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Feds seize Kickasstorrents domain, owner
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Killer Queen
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Spaceghost
Wow he got ratted out by apple.
Heavy_D206
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I've always wondered how much money sites like TPB and KAT bring in.
I mean they are essentially giving everything away for free, but still making millions of dollars in the process.
I would love to see a movie about the behind the scenes stuff in the Torrenting world, or even the story behind Silk Road would be a good movie.
I mean they are essentially giving everything away for free, but still making millions of dollars in the process.
I would love to see a movie about the behind the scenes stuff in the Torrenting world, or even the story behind Silk Road would be a good movie.
kylecoley182
Banned
i miss limewire
andythinkpad
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Isn't me or if Julian Assange was running a torrent site, his ass would have been nailed by the Feds already?
The Silver
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hail hydra
sans_pants
avec_pénis
alex winter has directed a few docs on these topics
Sweet summer child
Bu-bu-bu customer privacy, secure data?!?!?!?!?
EdibleExplosives
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Heavy_D206
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Thank you, I'll look those up.
of course
Vigilant Walrus
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I want them to make Steam for Movies/TV.
A globalized storefront, at unbeatable prices were consumers becomes addicted to finishing collections and tracking. Where you can gift, and where people all over the world has access to the content at the same time.
On such a storefront where you could easily make the things add up that torrents would not give you; the dvd/br extras, the sub-community pages, tracking of how much time you have spent watching a show, streaming your reaction from the storefront while watching things, making reviews, information about your account, the store recommending shows and movies for you based on your purchases and viewing habits.
I feel there is a desire to do it. I feel that if there was a store like that, when Joe Shmoe hears from his friend that Marco Polo Season 2 is amazing, that he will buy the season pass 2 because its on sale if you preorder the season before it comes out, and that might lead him to buy Season 1 when it goes on a summer sale down the line even though he has already watched it a long time ago and don't really need it, but fuck it.
Many people are OCD freaks. They just have to opt into a system that is too good for people to say no to. When I watch my steam information I find all the data surrounding of how much time I've spent, how much I've completed, how long it has taken me, how far I am into it, the value of my account, the habits and my taste, and so on, very interesting. It's not very interesting by itself, but it becomes interesting if you suddenly compare your stats across everything.
And if Marco Polo's store page then has a community hub where fans are talking / shitting on the show, there is another element to wanting to use it as well.
I'd have to be a good price of course. If I buy Hateful Eight for 9 dollars. Chances are I'll pick up the other Tarantino films as well. And just like that, because my OCD I feel sort of nice that I got the entire Tarantino Library digitally.
And as everyone gets into new directors, shows and genres all the time, it stands to reason in my mind that through our consumer culture we still value to own things. The price just has to be right, and Hollywood just need to realize it.
A globalized storefront, at unbeatable prices were consumers becomes addicted to finishing collections and tracking. Where you can gift, and where people all over the world has access to the content at the same time.
On such a storefront where you could easily make the things add up that torrents would not give you; the dvd/br extras, the sub-community pages, tracking of how much time you have spent watching a show, streaming your reaction from the storefront while watching things, making reviews, information about your account, the store recommending shows and movies for you based on your purchases and viewing habits.
I feel there is a desire to do it. I feel that if there was a store like that, when Joe Shmoe hears from his friend that Marco Polo Season 2 is amazing, that he will buy the season pass 2 because its on sale if you preorder the season before it comes out, and that might lead him to buy Season 1 when it goes on a summer sale down the line even though he has already watched it a long time ago and don't really need it, but fuck it.
Many people are OCD freaks. They just have to opt into a system that is too good for people to say no to. When I watch my steam information I find all the data surrounding of how much time I've spent, how much I've completed, how long it has taken me, how far I am into it, the value of my account, the habits and my taste, and so on, very interesting. It's not very interesting by itself, but it becomes interesting if you suddenly compare your stats across everything.
And if Marco Polo's store page then has a community hub where fans are talking / shitting on the show, there is another element to wanting to use it as well.
I'd have to be a good price of course. If I buy Hateful Eight for 9 dollars. Chances are I'll pick up the other Tarantino films as well. And just like that, because my OCD I feel sort of nice that I got the entire Tarantino Library digitally.
And as everyone gets into new directors, shows and genres all the time, it stands to reason in my mind that through our consumer culture we still value to own things. The price just has to be right, and Hollywood just need to realize it.
