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[Kokoloko85]

PS4 sold 322,000+ on its first 2 days.
PS3 sold like 80,000+
I was expecting more. Maybe covid has caused issues

 

[Michael Hawk]

Horrible numbers.

I don't think it has anything to do with Covid because Japan has been trending away from consoles for almost a decade now. Probably pre-sold more consoles in places like Germany.

 

[down 2 orth]

Lol, "caused by covid". That's not how manufacturing in China works.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I remember when people laughed at a report that Sony has stock issues and even Sony said Nothing to see here. And people believed. It is pretty obvious they have issues with the stock.

Also, it seems indeed Xbox did not need launch titles. By the time the exclusive games come to Xbox, the issues with the production will be fixed.

I don't think it has anything to do with Covid because Japan has been trending away from consoles for almost a decade now. Probably pre-sold more consoles in places like Germany.

Also, PS5 is just kinda big for Japanese houses. MS should create XSS with Japanese flag color though

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Console gaming is basically dead in Japan. Other Asian territories are becoming more important now.

 

[QuantumZebra]

As a Wii U launch buyer, those Wii U numbers are shameful. 10 consoles would have been too much. Fucking trash heap of a console that was. I will never not be bitter about that fucking trainwreck (I was a shareholder at the time of the launch, fuck me what a bag of shit that was)

*side eyes his Wii U over in the corner*

I liked it, lol

 

[lachesis]

Line Research - Japanese Console Ownership

Here's an interesting research by "Line" - a popular messenger service in Japan over 5M high school students on what game systems do they have in their home. The article that I came across was about a month ago. (Oct 2020)

3DS being #1, Wii #2, Switch (not Lite ver) being #3, DS being #4, Wii U at #5. PS4 on #6, followed by Vita as #7 etc...
Other interesting thing about the games they play - as well - at least 80%+ Nintendo games.

Many kids consider Playstation as old-man console in Japan, the ones who's holding onto their youth in early-mid Heisei years. That doesn’t bode well for both Sony and to certain degree, Microsoft which Xbox has almost nil recognition in mainstream market. It's like young kids think of Facebook as old people's SNS, where as Nintendo always held onto their market.

And thus it's understandable that Sony is focusing on the West where it's still growing. Some of the responses regarding PS in Japan was little surprising: The idea that Kids would grow out of Nintendo to more mature PS as they get older... is really proven false in this case, at least in Japanese market.

Seeing the data that PS5 sold 118k, and MS sold 21k, touting how well they are doing in whatever means necessary... TBH, it’s like seeing a network TV rating competition analysis. All of them are tanking YOY, yet they each claim #1 show in the time slot! To me it sounds like "oh, my ship is sinking slower than yours" measurement...

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

any kids consider Playstation as old-man console in Japan, the ones who's holding onto their youth in early-mid Heisei years

Oh, wow. Did not know about that.

Seeing the data that PS5 sold 118k, and MS sold 21k, touting how well they are doing in whatever means necessary.

The thing is that they have just run out of stock. So it doesn't tell a full story.

 

[yurinka]

PS4 sold 322,000+ on its first 2 days.
PS3 sold like 80,000+
I was expecting more. Maybe covid has caused issues

Horrible numbers.

I don't think it has anything to do with Covid because Japan has been trending away from consoles for almost a decade now. Probably pre-sold more consoles in places like Germany.

Both consoles are sold out.

Unlike with the other consoles, they made the launch in way more countries than MS and Sony they ever did, and Sony also had for a week later (tomorrow) their launch for the rest of countries.

Both MS and Sony said they shipped more units worldwide for launch that they ever did, but launching in more countries at the same times means less consoles per country. Japan is a small market for both MS and Sony, so if they had to move more units to their main markets and remove from less important countries, many countries like Japan received less units.

So looking it on a global scale seems they will have their best launch ever. Specially if PS5 outsells PS4 launch it will be the best console launch ever. Japan is simply a small country for them compared to NA and Europe, so don't care too much about it so had few units for launch.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

lol'ed my tits clean off

I bet they're firm and perky.

Was there a cold breeze?

 

[lachesis]

Oh, wow. Did not know about that.

I was also pretty shocked while I was reading up some responses in some other related threads too... perhaps it's individual case, but it certainly felt like what "Playstation" means to young people is quite different of what my generation, or at least how I feel about it. Suddenly felt like a very very uncool old man.

Nintendo sells to Kids, Family and to Seniors
Playstation sells to single men / middle aged men.

And unlike their own prediction of kids growing from Nintendo to PS... nope, When they grow out of Nintendo, and any serious gamers would just jump to PC it seems, and pass on Nintendo to their own kids.

