Tainted
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General gameplay is 60fps....but during cutscenes, free kicks, replays it reverts to 30fps. This is what he is probably referring to
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FIFA 17 demo releases today
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General gameplay is 60fps....but during cutscenes, free kicks, replays it reverts to 30fps. This is what he is probably referring to
Have now played both PES and Fifa demos quite a few times.
Fifa is utterly gorgeous, and the animation is far superior - it looks like real football. But in terms of gameplay PES is leaps ahead of it now. Fifa is shockingly boring. I think the ludicrously slow speed of passing has a lot to do with that, as does the fact that the AI never seems to move out of position. Whereas in each match of PES you see totally different things, defences falling apart, opportunity for early crosses, you know... football. Each match of Fifa feels the exact same. Hell, each player feels the exact same.
PES is the victor this year, imo.
Fifa is utterly gorgeous, and the animation is far superior - it looks like real football. But in terms of gameplay PES is leaps ahead of it now. Fifa is shockingly boring. I think the ludicrously slow speed of passing has a lot to do with that, as does the fact that the AI never seems to move out of position. Whereas in each match of PES you see totally different things, defences falling apart, opportunity for early crosses, you know... football. Each match of Fifa feels the exact same. Hell, each player feels the exact same.
PES is the victor this year, imo.
A lot of the issues Ive found with the FIFA demo (like most FIFA demos) are purely down to how annoying the CPU is as an opponent, really hard to get an idea how either FIFA/PES play without a human opponent which at least can be fixed for PES via shareplay easily.
I cant fathom what crimes youd have to commit to be forced to play FIFA against the CPU as its remarkable how poor it is compared to PES...
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I cant fathom what crimes youd have to commit to be forced to play FIFA against the CPU as its remarkable how poor it is compared to PES...
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MMaRsu
Banned
Pretty much and it always takes me out of the experience
Poetic.Injustice
Member
The graphics are really lackluster. Frostbite hardly made a difference.
Tainted
Member
Maybe the joke is on us and it has always been running on some iteration of Frostbite
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
I didn't notice a lot of difference running on frostbite we still see Playstation 2 level hairs e fish eyes
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
Is the PC version the same as the consoles or PC gamers got screwed again?
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Tainted
Member
The console and PC versions have been like for like since FIFA 12 (FIFA 14 being the exception)
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
Thank you!
Kurt Angle
Member
this plays like 16 with prettier animations. wtf did frostbite even do
PES it is
PES it is
Tainted
Member
I'll be getting it....simply because I skipped '16 and I'm sick of manually updating my squads in '15
ambar_hitman
Member
Passing is slower and sluggish. Hate it.
Graphics are fucking same as last year.
Hazard looks nothing like what was shown in trailers etc. His head and hair are like Fabregas. Wtf.
Costa is same model as last year, which was already outdated.
Not impressed at all.
Pes doesn't have the licenses but I am more inclined to go with them. The demo was 4x more fun. And players looked way better.
Graphics are fucking same as last year.
Hazard looks nothing like what was shown in trailers etc. His head and hair are like Fabregas. Wtf.
Costa is same model as last year, which was already outdated.
Not impressed at all.
Pes doesn't have the licenses but I am more inclined to go with them. The demo was 4x more fun. And players looked way better.
Char Aznable
Member
Played a few matches, overall I like it more that fifa 16 a game that felt to defensive and limited my attacking options.
-Game feels faster and more ofensive oriented
-Frostbite is a nice adition, but it didn't "wow" me
-holding the ball feels a bit op
- sliding tackles feel great.
Also regarding corner kicks, free kicks and penaltys
-Game feels faster and more ofensive oriented
-Frostbite is a nice adition, but it didn't "wow" me
-holding the ball feels a bit op
- sliding tackles feel great.
Also regarding corner kicks, free kicks and penaltys
pixelation
Member
It looks the same to me... but then again the characters look so small when playing that the new engine is hard to appreciate unless they show a close up.
