Heart_Attack
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There is no reason for AAA third party games to be exclusive to one console unless Sony pays part of the development costs.
Incredibly dumb takes because of it.
As if the game could run on Switch or it would sell anything meaningful on Xbox.
PC version is coming and nothing prevents it after a 3 months exclusive.
But the issue is that this game is a direct sequel.
It's catering to the same group of fans and being a sequel they're not attracting new players.
Square Enix partially knew it hence the digital Twin package where the first part is given for free.
It is still selling in line with FFXVI, probably a bit more worldwide.
In the past we had data points about how FF sequels were doing, like FFX-2, FFXIII-2 and Lightning returns and the drops were unfortunately obvious.
Thers an important factor regarding FF7 Rebirth physical vs digital. The digital version has the Twin Pack that includes the 1st game for free.
Were you not around when FFXVI was released? There's a certain group of people who openly want every PS exclusive have to fail to feed their hatred for SonyHad no idea people were this salty about the console exclusivity.
Please stop spreading lies, the game is definitely not free
The thing with Rise of the Tomb Raider is that TR was also associated with PS and they got cut out of it, hence the lower than expected sales. Probably SE asked a lot from MS.Nobody does this type of exclusivity anymore. Rise of the Tomb Raider comes to mind where Xbox paid to get it removed from other systems. That was long time ago.
That doesn't change the fact that the game is not free.It was if you pre-ordered rebirth.
PSA: pre-order Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, get Remake Intergrade for free
The must-play first chapter of Square Enix’s remastered RPG is free when you pre-order the new entrywww.polygon.com
That doesn't change the fact that the game is not free.
That was a preorder bonus and is not available anymore, everybody now looking to buy the game will be paying full price.
The thing with Rise of the Tomb Raider is that TR was also associated with PS and they got cut out of it, hence the lower than expected sales. Probably SE asked a lot from MS.
The thing with FF now is that the demographics are mainly on PS consoles, so even if Xbox got cut out of FF, it's not a major blow to them if they're compensated enough.
Plus really, the demographics of FF are on PS, PC, and Switch, not Xbox.
Sometimes I feel like people are way overestimating Xbox's popularity wherein reality, it's not popular.
most of ppl who wanted that game pre-ordered it UwUUUyou reap what you sow dear Square Enix
Didnt knew the price raised after the pre-order period, thats when i checked the prices and it was indeed free. So now its still 20€ cheaper than buying both games separately.
Please stop spreading lies, the game is definitely not free
Agreed. It's not a reflection of the game's quality.Sure, but to take these numbers and go "clearly this wouldn't happen if they went turn based/ didn't make so many bad games" Or some other gameplay critique is just dumb.
This is an issue with releasing PS5 games in Japan not an issue with the state of the brand or its gameplay..
The thing with Rise of the Tomb Raider is that TR was also associated with PS and they got cut out of it, hence the lower than expected sales. Probably SE asked a lot from MS.
The thing with FF now is that the demographics are mainly on PS consoles, so even if Xbox got cut out of FF, it's not a major blow to them if they're compensated enough.
Plus really, the demographics of FF are on PS, PC, and Switch, not Xbox.
Sometimes I feel like people are way overestimating Xbox's popularity wherein reality, it's not popular.
Could FF7:Rebirth run on the Switch 2?
I've never seen this kind of bitching and concern about sales figures when the game is a Switch or Xbox exclusive.
Tomb Raider was associated with PlayStation because Sony signed a deal to make it exclusive. So it was very silly for people to be salty that an exclusive deal was now keeping it off PlayStation. It’s silly to get salty about any deal. If you aren’t a fan of the deal, don’t buy the game or buy it down the line when the deal ends.
Tomb Raider was also the last time Xbox got any huge third party deal that I can think of, and Nintendo typically funds the games they snag as exclusives, so idk why people are trying to play victim like PlayStation gets persecuted for doing the same thing the others do.
Remake runs very decently on a Steamdeck and PS4. FFXVI was originally going to be cross-gen.
Of course a down port of Rebirth would work just fine on a Switch 2.
Xbox has nothing to do with it. Release it on multiple platforms. Whatever you think is viable.The thing with Rise of the Tomb Raider is that TR was also associated with PS and they got cut out of it, hence the lower than expected sales. Probably SE asked a lot from MS.
The thing with FF now is that the demographics are mainly on PS consoles, so even if Xbox got cut out of FF, it's not a major blow to them if they're compensated enough.
Plus really, the demographics of FF are on PS, PC, and Switch, not Xbox.
Sometimes I feel like people are way overestimating Xbox's popularity wherein reality, it's not popular.
What? LolYou're not arguing in good faith.
Don't you think timenhas already proven that FF's nostalgia power isn't as strong as one might think? RE Remakes have more staying power.There's nothing preventing remakes from selling exceedingly well. And I suspect FF7R will, with time.
