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FEEL THE BERN: Beware Dark Souls 3 PC/Steam users
- Thread starter wheeplash
- Start date
I remember dark souls 2 originally used VAC but people who were VAC banned in other games were unable to play so they just removed it entirely lol.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
They should blame From anyway, this was a known problem for days and they did nothing.
Has this ever been true? VAC bans in TF2 don't stop people from playing CSGO for example.
CadetMahoney
Member
Someone said just revert a backup save and it's all good or something, but it seems they are wrong:
softban is the incorrect nomenclature at this point. I feel sorry for all those people he destroyed.
I don't understand the people who are commending him and make comments like, 'reddit is butthurt'. As if they get personal joy out of seeing redditors discuss and call out this guy. Well you know they wouldn't be doing it if this guy didn't actually hack !
Well that's a different situation though.
That situation only exists because one can use their originally hacked characters from PS3. If Blizzard didn't let people carry over their PS3 characters it wouldn't have happened because you can't actually hack the PS4 version and any hacks had to be done on PS3.
Well that's a different situation though.
That situation only exists because one can use their originally hacked characters from PS3. If Blizzard didn't let people carry over their PS3 characters it wouldn't have happened because you can't actually hack the PS4 version and any hacks had to be done on PS3.
When he hits them he probably modifies their stats > uploads to server > server bans them.
At least thats one way to do it. idk how this is even possible. FROMs AC is so horrible its fucked insane.
Someone should contact anyone at FROM and have this person banned, permanently and go over the footage and unban people.
Also report the youtube. Get it removed.
Hes only doing it for attention.
Professor Lich
Member
I'm in the same boat somewhat. It is awful that someone is getting other players perma-banned, especially with the fact that he is hacking.
It's just kind of funny and ironic how he's abusing FROM's own anti-cheat method to do it.
It kinda is on them to actually provide a working solution. Two wrongs don't make a right, but their implementation is clearly flawed.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This is my biggest turnoff with Dark Souls. I don't want some asshole ruining my game. Can you just play offline?
That would suck for everyone getting softbanned here to get VAC banned but then at least Valve would have a reason to step in and help alleviate the issue.
Not in general but FROM screwed up somehow and promised to fix it but they ended up just abandoning it.
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
If this Malcolm Reynolds guy is trying to make a statement this way, it's slowly working...
Nope. You don't ever lose your account on Steam. No matter what you do, you always have access to your games.
Where are the "lots of cheaters" exactly? You're seeing one single dude purposefully screwing people and streaming it to the world, but how do you exactly get "lots of cheaters" from this?
Yeah, it seems there are two messages: the first basically telling you "delete your save because it's suspicious", but when this happens, you are already doomed, because you will be banned in the next maintenance, no matter what. This is what I read, anyway, on Steam there's a 110+ pages thread about people getting banned for no reason.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
He's just an asshole, you can see screenshots on his profile about hacking in DS1 and breaking people gear.
Is just that DS3 shitty anti-cheat systems is making hackers even a bigger problem that they were in past games.
test_account
XP-39C²
Only for cheating online?
I see, so the worse thing that can happen to him in this situation is a ban from Dark Souls 3 online?
AcceptableGhost
Member
To be honest having no anti cheat at all is better than the faulty system they have currently. In these games perhaps you would run into a handful of cheaters over the course of your entire Dark Souls 3 game time. It kinda sucks but it is far from a big deal.
FROM/Namco would have to manually ban his account from their Dark Souls 3 servers. Otherwise nothing will happen to him.
FROM/Namco would have to manually ban his account from their Dark Souls 3 servers. Otherwise nothing will happen to him.
Professor Lich
Member
You can. I know some who do. I did for a bit in Dark Souls 2 because I didn't want to be bothered by other players while tracking down NPC phantoms.
SJRB
Gold Member
Absolutely, but you'll miss out on the messaging system which is one of the best concepts in the game.
Backfoggen
Banned
They should. This anti-cheat implementation is total garb. Bans people for soul count that doesn't add up but this dude can swing his messed up dagger and port around the place as much as he wants to.
TheSpoiler
Member
I remember Dark Souls 1. There was a video of this dude floating around where he'd attach curse to his weapons, so any time you got hit, you got cursed. Never saw it in my game, but I always thought that shit stupid.
