I did too! Pretty damn amazing for a man in his position. Huge props @Yosh if you happen upon this thread.
What did shu say?
I did too! Pretty damn amazing for a man in his position. Huge props @Yosh if you happen upon this thread.
I think they're all being printed at this point.
Knack has been spotted on shelves.
All is good.
So if you have the current scoop with whats going on with Sony and this launch, tell us what this PS4 review event taking place 3 days before the console launches in a controlled environment is all about? I'm not accusing anybody of anything and I suspect Microsoft might do the same thing but whats the reasoning behind that?Games have nothing to do with the console being ready. That's a developer problem. Killzone and Knack are fine. Killzone is even being printed now.
See. Any publicity is publicity.
Not if I have the confidence of a fucking Bengal tiger. Also, I'm not a marketing student cause going to school for that garbage degree is for suckers. I carve my own path in this physical realm and declare my expertise like a fucking Bengal tiger.
^^
http://m.joystiq.com/2013/10/28/new-xbox-one-dashboard-video/
Kind of funny that got put out the same day this news hit.
Everyone always praises J Allard as the champion for gaming at MS but let's not forget, he sat right there and let MS execs put out faulty hardware for the sake of beating Sony to market. Same sins different decade.
Well this was always MS' endgame. So to see the media focus come to bear isn't too surprising. There is a reason Allard left. Stopping a corporation that is intent on overtaking Google and Apple is no easy feat. We all love Allard's passion and believe there may have been some improvement, but this mess started with Balmer. The Xbox One is the company's answer to every competitor. Sadly, it competes poorly with all of them.
So only one console is being rushed? Heh, okay.How can I create equivalence when the equivalence is already (blatantly) there?
Anyway, I expected OS issues at launch on both systems before they were even revealed/announced. That's simply tech these days.
All I did was try to understand why this is more "controversial" than the typical issues at launch. That's all.
Knack has been spotted on shelves.
All is good.
Exactly --"if true". Panicing at this point would be a waste of time if everything gets sorted out at launch.
The main reason I'm getting an Xbox One is due to it having games I'm interested in. Those should work at launch right? Or is there a new rumor that I missed? (haha)
Not if I have the confidence of a fucking Bengal tiger. Also, I'm not a marketing student cause going to school for that garbage degree is for suckers. I carve my own path in this physical realm and declare my expertise like a fucking Bengal tiger.
I'm starting to think that on the Sony side of things ( holding review units back till 2 days before ) has a lot to do with the system not being ready for review until the last moment.
This day one software patch will still be in development, it's obvious they installed a bare bones OS install on manufacturing knowing full well they could work on all the features right up until launch, in which case now they will be ironing out bugs with 1.50.
I'd imagine they don't really want to have a controlled review environment, but they kind of have to because of work still going on right up till launch.. I don't think they have anything to worry about, we'll just see the usual glitches day 1.
This stuff about Microsoft sounds scary. But I fail to see any concrete evidence of this? Devs have been using dev kits of months, surely they have been testing OS level features such as network connectivity and voice comms, sounds a bit fishy to me.
My guess is that this problem will be worked out sooner than later. They really have no choice but to spend every possible second attempting to resolve this. MS has the manpower to get it done, so it'll likely happen. If this isn't fixed, or at least substantially resolved, oh boy!
Oh boy=! good things
Define "games working"
If XBL connectivity and party dropout issues are party of your games experience, then perhaps you would consider games "not working"
I really hope MS either fixes this for launch or soon after because, jokes aside, the Xbox is a major, major part of the gaming landscape regardless if you are a fan or not (I am a PS fanboy who is fortunate enough to have the means to buy all three next gen consoles and plan to do so)
If Xbone crashes and burns this will have an overall damaging effect on our hobby even if you hate Xbox.......even the ha8rz should want this to be resolved as quickly as possible
Huh, news to me too.didn't know people couldn't check the OS while playing the demo, MS need to do something about this news and do it fast if what Phil Spencer say is true then prove that this news is wrong (if it's wrong).
If you're referring to the NY celebration, then that's before launch. They're going to have to go there if they want to get early access, or wait for it to launch, go buy a PS4 and then review it. Who knows, maybe they give the journalists in attendance a free PS4 as a bribe? Sweeten them up a little. Know what I mean? Huh? Eh?So if you have the current scoop with whats going on with Sony and this launch, tell us what this PS4 review event taking place 3 days before the console launches in a controlled environment is all about? I'm not accusing anybody of anything and I suspect Microsoft might do the same thing but whats the reasoning behind that?
If this is the problem instead of rrod, I'll be happy...
he also generally only leaks stuff that is pretty darn obvious
See. Any publicity is publicity.
Not if I have the confidence of a fucking Bengal tiger. Also, I'm not a marketing student cause going to school for that garbage degree is for suckers. I carve my own path in this physical realm and declare my expertise like a fucking Bengal tiger.
Kotaku afaikJust out of curiosity who is famousmortimer?
I have a marketing degree and you're wrong.See. Any publicity is publicity.
Not if I have the confidence of a fucking Bengal tiger. Also, I'm not a marketing student cause going to school for that garbage degree is for suckers. I carve my own path in this physical realm and declare my expertise like a fucking Bengal tiger.
I have a marketing degree and you're wrong.
didn't know people couldn't check the OS while playing the demo, MS need to do something about this news and do it fast if what Phil Spencer say is true then prove that this news is wrong (if it's wrong).
