Well, there's a white thirty-something space-marine protagonist trope too. Video games need more diversity in general.
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Female characters at E3 this year versus last year
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Well, there's a white thirty-something space-marine protagonist trope too. Video games need more diversity in general.
Damerman
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actually Bioware have said that the character we see in the trailer isn't the main character(our playable character)
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Hate to be "that guy" but all of this progress means nothing if the characters aren't written well.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
Spoony Bob
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I was surprised how little buzz the female character models in Black Ops 3 is generating. Was this previously known or something? I'm pretty far out of the loop on CoD news.
Damerman
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Honestly, I'm trying to convice myself that Horizon girl is super mixed considering this is 1000 years after the Apocalypse... she doesn't necessarily have all white phenotype.
Poodlestrike
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Don't forget the female spartans
I think my favorite part of these designs is how... normal they look. They just look like people. It's pretty great.
I was thinking the same time, shit went to hell and everyone got down with the swirl. And you will see mixture of people and cultures. the main character's people seemed to be Native American influenced, but they showed a another faction that was a bit more industrial.
This as well.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I believe Gears 4 also had a female companion. I was also going to make this thread but it's good to see many people noticed. I was extremely just excited to see all the female characters, all lead roles, BA breaking rules. Even better, was more... Ugh... Just overwhelming emotion to see two black women on stage. That was huge for me. It could have been a marketing trick, idc... The fact that black women was actually there and included just meant a lot so yeah
Damerman
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are you talking about UBI presentation with Angela Bassett and Ubi Host?
NoblesseOblige
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I was happy to see more gender diversity in what I've seen from E3. Hope to see more persons of color as leads next time though.
Hahaha yeah, I thought like okay calm down people, isn't this supposed to be a thing that exists already. It's not that revolutionary to have a female character in fallout. Though I did feel disappointed that they chose to show the male character for the demo and only showed the female character for like a second.
Im pretty sure Rod Said her name was Kait during an interview with Geoff while sitting on the couch but I cant find a link to the interview. Sorry. Other than that I don't think we know anything.
Don't worry when they need a drug dealer, we will be there!
NoblesseOblige
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I feel the reaction was mostly due to the introduction of player character voice acting. Voice acting isn't cheap, and hasn't been done in a Fallout before (for the player character), so there was worry you would be locked into a predefined protagonist.
She totally looks straight Irish/Scottish.
N7Commander95
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I think its utterly hilarious that in response to Gamergate and Reddit MRA's horrendous actions that the Games industry had a great number of women everywhere in E3. Microsoft conference and Ubisofts specifically.
Hm, yes good point!
I do feel hyped about the voice acting part, I hope it'll be good for the female character too.ElBoxyBrown
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Emily from Dishonored 2 is the only one I feel excited for to be honest but that's because I'm just a fan of the series. The rest just seem, I don't know, like they won't be special or anything. But hey so were the male characters shown so I guess we made it.
Morrigan Stark
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The hell is this? Now Asians aren't "POC enough" or something?
Thanks, Anita!
I disagree. Progress is progress.
They'd have to do something abhorrently bad. If they're just not well written they fit to all the thousands of badly written male characters.
Damerman
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this is a very exciting aspect and I'm hopping they go all out with the lore and writing for this universe. I heard they hired a writer from the witcher 3 team, so the expectations are high.
EDIT: the writer is actually from New Vegas... so expectations are still high.
neogaffer1
Banned
In a nutshell, nobody cares about CoD anymore and more exciting and insane things happened yesterday than the yearly CoD reveal.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
We'll see. Would be a shame if this turns out to be a phase then everything reverts back to status quo.
Devs have shown more often than not that they cannot deliver. Hopefully these games prove otherwise.
Wiktor
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Right..because majority o male game characters are such wonderfully written complex characters..lmao.
It was known previously and Call of duty had female characters since Cod ghost. Though this time you can also play as one in the co-op campaign
BlackBuzzard
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Nintendo just unleashed all the waifus so time to update that list.
Vlaphor
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Finally, something for me!
grosvenor_92
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Its definitely nice to see devs doing this so hopefully it's just the beginning
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Never said they were, not sure where this tone is coming from.
Callibretto
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Writer from Fallout New Vegas. Quest designer from Witcher team
The point is that progress means that female characters are equal to male characters. The quality of writing doesn't really factor into that because most male characters are badly written as well
Aloy surprises me the most because she's... kinda ugly actually. Also has a stocky body type that actually fits to the physically demanding stuff she has to do.
Red hair + bow + powerful female protagonist reminds me of Brave
AC female character is their safe bet. Apparently you only play as her in some missions (and maybe even optionally) so she's not actually the main character and her impact on the plot remains to be seen.
You and anyone who thinks the character is ugly are nuts.
Valkerionseven
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I definitely took notice of the amount of female characters, nice and refreshing. A lot of variety in their archetypes too which makes it even better. More diversity in general between what has been shown so far as well.
Not a lot by as a whole standards but the tide is showing its change finally.
Not a lot by as a whole standards but the tide is showing its change finally.
Lol I got some bad news
SEGAvangelist
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New Fable Legends trailer features all female heroes and a hero villain. Pretty cool, IMO.
RespectThySole
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Gears 4 co-protagonist also
User 73706
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I think this has to do in part with the advances in mocap we've seen, as well; while Vale didn't have a prior description in terms of her appearance, Tanaka looks fairly different compard to her incarnation in the comics. She's East Asian / African, and while she looks predominantly black in Escalation she looks a lot more mixed in-game. I think this has to do in part with both Vale and Tanaka looking a lot like their mocap actors, though. Probably easier to go with designs that have features closer to those of the women that are doing the animations to avoid any potential jankiness in keyframing, etc.
This is also part of why I think Halo's cast is interesting. You do have some characters from Earth that have pretty pedestrian nationalities (the best example is Sergeant Johnson, who's black, American and from Chicago) but there are much more ambiguously mixed characters elsewhere; the Halo Reach cast featured a mix of characters with hints of black, Slavic and Hungarian features (the aforementioned dude of color having been born on Chief's homeworld and not Earth), you can always find Hispanic and Aussie-sounding Marines in the campaign missions, etc.
Wiktor
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So why do only female characters can count only when they're well written?
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
I disagree, quality of writing absolutely plays a role into raising standards. If one area of writing improves it opens the doors for another to improve, and so on.
Morrigan Stark
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I guess I can see what they mean if, by "badly written" they mean those characters just end up being tired cliché sexist tropes. That would impede the progress. But, I don't think that's likely to be the case for the ladies posted in the OP.
Okay, outside of the white bit, which is valid, and an issue in just about all media at this point, and one which hopefully will be addressed going forward. What sort of body type and age bracket are you expecting from action heroes?