This got nothing to do with VAC, but this can be considered purposefully harassing steam community members, getting them banned and ruining their game experience and items they've purchased.
As such they are very much within reason to disable the entire account, and yes, they have done it in the past im sure.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5406-WFZC-5519
test_account
XP-39C²
Pity, thats not much of a punishment, but at least it would keep him from continuing doing this.
Kaleinc
Banned
And they would be right. If their anti cheat system allows running around with hacked items, teleporting, falsely banning victims then it's useless crap.
Yeah, I know I'm probably overreacting. I really don't care if I'm being invaded by hackers or not but I just don't want to risk getting erroneously softbanned, especially because I'll be playing on my modest laptop and most likely use dxtory to limit the framerate, which some claimed got them softbanned on DS2. And with all the ruckus going on with DS3's server protection, I'd rather play (or more appropriately, not play) it safe until they hopefully fine tune the anti-cheat system.
You can but offline Dark Souls is not really Dark Souls anymore. It's really a game meant to be played online hence why I never was much interested in it.
You are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say this is all you see in PC games, nor did I say every PC game suffers from it and every player has to go through this..did I? All I said was hacks exists on PC and don't on current gen consoles due to such and such reasoning, where exactly is the exaggeration here ? As for The Division, that game uses a client side trust system which means hacks exists on PC which don't on consoles, we are not debating whether it's a bigger problem than ingame exploits or not.
Straw man argument here.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
That's not true I pretty much play all of them as single player games although other people are interested in the PVP elements I mostly just want the messages on the floor and such and I ignore all summons and such.
Yes. You wouldn't get messages either though I think. People can't invade you while you're not "embered" in DS3 though. DS2 had that one area where you'd always get invaded even when hollow, which was annoying.
This is entirely From's fault.
This dude streaming his assholery might actually force From to fix it quicker.
CadetMahoney
Member
long love the king.
Bumbletron
Member
There are two things that better come of this.
1. Total reset of all softbans. The victims of this probably go beyond what we've seen here, and others have probably done this as well. We will definitely see more of it after today.
2. Fix your damn system FROM. Or take it out. I don't care. I'd rather see "Real God" flying all over the place in my game (Which I did the other night) than get banned from a fuckhead like this.
1. Total reset of all softbans. The victims of this probably go beyond what we've seen here, and others have probably done this as well. We will definitely see more of it after today.
2. Fix your damn system FROM. Or take it out. I don't care. I'd rather see "Real God" flying all over the place in my game (Which I did the other night) than get banned from a fuckhead like this.
Stream started more than 4 hours ago.
d00d3n
Member
Thanks. I did my part.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Sigh, this is exactly the kind of thing I was worried about when getting DS3 for PC. I love playing online, so going offline is not an option. Was an extra 30 fps worth it? Not sure. Just hope it all gets fixed soon.
AcceptableGhost
Member
It is the weekend. Sadly I doubt anything will happen till Monday probably.
HeisenbergLannister
Member
Gotta love the losers who try to make their life meaningful by doing stuff like this.
Such a rebel, dude...
Such a rebel, dude...
SoulUnison
Banned
Overreactionary, maybe, but how is this shit not somehow actionable?
I mean, the way I see it, as long as FROM doesn't fix this and patch the game, we're watching this guy, LIVE, stealing $60 from innocent random strangers, over and over again.
They paid 60 dollars for a product, and he's destroying its base functionality, making sure they can never again enjoy one of the major - perhaps THE major - feature of the game.
I'd honestly like to see people like this face some sort of minor to moderate criminal justice.
I mean, the way I see it, as long as FROM doesn't fix this and patch the game, we're watching this guy, LIVE, stealing $60 from innocent random strangers, over and over again.
They paid 60 dollars for a product, and he's destroying its base functionality, making sure they can never again enjoy one of the major - perhaps THE major - feature of the game.
I'd honestly like to see people like this face some sort of minor to moderate criminal justice.
Honey Bunny
Member
The blame for this ultimately lands on From
No it's not. I've never played DS offline but the only difference with online would be the lack of messages from other players and random invasions. But even if online was required how do these two things make you less interested in the game? I don't get that.
They only do that if fraud is committed, they never disable an account due to a cheating infraction.
DrunkShogun
Member
What an absolute prick. I'm on ps4 and haven't had a chance to get back so will offline when I get back. Don't understand the need, hack your game by all means but don't ruin other peoples game.