JetBlackPanda
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It's safer for them to not say shit since they can fix it before release and it's a non issue.
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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch
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It's safer for them to not say shit since they can fix it before release and it's a non issue.
TheLegendary
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Straight from proelite.
Sounds like both consoles are going to have issues at launch.
It sounds like Microsoft and Sony have swapped places here.
PS3 was designed by hardware engineers with a lot of feedback coming from outside gaming division (entertainment), while you can tell the 360 was designed by gamers / software developers. The decisions made at launch hampered what the PS3 was able to do once they started re-designing the approach. PS4 seems to be designed by gamers / software developers first and foremost.
Ken Kutaragi doomed the PS3 with his decisions. Who is the Kutaragi at Microsoft that's responsible for this? Also hopefully the decisions made today won't limit what they can do in the future once they evolve the OS / network services (hopefully to be more gamer focused).
Note - I have not been keeping up with the news as much, so forgive my ignorance if you don't think this is the case.
PS3 was designed by hardware engineers with a lot of feedback coming from outside gaming division (entertainment), while you can tell the 360 was designed by gamers / software developers. The decisions made at launch hampered what the PS3 was able to do once they started re-designing the approach. PS4 seems to be designed by gamers / software developers first and foremost.
Ken Kutaragi doomed the PS3 with his decisions. Who is the Kutaragi at Microsoft that's responsible for this? Also hopefully the decisions made today won't limit what they can do in the future once they evolve the OS / network services (hopefully to be more gamer focused).
Note - I have not been keeping up with the news as much, so forgive my ignorance if you don't think this is the case.
SirMossyBloke
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So it's 100% wrong then?
I've been thinking that over. I feel like there may be something wrong about that from Mort's source. If they are using a Skype base, then there must be something else going on with it. I have no idea though.
The more you know! I always thought it was from an Aussie sketch show.
Well given Sonys history I really have doubts they deliver on the backend network part. Of course I guess we wont know till that actually launches. A few devs doing network testing probably would tell us enough.
Maybe he saw the writing-on-the-wall and figured it was the perfect time to leave rather than get scapegoated for this mess.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
SONY problem ladies and gentlemen...
Mo' money more problems.
There isn't really 3 OSes. Not really.
Think of it as 2 separate instances of an PS designed to run separate code in protected environments and the 3rd is a communications layer that talks between them.
People are overblowing the complexity of it... not even close to as complex as say windows.
I dont know. Dopey's a fellow canuck and I'm concerned about him, thats it.
Kydd BlaZe
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The problem was that they spent so much time and so many resources to all of the DRM shit they attempted to establish. Now that they have scrapped those policies I'd wager that they are rewriting a bunch of code in order to play catch up. Things probably aren't going as smooth as they would've hoped, and their OS just isn't anywhere near ready for launch, as a result.
Just a hunch...I suppose.
Still thinking about buying an Xbox One at launch though. Can't wait for Dead Rising and Ryse.
Bluekaveli
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Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
No.
Maybe all of you need to go back to the OP and read the blog post a 3rd time to get past your Sony blinders. This type of mentality of ganging up on a poster replying to someone seemingly purposefully spreading misinformation is ridiculous and should not be allowed.
This issues are with online UI features, not online gameplay stuff, from the info in the OP.
purnoman3000
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I only read the first few pages so maybe this has been asked. Could these problems have to do with the number of OS' running on the Xbone? Didn't MS say the system has 3 different OS to handle different tasks? Maybe they aren't integrating well.
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eddfromtheriver
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Nice. Thanks for elaborating.
Mobius and pet octopus
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And if they fixed these problems before launch, this thread will be seen as FUD but no one will ever know the truth till the book "Behind the Xbox 1" 3 years later lol
I think thats one thing to consider, these devices are a lot more complicated.
This seems very probable. Others are pointing to this as part of the issue here.
Suits? From the sounds of it, a lot of the decisions for the Xbox One were from higher up that were probably looking at margins.
Neuromancer
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Just read this:
Used games, Twitter complaints, and Sony: Why the Xbox One backlash doesnt matter
It's pretty amazing.
Zombie James
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Maybe they should have added a fourth operating system that didn't fuck with things they already got right.
HawksWinStanley
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Probably the last thing MS needs with COD and BF coming out first.
If PSN is even as good as Live was this gen then Sony is going to be locking things up early.
