Rogue Agent
Banned
Me too. I hope there's much more depth. Glad that they're expanding on PW's play-style.
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Famitsu's new MGSV Ground Zeroes interview with Kojima clears up some details
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Me too. I hope there's much more depth. Glad that they're expanding on PW's play-style.
Is Phantom Pain is a full priced release? If so, now I'm MAD just like everyone else.
Hopefully, other publishers look the other way and don't use this model.
I need 45 missions included in this game to justify the purchase because there's a full game coming. For the love of god, please don't let this game be one mission split into 5-10 different parts. I need multiple environments and weather.
Hopefully, other publishers look the other way and don't use this model.
I need 45 missions included in this game to justify the purchase because there's a full game coming. For the love of god, please don't let this game be one mission split into 5-10 different parts. I need multiple environments and weather.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Peace Walker base management/recruiting making a comeback is meh
Hopefully the systems will be better designed/less of a grind. It's not on portable anymore so hopefully they ditched the monster hunter influences.
I'd rather it be more like PO than PW
Didn't people pay more than that for half the tanker mission and ZoE?
Hopefully the systems will be better designed/less of a grind. It's not on portable anymore so hopefully they ditched the monster hunter influences.
I'd rather it be more like PO than PW
This is like the tanker in Mgs2...for 20 bucks.
Didn't people pay more than that for half the tanker mission and ZoE?
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Deleted member 126221
Unconfirmed Member
Oh, if ZoE3 is included, then yeah, I won't complain! But I really doubt that will happen...
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Oh, if ZoE3 is included, then yeah, I won't complain! But I really doubt that will happen...
That's not comparable.
What would be comparable would be packaging a Ground Zeroes demo with some low budget new IP that came out of nowhere that no one would have any prior interest in without the inclusion of the demo, for full price.
I prefer this way. Get all of Ground Zeroes for half price.
No clue.
My guess would be that GZ will be included in PP, but people who purchased GZ ahead of time will be able to receive some in game bonus or exclusive content for their support. (My second guess would be that GZ's story isn't really all that necessary to play through for PP, and will just be summarized in the full game for people that didn't play it)
I'm just hoping I'll be able to redeem it. I plan on getting GZ on current gen, and PP in next gen.
Lightning Lord
Banned
Let's be realistic; after Phantom Pain is out, Konami will later on do another release that includes both GZ and PP bundled at full price.
And i wanted to get the limited edition of ground zeroes.
As die hard a fan as i am, im not that die hard.
It REALLY is a demo, just something to whet the appetite.
Will want the limited edition for Phantom Pain though.
And that mention of lots of content *_____* oh god yes
I lovedddd peace walker, so its for sure that im gonna love TPP
As die hard a fan as i am, im not that die hard.
It REALLY is a demo, just something to whet the appetite.
Will want the limited edition for Phantom Pain though.
And that mention of lots of content *_____* oh god yes
I lovedddd peace walker, so its for sure that im gonna love TPP
Just me or does everybody know what is gonna happen already based on the trailers?
I mean it's kinda weird to try and sell this when the "twist" is out there already isn't it?
Big Boss is tricked into rescuing Chico while the XOF forces pretend to be government inspectors and invade/destroy Mother Base
I mean it's kinda weird to try and sell this when the "twist" is out there already isn't it?
Yeah that's obviously going to be the case if it's not already included up front. The question everyone wants to know is will it be included up front? Konami says the reason for breaking it up is to give fans something to hold them over. So once pp is released it would have served its purpose and there'd be no reason not to include it.
phosphor112
Banned
Peacewalker in my next gen MGS game?
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
MickeyKnox
Member
You're crazy. People bought ZoE - a 4hr game that I beat three times back to back because I was convinced I'd missed something - at full price for the mgs2 demo. People will buy this, especially since it's going to have a nice box and physical release.
Many won't though... Those are the people most curious as to whether pp will include gz as all the other mgs games have included their prologue.
Do you know the length of the game? NO. Where does it say that a prologue or a tutorial means that it is a short game? Anyone who is calling this Tanker 2.0 is fucking stupid. By tutorial Kojima means that GZ serves as the game that gets us ready for the main game. Tutorial as in getting used to the idea that a gigantic open world is coming. Tutorial does not mean short.
MGSV, the real MGSV, taking so long could be alleviated by a moment like this. It would even topple Raiden in terms of videogame suprises.
It's dense, so it's spoiler tagged for those who might want to read it.
It might not be tear worthy, but I think that could be a strong finale.
It's dense, so it's spoiler tagged for those who might want to read it.
As Big Boss, over the course of The Phantom Pain, you build Outer Haven. You recruit its soldiers, purchase and steal its weapons and vehicles. It expands, like Motherbase does. Then you reach the finale of the game and the credits roll ...