As per the PS5 though - I think it will hold what PS4 has done in Japan as status quo.. but their major growth will be on the West. I am afraid it will become as western company as Xbox is now. Xbox... although I like their HW, the chances of making in Japanese market is very slim - and all really depends on how they can market their GamePass and XCloud to the mobile users. In either case, I just hope that we'll get the steady and strong flow of Japanese games on either platforms. I love my Switch, but I also want to see some highend games for proper 4k consoles...

 

[Dr Bass]

As a Wii U launch buyer, those Wii U numbers are shameful. 10 consoles would have been too much. Fucking trash heap of a console that was. I will never not be bitter about that fucking trainwreck (I was a shareholder at the time of the launch, fuck me what a bag of shit that was)

I'm a share holder now and will be for a long time.

I liked the Wii U.

I like the Switch.

I sorta just like fun video games regardless of platform. Go Nintendo, Sony, MS.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

When they grow out of Nintendo, and any serious gamers would just jump to PC it seems

The platform of the men

P.s. now that I think PC is probably due to esports - like fighting games or MOBAs
P.p.s anime girls mods for Skyrim also

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Breakage]

Isn't space limited in Japanese homes? The size of the PS5 can't be helping matters.

 

[PleaseWaitStation4]

XSX and XSS sold out that they actually had to depend on lotteries..

That's a first for Xbox.

*lights cigarette

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

Remember all of those Japanese kids pointing at the original Xbox and laughing at its size? I can only imagine what they think of the PS5.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Japan just getting more and more irrelevant with each passing generation.
Honestly surprised the Xbox did that much. Can’t really take anything from the numbers other than even Sony don’t even value Japan much anymore.

 

[Craig of War]

PS5 and XSX are too big for Japan they like small size and handheld console design.

 

[Techies]

Just a lack of supply.

 

[Woopah]

Nintendo sells to Kids, Family and to Seniors
Playstation sells to single men / middle aged men.

And unlike their own prediction of kids growing from Nintendo to PS... nope, When they grow out of Nintendo, and any serious gamers would just jump to PC it seems, and pass on Nintendo to their own kids.

I'm not even sure this is true. From the sales it looks like the kids who grew up on DS and 3DS have moved onto Switch. That's one of Nintendo's strengths is their appeal to a very wide age range.

 

[Bodomism]

Japan just getting more and more irrelevant with each passing generation.
Honestly surprised the Xbox did that much. Can’t really take anything from the numbers other than even Sony don’t even value Japan much anymore.

I don't think that's true.

Nintendo Switch is selling around 16 million units over there which is bigger than UK+France+Germany combined and about to finish above 25 million units LTD.

 

[Evil Calvin]

次世代機の初週販売速報。PS5は発売4日間で11.8万台、Xbox Series X|Sは発売6日間で2.1万台を販売 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com

ファミ通調べによる、次世代機（プレイステーション5、Xbox Series X|S）の初週の国内推定販売台数をお届けする。

s.famitsu.com

Best selling PS5 games are Spidey MM and DS remake at 18K units sold.

Previous consoles launch numbers comparison

Wii U: 308,600
Wii: 371,900
PS4: 322,100
Switch: 330,637

Japan doesn't like to support non-Japanese products, or at least American ones. MS can do nothing to sell more consoles.

 

[Bodomism]

Just a lack of supply.

Every console in a launch week was supply constrained but the issue here is the allotment size.

Japanese gamers are angry and mad at Sony because it's pretty much pointless to launch with a small shipments despite launching earlier than Europe since most of the consoles were sold to the scalpers/resellers and not the actual PS5 customers.

 

[Azelover]

Horrible numbers.

I don't think it has anything to do with Covid because Japan has been trending away from consoles for almost a decade now. Probably pre-sold more consoles in places like Germany.

Almost a decade? You forget about the DS and when that came?

I say the Switch brought forth a solution that has resurrected home console gaming in Japan.

 

[LittleBusters]

21K units in Japan is nothing to scoff at. Especially considering the really important games have yet to come. Fable I think will do big in Japan.

 

[LittleBusters]

Isn't space limited in Japanese homes? The size of the PS5 can't be helping matters.

Also the XSS is very space-friendly for Japanese shoebox apartments! Make it all-digital and they don't even need to worry about storing discs.

 

[MrFunSocks]

I don't think that's true.

Nintendo Switch is selling around 16 million units over there which is bigger than UK+France+Germany combined and about to finish above 25 million units LTD.

I should've been more specific - to the home console market. Handheld they're a huge market.

 

[Bodomism]

Japan doesn't like to support non-Japanese products, or at least American ones. MS can do nothing to sell more consoles.

Apple says hi.