 012 [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) {2011-10-27} - 498.428
013 [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {2011-06-16} - 498.145
027 [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (SEGA) {2011-02-24} - 373.309
All thse games performed ok although you could argue it is not the case with Type-0. Personally, I would have bet money on its potential to become a million-seller.

The "Holy Cow !"

041 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006-05-25} - 254.452 / 6.269.677
060 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005-12-08} - 185.452 / 3.894.723
Goddamn monsters from the 80's (well, early 90's for Mario Kart).





On a side note it scares me that the early Pokemon games led the charts there for 1996 to 1998 only to be dethroned by Silver/Gold.
You needed both another Pokémon AND Dragon Quest. Incredible that both the best-selling Final Fantasy episodes ever don't show up in these charts. FF VII and FF VIII sold in excess of 3.5M but are nowhere to be seen, being vaccumed by Pokémon's muscle storm.
 

Kenka

Member
Does anyone have DK's last score when it charted and the corresponding week ? It would help us determine if it can cross he 1M bar this year.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
No, it doesn't suck that a company pumping out annual throw away sequels is starting to feel the burn.

Throw away sequels ? Since you already have played IE GO, how does it compare to the original DS trilogy ?
 

Takao

Banned
Throw away sequels ? Since you already have played IE GO, how does it compare to the original DS trilogy ?

Throw away in the sense that it's blatant milking. Duckroll said Level-5 billed Layton and Inazuma Eleven as trilogies, and now suddenly they aren't.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Throw away in the sense that it's blatant milking. Duckroll said Level-5 billed Layton and Inazuma Eleven as trilogies, and now suddenly they aren't.

Which company doesn't release follow ups to their most successful IPs ? GO is on 3DS, features a complete new story/characters and engine and will probay end up selling 400-500K on 3DS. L5 hate-force act like they are loosing money off those titles, just because they are selling less than before. MK and MH are way bigger than any L5 IP, so expecting DS like IE sales when a MH/MK were just able to sell more than a million sounds naive to me.

I haven't played Layton in a while, but IE was a pretty innovative concept to begin with, so I can't criticize them for milking it while it lasts.
 

Erethian

Member
Which company doesn't release follow ups to their most successful IPs ? GO is on 3DS, features a complete new story/characters and engine and will probay end up selling 400-500K on 3DS. L5 hate-force act like they are loosing money off those titles, just because they are selling less than before. MK and MH are way bigger than any L5 IP, so expecting DS like IE sales when a MH/MK were just able to sell more than a million sounds naive to me.

I haven't played Layton in a while, but IE was a pretty innovative concept to begin with, so I can't criticize them for milking it while it lasts.

I'd say the main problem isn't so much the milking as the lack of new franchises, specifically in terms of those that have a lot of cross media promotion.

Doesn't seem like Level 5 has had a terribly cohesive transition strategy as those older IPs start to get long in the tooth. Or the things they have tried just haven't paid off.
 

Takao

Banned
I'd say the main problem isn't so much the milking as the lack of new franchises, specifically in terms of those that have a lot of cross media promotion.

Doesn't seem like Level 5 has had a terribly cohesive transition strategy as those older IPs start to get long in the tooth. Or the things they have tried just haven't paid off.

LBX is successful, but they'll run that in to the ground soon enough.
 

Thoraxes

Member
I haven't played Layton in a while, but IE was a pretty innovative concept to begin with, so I can't criticize them for milking it while it lasts.

The newer Layton games have really been better than the previous iteration, it's just that we're talking about Mario Kart-style changes that occur in a singular game once every 4-5 years (or one game per system), occuring in almost a new Layton game on a year-by-year basis.

If they were spread out a bit more I think they'd have sold better and wouldn't have felt like they're just doing one every year because they can.
 

yurinka

Member
Software Sales by Platform:

2011 2010

PSP 13,9 16,2
PS3 12,1 10,0
WII 8,8 11,7
DS 7,4 22,3
3DS 7,1
Xbox360 1,4 1,7
Vita 0,4
PS2 0,2 0,8

Total 51,1 62,8 million units

(Based on market share for all software sales.)[/code]
So:

2011
1st : Sony 26.6M
2nd : Nintendo 23.3M
3rd : Microsoft 1.4M

2010
1st : Nintendo 34M
2nd : Sony 27M
3rd : Microsoft 1.7M

Sony is the top1 in 2011, even showing a small decline YoY, due to the upcoming replacement of their handheld and the fade of the old PS2. Their PS3 is the only growing system YoY and PSP even being replaced by the next gen is the best selling system.

Nintendo huge decline can be explained because their handheld device has been replaced this year by the next one, and their home console is being replace for the next gen one. But even combining DS+3DS 2011 numbers, it's quite far from the DS 2010. And they didn't moved to PSP.

I would say it's expained due to the 3 biggest 3DS titles being released too late in year so maybe users where waiting for more great games, the too high HW price the device had at launch, and that in 2011 there are less recent DS big games compared to 2010. If it isn't due this, I think this would be the first time we have a number proving smartphone sales hurting Nintendo handheld SW sales. Which I would say it isn't the case.
 
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