Tainted
Member
I don't think the Frostbite engine has anything to do with the characters being small and more to do with the default camera view in the demo.
buttery fistful
Member
the FIFA 17 demo is not coming up in my search of the store. am i doing something wrong?
It's a UK demo, didn't show up in the US store for me, but it's there on my UK user.
buttery fistful
Member
i was able to download it from the PS store online to the ps4, but never could find it through the ps4 store...oh well, time to play a few
The games are awful as single player games, the cpu is just shit.
I don't think I've played more than a handful of cpu matches in the last couple of years. Online is what's it's at
SilentRage47
Member
Played the demo, I'm really impressed. Graphic wise it may seem very similar to 16 but to me is way better, Frostbite makes the players fell like humans finally and there are a lots of new details in general. Animations are also improved and way more fluid, players movements feel smoother then ever before. Game speed seems a little too fast IMHO but we know that demo and final release are usually way different.
Oh, and Juventus it's recreated in a wonderful way. I'm a Juventus fan, day one for me.
Oh, and Juventus it's recreated in a wonderful way. I'm a Juventus fan, day one for me.
DerZuhälter
Member
I always found CPU matches to be quite tedious on Legendary. Need to check out how this feels against human opponents.
Passing is worse this year, not because of pass speed (you got the hard L2 Passes for that) but because of who the AI is picking out as intended target.
Furthermore I feel like FIFA 18 will bring back OP L1+triangle passes. They've been gimped 2 or 3 years in a row now.
Passing is worse this year, not because of pass speed (you got the hard L2 Passes for that) but because of who the AI is picking out as intended target.
Furthermore I feel like FIFA 18 will bring back OP L1+triangle passes. They've been gimped 2 or 3 years in a row now.
On PC the graphics improvements are pretty obvious. Better animations and much better looking close-ups. Using the Pro cam the game looks really nice. The ambience and sounds are also very good this year.
I like what they did with the sliding tackles.
Last year's threads were also poisoned by this "FIFA is shit and PES is king". I ended up buying PES on PC and besides the last century textures, it had no keepers and referees, so maybe take it down a notch?
The gameplay in the end really depends on the personal preference, more arcade like or more like real football.
I like what they did with the sliding tackles.
Last year's threads were also poisoned by this "FIFA is shit and PES is king". I ended up buying PES on PC and besides the last century textures, it had no keepers and referees, so maybe take it down a notch?
The gameplay in the end really depends on the personal preference, more arcade like or more like real football.
xVodevil
Member
It feels good, though the game is still too fast paced. But the speed difference between players, seems to properly stand out, that I really like!
Passing felt good for me, thanks to those neat, dynamic animations, also shooting from outside the box feels awesome, with some good opening, most of them shots were on target in an awesome way.
Graphics are ok, but sure it's the first and most important thing for this game.
I was skeptical, last year was a disaster, for I couldn't enjoy either PES or FIFA for the first time in years... It really sucked having to spend a year without my proper football dosage, barely a 20-30 hours compared to my usual 300-400. So yeah from waiting for the first sale, I went with pre-order.
Now the real problem is, I can't wait till 29th
Passing felt good for me, thanks to those neat, dynamic animations, also shooting from outside the box feels awesome, with some good opening, most of them shots were on target in an awesome way.
Graphics are ok, but sure it's the first and most important thing for this game.
I was skeptical, last year was a disaster, for I couldn't enjoy either PES or FIFA for the first time in years... It really sucked having to spend a year without my proper football dosage, barely a 20-30 hours compared to my usual 300-400. So yeah from waiting for the first sale, I went with pre-order.
Now the real problem is, I can't wait till 29th
Haven't played much of it, but tbh the differences are smaller than what I have expected with the change of engine.
It's a bit slower paced, but AI behaviours are similar, mechanics are very similar, graphics and animations are upgraded but not by as much as I hoped, will have to get used to the new corners.