If Microsoft can survive and come out on damn near the top if not in top despite having essentially a 100% failure rate on their consoles for well over a year, they will be fine with something as minor as this really is.Sorry, Xbox One isn't Miley Cyrus. It isn't an idea or a celebrity where any publicity is good publicity. Its a tangible piece of consumer electronics equipment that is expected to have certain levels of functionality and performance.
It'll still sell out. People will still buy it, but the disappointment and frustration factor at launch will be high. And this will translate to negative word of mouth and thats not what you want right out of the gate when you have a competing box that is cheaper and better performing. Its kind of the exact opposite effect of what happened with the 360. 360 was built on word of mouth. Over the years, the number 1 answer on this forum, and many others, as to why you bought an Xbox 360, was ...."because I want to play with all of my friends and thats what they are playing".
Microsoft will get the shit sorted out, but it will take a while. Hopefully for them, they can mitigate or hide the damage that will be caused by several months of gamer frustration.
Lol. I know. But marketing actually is my major.I have a GAF degree and he's joking.
Dude, its a 300 hundred MEGAbyte patch. That's barely enough for your average web application, let alone an entire OS. Cut this line of bullshit, its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes to account for changes to the PSN between pre-release and launch. Zero day patches are the norm for large software/hardware launches, a broken UI weeks before launch is not.
As a somewhat expert in health/medicine I believe it's time to take them meds, homie. Bengal tigers don't flinch. They roam with majesty and grace because of their superiority. #GETATMEtheaudacity.gif
I don't think we'll ever see a console again without day 1 update. The PlayStation 3 even got one. US and Japan had 1.10 and Europe had 1.60 for firmware updates on launch day. The Xbox 360 also had one IIRC.
Games have nothing to do with the console being ready. That's a developer problem. Killzone and Knack are fine. Killzone is even being printed now.
That was helpful; didn't know about the PS4 issues but they sound like typical little bugs and hands-playing-too-close-to-chest stuff. The XBO stuff sounds like straight up clusterfuckery.For those just joining us and others (like me) waking up after the long night of butt-storms, SwiftDeath has a great summary here.
Enjoy.
As a somewhat expert in health/medicine I believe it's time to take them meds, homie. Bengal tigers don't flinch. They roam with majesty and grace because of their superiority.
Your turn is over if you tried to check out the hub? Wow.
Must be a strange feeling for Cerny. His game team is probably popping up the sake bottles and celebrating, yet there is still one more big thing for him, to which he can't celebrate yet till launch.
The entire PS3 firmware weights 200MB package, how would you say the 300MB "Patch" is small for PS4 main feature ?
If you're referring to the NY celebration, then that's before launch. They're going to have to go there if they want to get early access, or wait for it to launch, go buy a PS4 and then review it. Who knows, maybe they give the journalists in attendance a free PS4 as a bribe? Sweeten them up a little. Know what I mean? Huh? Eh?
Man, I like Yoshida's idea of showing the PS4 UI at the beginning of their Gamescom conference even more:
Video
Being optimistic is what makes me look younger than my actual age. It's a pretty good trait.
I hope the current issues with both consoles get sorted out by launch (whatever they may be).
There isn't a network connected device with embedded OS that doesn't do a day 1 check for OS/firmware updates, and more than a few actually do have day 1 updates to download and install. That's the world consoles live in now.And that day 1 update is a fair old beast for something going well.
Dude, its a 300 hundred MEGAbyte patch. That's barely enough for your average web application, let alone an entire OS. Cut this line of bullshit, its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes to account for changes to the PSN between pre-release and launch. Zero day patches are the norm for large software/hardware launches, a broken UI weeks before launch is not.
My God! Hahaha
Thanks man.
Shu's PS4 had to be in suspend mode, if you notice when he starts playing Shadow Fall he never chose a class. Unless it automatically chooses a class for you.
Your turn is over if you tried to check out the hub? Wow.
Yup and Phil went into silent mode after that response .. getting ridiculous. I'm not opposed to getting an XBONE down the line. Competition is good. They need to get their shit together.
Just out of curiosity who is famousmortimer?
Shu's PS4 had to be in suspend mode, if you notice when he starts playing Shadow Fall he never chose a class. Unless it automatically chooses a class for you.
I'm observing this kind of behavior in the message board. I always ask myself why they aren't banned, yet? I wonder if NeoGAF tolerate this much of negativity and misinformation? Why and for whom?Major and Penello tried to answer questions only to be thrown shit at. The best choice of action is just to let GAF be GAF (nobody will buy Kinect, Wii U is the greatest thing ever, nobody will buy Kinect again) and answer on launch day. The system will work flawless as advertised and slowly people will realize they've been played hard by the marketing shills they call insiders. GAF is so easy to manipulate, of course marketing on both sides uses that. Isn't it strangely convenient that for every good MS news there is a new bomb hanging over X1? I have never experienced such a campaign to desperately get people to not buy a console. I mean I'm getting an X1 but why should I care what you get?
And if you look closely you see the same BS in every one of the so called insiders posts. Things are incredibad for X1 ... But they might just work it out in time. Resolution is 720p but they are working on it. ESRAM has issues bzt they might make it work. There are yield issues but that could change come launch. The OS and Xbox Live are having huge issues but they have some time left. It's their insurance. To keep their account alive. It's moronic. You either have info and stand behind it with your credibility or you don't. The way it currently works here some can spread the most ridiculous BS and get away with it.
"I heard PS4 will be delayed to 2014 because the system runs too hot with release code and constantly shuts down. Sony is hard at work finding a solution, but they might still make it. Doesn't look good though."
See how that works? If you see the infamous but, be sceptical.