This is pretty big news if true.
Well if the feds had a warrant, then I don't see the big deal. I assume they did.
bitbydeath
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I'm hoping Vue delivers when finally released here.
What was all that grandstanding about not cooperating with the FBI for then?
CassidyIzABeast
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So a legal purchase led to one of the biggest torrent sites being shut down.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
yeah why would a company that refuses to systematically disable their encryption exposing 250,000,000 peoples personal photos, documents, and lives cooperate when it comes to turning over the unencrypted first and last names associated with an IP address? since these are clearly the same thing, they must be hypocrites or something!
Lonewolf_92
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Honestly, if they can keep KAT and TPB offline and/or on the run, then law enforcement has pretty much won.
Honestly, if they can keep KaZaa offline and/or on the run, then law enforcement has pretty much won.
Honestly, if they can keep Napster offline and/or on the run, then law enforcement has pretty much won.
I could go on...
To slow piracy you have to create a system that is more convenient to use than what the pirates use. See steam for pc. PC piracy still obviously exists but I would guess it's nowhere near as high as it would be if Steam wasn't created.
andythinkpad
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Should have downloaded the bootleg from his site instead.
Couldn't have done it without Facebook either.
KAT only got big once the top site died before it. I can't remember all the sites before it, other than TPB, but there have been multiple torrent sites that have gone.
Software pirating will never fully go away. It's hobby for some people to rip and crack software, others are collectors, those people will always have their avenues, everyone else are just future customers. For the masses that use torrent sites, the only way that will slow down (never gonna go away) if people's quality of life improve and they're able to buy their software. Instead of wasting money on law enforcement and lawyers they should throw their money at charities or donate to politicians who will bring the most kids out of poverty.
The hilarity is Usenet still exists and is older than all of them. Oh shit...probably not supposed to talk about Usenet. It must be a secret surely.
Seems like a rookie mistake. You're running one of the biggest private torrent site on the internet, and has neglected to use VPN for your everyday internet activities.
firehawk12
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Usenet servers get DMCA takedowns all the time now actually.
Devilgunman
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Lol let me tell you something...
LiveFromKyoto
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The absolute crash of music sales shows this argument is bunk.
BibiMaghoo
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Do they not realise this only slows traffic for a day or two? It is counter productive because more clones will pop up, making the sites actually easier to find, instead of harder. They need a new method.
That is because of streaming, not piracy.
That is because of streaming, not piracy.
KarneeKarnay
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Really the problem lies with the distribution of content. It's been proven that people will pay for content more times that pirating it if it is made available to them easily. Netflix and other services have proven people are very willing to pay to see what they want. The problem comes with region locking and ridiculous pay walls.
There is a reason GoT is the most pirated show in history.
There is a reason GoT is the most pirated show in history.
GankzyMcfly
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Your comparison is unfair IMO. The people your referring to seem to be pirating out of necessity rather then not wanting to pay for the content. You even mention that they ultimately pay for it on home releases as well. Its not their fault the market hasn't caught up to piracy. If it was as easy to pay for and collect the episodes on a weekly basis, as it is to pirate them, and the quality was as good as the home releases, then the people your referring to would likely go that route rather then pirate them. The reason they likely pirate them is because they missed the episode for whatever reason or don't have cable and know that they will ultimately pay for it when its available so they do not consider their action piracy. This isn't comparable to individuals would literally pirate everything just "because". I had friends in highscool/university that would pirate everything and anything for two reason, because school internet was free and why not (their logic not mine)... I had a friend who had a 2tb hard drive (that was huge back in 2010 to me anyways...he ended up giving it to me for my birthday and i still have it) filled with movies and tv shows just to have, it was basically a hobby to just download whatever new had just come out. He would have multiple version of everything as well because he was literally just downloading everything. For example, a shaky screen cam of a movie would leak to the internet, he'd download it, a slightly better shaky screen cam of the same movie comes out a week later he downloads it, the dvd dled, the blueray dled and the same could be said about pretty much everything he was downloading which made it pretty clear that he was just downloading stuff for the sake of it. That and the fact that he wasn't really as interested in actually watching the movies or tv shows as he was interested in downloading them.
isnt coursea free anyway???
SomedayTheFire
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pls dont spread rumors
Yup. Alt mirrorrs were up long before this day, and new ones will arise all the time.
Mr. Giggles
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Lmao, this got me
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