If PSN is even as good as Live was this gen then Sony is going to be locking things up early.
friskykillface
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what a mess :/
the days keep getting shorter and shorter, this thing is out in just a month and all this is happening
major nelson hasn't commented since that welcome major nelson thread I think. I'd feel safer about my pre order if we get answers
the days keep getting shorter and shorter, this thing is out in just a month and all this is happening
major nelson hasn't commented since that welcome major nelson thread I think. I'd feel safer about my pre order if we get answers
Fixed1979
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..and worst of all Leafs fan.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
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As somebody with both consoles on preorder I'm actually taking this as good news for the Xbox One. Software / network issues can be patched. With Microsoft's history with hardware failures I was much more concerned about having a repeat of the rrod nightmare. Even a hint of that this time around would be enough for me to cancel my preorder. We're increasingly seeing major products released with incomplete/buggy software. Apple just sold 15 odd million iPhone 5s with uncalibrated accelerometers. These things happen and are acceptable given the complexity and level of functionality we want from our devices. Whether by launch or by next year these things will be patched out. If you want something that works perfectly as promised in the advertising you do not buy a launch day product be it a car, a phone or a games console.
He really screwed the Kooch on that one.
The thread is going faster than I can read it... Yay. I'm going to enjoy being a part of history in a couple of weeks. I think I'm claiming this one the official start of the snowball. Well, it started with Driveclub, actually.
In all honesty it is a good idea. Just run the 360 OS to handle live. It just worked very well for 8 years.
SirMossyBloke
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I like the leafs
granted I'm an Englishman in Canada just getting into it. But still.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I say that in a broad sense though.
I'm not aware of little issues which devs get a hold of the platform holders and iron out. I'm talking about issues that affect me and you and how devs make these games. How easy or harder certain things before because of HW complexity or lack of SW maturity.
In short, I'm not in the offices listening to everything but I'm sure there has been some issues with PS4 but it seems to be standard fare for now.
Damn, I didn't realise he wrote that article. Annoyed me when reading it at the time. So the guy is just generally full of shit then. Hilarious reading it over given everything that has transpired since.
I lol'd.
Starphoenix
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Isn't he gone now?
Hey now, Dopey may be a jaded xbox fan, but as a fellow leafs fan in regards to anything Leaf related I will defend him to the end!
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kittens
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Kevin Dent reminds me of Albert Rosenfield from Twin Peaks, but less funny. An arrogant prick, basically.
TheRealTalker
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Even though some megatons might be dropped in here I got to pack it in.... Can't afford to waste another night and be dreadfully tired while doing Math stuff tomorrow.... See yah GAF stay strong
GillianSeed79
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Christ. I leave GAF for a few hours to keep watching Breaking Bad (I'm only on season 3) and there's another atomic explosion. You know, I was going to clean my apartment the other day, but spent the better part of 12 hours on GAF.
Also, I apologize. Kuchera (sic?) must lurk or something, because I gave him the easiest softball talking point in the other thread about unnamed sources.
It's crazy that GAF is really the only source I trust at this point. Jason seems like a good guy, so maybe he'll have our backs.
It doesn't just seem like there's smoke here. It's seems like a giant ass forest fire.
Also, I apologize. Kuchera (sic?) must lurk or something, because I gave him the easiest softball talking point in the other thread about unnamed sources.
It's crazy that GAF is really the only source I trust at this point. Jason seems like a good guy, so maybe he'll have our backs.
It doesn't just seem like there's smoke here. It's seems like a giant ass forest fire.
onlyindreams
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The people who designed Xbox Live aren't there anymore. I dunno why people expect MS to still be king at that.
cripterion
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thepotatoman
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No, he's been saying both systems are being extremely rushed and coming in blazing hot for the last 3 months. Only thing he added was that Xbox One hasn't been available for demo, which is already pretty public information. He's just saying that a broken OS at this point in time isn't anything you wouldn't have been able to deduce without a leak.
The only thing that's not confirmed by Jeff's statement is whether it will take weeks or months to fix, which Mort says months, but that could easily be wrong because insider or not, time frame predictions can be a matter of opinion.
AgentP
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False equilavancy FTW.
um, this is pretty big news dude.....because Xbox Live is considered the king of sub services atm.....right Xbox One is looking to have a service similar to PS3 at launch
how is that not huge news?
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