Overall I've enjoyed it, but it's still pretty much same good old FIFA to me. Will probably buy this one, cause I haven't bought one since FIFA 14.
It's a bit slower paced, but AI behaviours are similar, mechanics are very similar, graphics and animations are upgraded but not by as much as I hoped, will have to get used to the new corners.
Overall I've enjoyed it, but it's still pretty much same good old FIFA to me. Will probably buy this one, cause I haven't bought one since FIFA 14.
fast_taker
Member
my thoughts exactly...
Yeah I'm in the same boat, bought Pro Evo the last 3 years so maybe it's time for some FIFA again.
Ivan
Member
I tried the demo...
Wow, they really are masters of recycling. Unbelievable.
Like they spent a whole year just porting fifa 16 to frostbite engine.
It does look better of course, presentation is top notch as always, but they are not working on actual game of football anymore at all...
I remember the last transition to next gen, fifa progress was really exciting.
It felt nextgen, I couldn't believe how advanced THE GAMEPLAY was compared to last gen.
This isn't fun anymore at all.
Did they loose some key people through the years?
I'm saying this as a fifa fan. Just imagine Konami not quiting making games and having EA's budget...
I feel like I played this game over and over for way too long.
Maybe this year was for change of engine, and next time they're gonna try something new, but I really doubt it.
Hugely disappointed.
But I'll probably play it like every time.
Wow, they really are masters of recycling. Unbelievable.
Like they spent a whole year just porting fifa 16 to frostbite engine.
It does look better of course, presentation is top notch as always, but they are not working on actual game of football anymore at all...
I remember the last transition to next gen, fifa progress was really exciting.
It felt nextgen, I couldn't believe how advanced THE GAMEPLAY was compared to last gen.
This isn't fun anymore at all.
Did they loose some key people through the years?
I'm saying this as a fifa fan. Just imagine Konami not quiting making games and having EA's budget...
I feel like I played this game over and over for way too long.
Maybe this year was for change of engine, and next time they're gonna try something new, but I really doubt it.
Hugely disappointed.
But I'll probably play it like every time.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
Anyone else getting a choppy look on Gsync despite 300fps? I've unlocked the framerate...
blacklotus
Member
I'd like to add:
Team mate movement (player runs) are a lot better, as promised in the trailers.
The Journey gameplay felt really good, which i hope translates into Pro Clubs.
Just wish i could play versus humans though. I play zero games on single player modes each year.
Cob32
Member
Preorder cancelled.
+ Animation is alot smoother (more animations)
+ More variaty in the way you pass the ball around
+ More ways of finishing
+ Team-mates bump into each other when going on full-attack. Teammates observe you or the ball and collide. Funny to see.
+ Ambience is superb!
- Feels pretty slow! Even on "fast"
+/- Graphic overhaul not quite noticeable from far away .. yet close-ups/replays look fantastic.
+ More variaty in the way you pass the ball around
+ More ways of finishing
+ Team-mates bump into each other when going on full-attack. Teammates observe you or the ball and collide. Funny to see.
+ Ambience is superb!
- Feels pretty slow! Even on "fast"
+/- Graphic overhaul not quite noticeable from far away .. yet close-ups/replays look fantastic.
When you play with the Pro camera (like in the Journey mode for example) it's much more noticeable.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
They do the same every year
SomedayTheFire
Member
Do people actually play with the pro camera? I hate it.
Will give this another go tonight. Didnt' love it last night, but that was mostly due to how sluggish passing felt. It felt a lot better in The Journey though, which was weird.
Will give this another go tonight. Didnt' love it last night, but that was mostly due to how sluggish passing felt. It felt a lot better in The Journey though, which was weird.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I started playing with that camera in the Pro Clubs. Then I used it in Be a Pro to get more used to it and now I actually very used to it and I love it. It feels more immersive for the player mode.