Then a mid-credits scene appears. 'Ten years later.' appears in the middle of your screen. Then you're back in the game, outside of your base. But you're a young Solid Snake (voiced by Hayter). Perhaps like the flashback section of MGS4, the game cuts to black when you enter the base, then the rest of the credits play. But I'm just imagining how seeing what you, as Big Boss, have created (with your choices represented i.e. building 'Wing X' of Outer Haven) from that perspective could neatly be a powerful end to the Metal Gear Solid series.
Then a mid-credits scene appears. 'Ten years later.' appears in the middle of your screen. Then you're back in the game, outside of your base. But you're a young Solid Snake (voiced by Hayter). Perhaps like the flashback section of MGS4, the game cuts to black when you enter the base, then the rest of the credits play. But I'm just imagining how seeing what you, as Big Boss, have created (with your choices represented i.e. building 'Wing X' of Outer Haven) from that perspective could neatly be a powerful end to the Metal Gear Solid series.
It might not be tear worthy, but I think that could be a strong finale.
Zombie James
Banned
Ugh, Peace Walker didn't click with me at all.
Common sense says that.
Jawmuncher
Member
I remember that was my whole reason for getting ZoE back in the day.
It's incredible how delusional you really are.
Love Deterrence
Member
Every time Kojima uses the word "tutorial," people leave out the part right before it. "Serves as." Maybe he didn't say it in this interview, but he has stated this repeatedly. The misinformation surrounding this game is
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mind-blowing
Mexen
Member
Yeah but it still gives us a wrong impression due to what we have come to know as a Tutorial. How long is your standard tutorial in the genre in question? minutes! I doubt anyone would go through "a 4 hour tutorial". Its a bit misleading to put "serves as a tutorial" and "pay for it" in one context
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Deleted member 126221
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Wasn't Case Zero a couple of bucks?
Except Case Zero was only five bucks.
Of course it serves as a tutorial, it's a tutorial!
Kojima has also said repeatedly that GZ is only a fraction of the size of TPP. Unless this is to mean that TPP is actually hundreds of hours long, GZ is going to be a very short story experience.
This is what I want except the whole of MG and MG2 in Fox Engine to go with it.
Graphics Horse
Member
Huh?
No idea. It'll contain story missions and side ops but we don't know how many of how long they take to finish.
I don't think anyone does, but if i had to guess, it's probably the same as the full tanker stage in MGS 2, but since it's open world-ish, they'll probably tack on a bunch of arbitrary, non-story missions you can do to extend full playthrough. So like 2 hours story, 6 hours of random missions on alternate playthroughs. (eg, kill these 2 targets and escape. Gather intel from this guy and kill who he tells you then escape. rescue so and so without getting caught and escape.)
Sickboy007
Member
Nah. It's just a cash-grab.
bengraven
Member
KungFucius
King Snowflake
If I buy GZ digitally on the PS4 do I get a discount on the full game? Is GZ included in the full game? Does all of MGSV cost 90 fucking bucks?
If I buy GZ digitally on the PS4 do I get a discount on the full game?
-There's been no mention of such an offer and it's unlikely to happen.
Is GZ included in the full game?
-Unknown but again unlikely, possibly only in a collectors edition or an updated release sometime after the full game will it be included.
Does all of MGSV cost 90 fucking bucks?
-Technically yes, but Konami are banking on GZ being good enough or content rich enough to be considered a game in it's own right. You'll likely be able to understand The Phantom Pain without playing GZ though.
-There's been no mention of such an offer and it's unlikely to happen.
Is GZ included in the full game?
-Unknown but again unlikely, possibly only in a collectors edition or an updated release sometime after the full game will it be included.
Does all of MGSV cost 90 fucking bucks?
-Technically yes, but Konami are banking on GZ being good enough or content rich enough to be considered a game in it's own right. You'll likely be able to understand The Phantom Pain without playing GZ though.
BrokenIcarus
Member
So PS4 retail version after all? Hell yes!
In japan
I'm a huge MGS nerd and I fully agree with you. Fuck this! Voting with my wallet here, but it almost makes me want to skip out on MGSV entirely (I probably won't), but its that feeling that you "missed" something. It leaves a little chink in my armor of love for the series, maybe enough to not even partake
FlashbladeGAF
Member
not the first time
and lets not pretend we haven't purchased games just to play their demos before
Im not saying its the equivalent or it's ok.
Just saying
i think their funding was secured by MGS 1, 2, 3, and 4 + spin-offs and royalties. Maybe it'll seem like a cash grab still, I'll have to wait to hear how beefy it is, gameplay wise. I'd be happy to drop $30 on like 10 hours of MGS gameplay at launch, but maybe I'll wait for a lower price if it's shorter than that.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
They could definitely be cool but VR missions were whole new mini-levels (with some being quite big actually) and had more focused design. I wouldn't mind it if they fenced off parts of the map for side missions as opposed to Far Cry 3's outpost style sidequests where you can approach from any direction.
Hopefully they will be Peace Walker or Substance style instead of western shooter sidequest style.