Dude, come on. At first and second glance, it looks like standard medieval fantasy. Nice change in visual identity for FF, but clearly not mass appeal.And "generic looking games?" Firs,t FF16 isn't generic looking.
FF clearly doesn't have that privilege. That's not my decision or yours, that's just how it is.Second, there's plenty of generic looking games that have sold exceptionally well.
People are complaining about the performance running on PS5 though...
I think there is a bit of hypocrisy when it comes to the Switch and what the Switch 2 will possibly be.
I don't see anyone out here arguing in favor of games going to PS4/PS4 Pro, yet we'll argue in favor of a diminished port to Switch 2?
Only remake could’ve “hurt” rebirth considering it’s a direct sequel…Final Fantasy 16 could have hurt Rebirts sales. I'm still struggling to get through 16, and after that I need a longer break until I want to play another FF.
People are arguing about the performance mode on PS5. Isn’t the Quality mode quite solid?
There’s no real hypocrisy here. The game has to run 1080p 30fps on a Switch 2 with some visual cutbacks. I’ll be surprised if they don’t have faster I/O than the PS4 and it’ll definitely have a more powerful CPU and more memory bandwidth.
What is for sure is that when the Switch 2 arrives, it’ll immediately become the primary focus for Japanese developers.
Remake is much older though, and we just had a FF game with 16 a year ago, it might be 2 games too close to each other.Only remake could’ve “hurt” rebirth considering it’s a direct sequel…
I'm still waiting for Lost Odyssey.Remake runs very decently on a Steamdeck and PS4. FFXVI was originally going to be cross-gen.
Of course a down port of Rebirth would work just fine on a Switch 2.
Yeah, let’s not get carried away here
What is for sure is that when the Switch 2 arrives, it’ll immediately become the primary focus for Japanese developers.
lol it sold a shit load on digital.. they just make it soo fucking hard to even get physical day one i had to call 2 walmarts and gamestop didnt open until 12 that day lol didn't the digital version even release 2 hours early on the 28th? the only place i buy digital is steam but why do they fucking make it soo hard to even get a disc... hell i got it on amazon also and it was 2 days late... :/I agree these figures don't look good and could be a bad sign.
But it seems extremely important to bear in mind
The only game we know it lost against in Japan, is the biggest launch in Japan to date. Ofcourse we need to see holds but these are extremely good numbers..
FF7R would not run on the switch.
Comparisons with FFXVI aren’t looking good neither.I find it funny that people expect end of cycle PS4 sales numbers for current PS5 exclusives.
Depend, its depend on the developer themselves. Remember witcher 3, skyrim, doom? They could if they want it. They just not want it or they dont have any luxury to port it or to develop it in switch platform, or they dont have budget or time for porting to switch.
Hahaha that's quite funny.Didnt knew the price raised after the pre-order period, thats when i checked the prices and it was indeed free. So now its still 20€ cheaper than buying both games separately.
Edited my original post, so no more lies detected
If that was your point, i can understand your reasoning.The point was that there is the possibility that there may have been an outsized number of digital pre-orders for the game.
It's a vocal minority. So much so that their very own platform doesn't see them as a sufficient and sustainable audience moving forward.
You need to have played 7 Remake to play Rebirth or you wouldn't know what the fuck is going on. You don't need to do that with 16.Comparisons with FFXVI aren’t looking good neither.
I think it would be hard to pull off on the switch, but also it looks less and less like Square's partnership w/ PS is good for them. so maybe they should be making less graphically intensive games that run on all platforms. I'm just saying in terms of the game they actually made, it's hard for me to believe they'd be able to run it on the switch anyways.Depend, its depend on the developer themselves. Remember witcher 3, skyrim, doom? They could if they want it. They just not want it or they dont have any luxury to port it or to develop it in switch platform, or they dont have budget or time for porting to switch.
Is not about hate. Rebirth is supposed to be the big game of 2024 for the PS5, and i pretty sure that Square or Sony (Or the fans of the franchise) didn’t expect lower sales than FFXVI.Some people really hate this game, huh?
You need to have played 7 Remake to play Rebirth or you wouldn't know what the fuck is going on. You don't need to do that with 16.
I just love that now FFXVI is considered a success.Some people really hate this game, huh?
Good lord. Put the tinfoil hat away. To think the “green rats” were the sensitive ones.Were you not around when FFXVI was released? There's a certain group of people who openly want every PS exclusive have to fail to feed their hatred for Sony
People like to spin numbers every which way they can. I remember seeing Italy sales numbers for some game. Like, who gives a fuck.When are people going to learn that UK physical sales mean absolutely nothing. The country is like 60 percent digital overall.
It's no 2 best selling playstation downloads for Feb and it was out for one day. With the positive word of mouth it's getting I'm pretty sure it will sell ok
Or good.I just love that now FFXVI is considered a success.
What a time to be alive.