Spukc
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FAST RMX / Shovel Knight for Switch launch, no VC at release
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GinoFelino
Member
It seems like people willing to push the 'rushed' narrative will push that narrative regardless.
There's no way the browser/Netflix thing is due to lack of time; I sincerely doubt Nintendo would have launched with them even if they launched in November.
Stairouais
Member
Everything is going according to plan: SMB 1 VC at E3 hype.
RampagingSoul
Member
Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove will have all of the campaigns that have been released along with Specter of Torment and the future King Knight campaign. You can choose to buy Specter of Torment separately when Switch launches.
That also seems like a fair estimate. Now the fun truly begins if the whole Wii/Wii U/3DS catalogue will be available out from the door, or if it's going to be another drip feed.
GuitarGuruu
Member
Oh nice totally will be grabbing RMX.
Then it's no longer usable as a portable device. I want to be able to play some VC games in bed, the way I use most my other portable devices.
I think so. They mentioned that treasure trove would be including it, so I'd imagine you wouldn't need an amiibo to unlock it.
Not anymore.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
No VC on launch is absolutely pathetic. This is looking more and more like a rushed release.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Wonder what the price of Shovel Knight will be.
sir_bumble_bee
Member
Replace Fast RMX with Shovel Knight and there's my lineup
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
Dude there is no narrative, it's reality. There's no way to believe this system isn't being rushed out the door unfinished. There's no evidence against that at all.
casey_contra
Member
Awesome! Thanks for clarifying ^.^ That's what I figured but it's always good to confirm. Day 1 for me.
The Elite
BOSS
$24.99 for Treasure Trove.
GiantBreadbug
Member
Browser is legitimately a fuckin ludicrous thing not to have at launch.
Streaming apps would be nice, but it's not crazy to see them miss launch to me.
VC is nice but I REALLY cannot see how it missing launch is outrage-worthy. Wow I can't play Super Mario Bros. 2 on my Switch at launch how outrageous. Except it's available on 100000000 other devices and it's not strange at all to see them not prioritize it at launch.
So yeah, a lot of the "soft launch" shit is nonsense. But the thing should probably have a browser.
RampagingSoul
Member
Originally, Shovel Knight was only co-op through the amiibo, making co-op exclusive to Wii U for a while. Yacht Club already stated that co-op is coming to other platforms alongside the Specter of Torment campaign.
If it launches with every game previously available on Wii U and 3DS and free transfers for previous owners I'll give them a pass, but I fully expect to see yet another shameless drip feed of games with the initial lineup consisting of hotly demanded titles like Urban Champion and Golf, all while being charged a fee to play games I already own.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
So on the record.
I can play the main game from start with 2 players ?
Okami Haundo
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230858950&postcount=1287
Excellent point by cbrotherson in the Embargo thread that seems to suggest Nintendo will want VC to act as a game release. Joy Con lack a proper D-pad, but more importantly they can't replicate key aspects of the Wii and Gamecube controllers. I'm willing to bet on retail releases akin to Wii Party where you get a new controller along with a code to download X amount of classic games.
Excellent point by cbrotherson in the Embargo thread that seems to suggest Nintendo will want VC to act as a game release. Joy Con lack a proper D-pad, but more importantly they can't replicate key aspects of the Wii and Gamecube controllers. I'm willing to bet on retail releases akin to Wii Party where you get a new controller along with a code to download X amount of classic games.
Why would they? Lots of people play in handheld mode only, especially as those old games don't look particularly good on those big TVs..
SomedayTheFire
Member
you know that's not bad at all.
Octavianus
Banned
Nope
TheMagician
Member
No, it's an eshop release.
Stop confusing the Virtual Console for the eshop. It's completely moronic.
FOR THE CONFUSED
Virtual Console is retro games only and nothing to do with other downloadable titles.
Jesus.
Nintendo Wii U analog sticks were precise enough to play 2D games. I hope it will be the case again on Switch.
Down the line HD Rumble could also give an haptic feedback telling when we reach up, left down and right. That'd be awesome.
Treasure Trove is $30 (which is the new price on all platforms after Specter Knight launches), Specter of Torment is $10 I believe
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
What if instead of treating the whole service as a game release, they treat every individual VC game as a big release? They can release one N64 game during each slow month and really plug those holes. Sounds like a great idea to me.
The annoying thing is that the time I'm most likely to use the VC is during the droughts in the first couple months of the system's life. That's when I want it, really.
Feels like there's no reason some classic NES and SNES games couldn't have been ready at least. Announcement of NES and SNES games is no big deal, so they can hardly be holding it back. Nintendo seems to think that these games serve a purpose in lieu of actual new game releases. I never see it like that, I can't imagine others do.
I'd rather them get it right than have it on day 1, though. NES emulation on the Wii U was an actual disgrace, and I feel like I got robbed with the money I paid for some of those games versus the quality of the experience.
Feels like there's no reason some classic NES and SNES games couldn't have been ready at least. Announcement of NES and SNES games is no big deal, so they can hardly be holding it back. Nintendo seems to think that these games serve a purpose in lieu of actual new game releases. I never see it like that, I can't imagine others do.
I'd rather them get it right than have it on day 1, though. NES emulation on the Wii U was an actual disgrace, and I feel like I got robbed with the money I paid for some of those games versus the quality of the experience.
Naked Snake
Member
This is the real news. I'm happy.
LinkSlayer64
Member
I honestly wish I enjoyed Fast Racing Neo more, but I just couldn't get into it, good for all of you though, enjoy!
Btw, what does the RMX stand for?
Btw, what does the RMX stand for?
Geometry Wars.
GinoFelino
Member
Virtual Console is N64, DS and Wii games too, nowadays. That's a huge catalogue of modern classics that would've been great at launch.
'Soft launch' is a pretty reasonable way to look at it. 'Rushed' is the nonsense one.
From what we've heard, the hardware is well thought-out and far from rushed. The system launches with a hugely anticipated title.
Evidence is subjective both for and against this narrative. The 'objective reality' thing is just opinion.
The Elite
BOSS
Hexic.
Dark Cloud
Member
Remix
I would prefer a physical cartridge, but the idea itself is interesting.
Inferno313
Banned
I've said it before, but no VC at launch should've been expected. The Wii is the only platform that ever had it at launch, it's become a feature that typically doesn't come until a few months after launch.
Really disappointed with the lack of Virtual Console, as it suggests that Nintendo may possibly be just as slow with their releases with the new console if they can't even get something ready for launch.
And I know "haha typical Nintendo, why are we surprised?", but still. I am surprised. If a company isn't able to move forwards then it is effectively moving backwards.
I'll reserve judgement, but if we get to later in the year, and we've been seeing the same typical trickle of VC games...I'll probably just pick up a Switch second hand.
And I know "haha typical Nintendo, why are we surprised?", but still. I am surprised. If a company isn't able to move forwards then it is effectively moving backwards.
I'll reserve judgement, but if we get to later in the year, and we've been seeing the same typical trickle of VC games...I'll probably just pick up a Switch second hand.
Horrible idea. Did you not own a Wii U? This is basically exactly what they did and it was pathetic not to mention frustrating when they would release inferior to both the original system and any random emulator.
Don't know if someone asked YachtClubGames but I just asked them on twitter about a physical release on Switch and they say not yet, a possiblity down the road. https://twitter.com/YachtClubGames/status/834761108078555137
GiantBreadbug
Member
Well considering how Nintendo's handling of VC is the butt of a million jokes, I don't see why anyone would expect anything other than NES, SNES, and maybe N64 to be ready even if Switch was launching with VC. This is the service most people usually seem content to deride as either unnecessary or unusable.
They have NEVER competently managed this service, so I'm happy to wait and see if they plan on changing that instead of seeing the same 10-15 (S)NES and N64 games they always parade around during the beginning of a VC launch.
I'm fine with waiting a bit for the chance to buy Super Mario 64 for $10 again.
TheFuzz
Member
So do you think Sony moved backwards when the PS4 launched without the ability to play PS1 classics?