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[Rice-Eater]

What is the point of USFIV Oni getting EX Demon Slash changed from -10 to -8 on block? Honest question, that seems pointless to me.

My first thought was that it was meant to be safer against average players. Basically it goes like this. Oni does EX slash, you finally block correctly for the first time in 8 tries. You realize you finally blocked correctly and spend a few frames celebrating this fact. Then when you're finally ready to punish, Oni is now -2 and can mash out a DP or Ultra to punish your normal. Although in reality they meant to do it as juggle damage even though you blocked it because they just assumed it was going to hit.

 

[enzo_gt]

RayRay said Justin might be at NLBC tomorrow.

 

[kirblar]

Watching UCTV now - Keno losing 20 straight to El Fuerte is amazing.

James' suggestion to just bring back Super Cammy actually sounds really good.

 

[Nabs]

Amazing.

 

[irfaanator]

Yeah, but it's a plus though. Honestly, it's not that common to have people sit down and look at your match and give you feedback on it. At least, not the asshole kind you get on PSN and Xbox, lol. So it should provide some insight in general for Huw and for newer folks that don't want to get bopped in a tournament.

yea that's how i look at is well, got a very informative guy looking at your match and commentating on what could be done. If it's put to good use by huw, it'll be worth its weight in gold

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Eventhubs put up the Ghandi match.

Go fuck yourselves, Eventhubs.

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

All this has been is seriously demoralising and it had made me feel like my brain is too fucked up to ever hope at improving. Like everyone else in the scene has this shot at becoming at least decent but I will always be at the bottom.

So yeah, this is making me feel like shit. And now this shit gets to be served to more people, and I get to sit at home/at work feeling shit for who knows how long. Woop.

 

[UltraDavid]

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"can you rewind and play that again?" "sure"

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"hm let's take a look at that again" "ok" "can you zoom in here" "sure" "this is where he gets hit by empty jump cr lp xx lp dp" "i can see that"

it'll be about an hour show, so, hopefully we have time left to talk about the rest of the video after we're done replaying that over and over

 

[xCobalt]

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"can you rewind and play that again?" "sure"

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"hm let's take a look at that again" "ok" "can you zoom in here" "sure" "this is where he gets hit by empty jump cr lp xx lp dp" "i can see that"

it'll be about an hour show, so, hopefully we have time left to talk about the rest of the video after we're done replaying that over and over

When I saw that match I couldn't help but keep replaying the moment where Ghandi whiffed like 5 jabs point blank. He was probably timing his setup for cr lp into dp.

 

[irfaanator]

Eventhubs put up the Ghandi match.

Go fuck yourselves, Eventhubs.

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

wow that is pretty goddamn low

 

[enzo_gt]

Eventhubs put up the Ghandi match.

Go fuck yourselves, Eventhubs.

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

On the plus side, nobody will actually be able to load the page to read it.

 

[Chavelo]

wow that is pretty goddamn low

huh? what's wrong with making an article about it?

 

[kirblar]

huh? what's wrong with making an article about it?

Seth Killian RTed the match. This might go viral.

Embrace your failures. Otherwise they'll own you.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"can you rewind and play that again?" "sure"

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"hm let's take a look at that again" "ok" "can you zoom in here" "sure" "this is where he gets hit by empty jump cr lp xx lp dp" "i can see that"

it'll be about an hour show, so, hopefully we have time left to talk about the rest of the video after we're done replaying that over and over

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

 

[QisTopTier]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

Ask Marn and Floe how they deal with it
Maybe Justin!

I mean "BIONIC ARRRRRRRRRRRRM" and "Lets go JUSTIN!!!" Are pretty fucking bad LOL

Honestly though you are taking it too hard, let the internet infamy wash over you

 

[Anth0ny]

Eventhubs put up the Ghandi match.

Go fuck yourselves, Eventhubs.

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

All this has been is seriously demoralising and it had made me feel like my brain is too fucked up to ever hope at improving. Like everyone else in the scene has this shot at becoming at least decent but I will always be at the bottom.

So yeah, this is making me feel like shit. And now this shit gets to be served to more people, and I get to sit at home/at work feeling shit for who knows how long. Woop.

what happened here? why is this such a big deal?

is this the first time you guys have seen a scrub manage a fluke win over a clearly stronger player? It happens. Hard to out think a player that isn't thinking... if that makes any sense. lol.

i can't fucking load eventhubs lmao

 

[Busaiku]

what happened here? why is this such a big deal?

is this the first time you guys have seen a scrub manage a fluke win over a clearly stronger player? It happens. Hard to out think a player that isn't thinking... if that makes any sense. lol.

i can't fucking load eventhubs lmao

He's the player.
It's personal.

 

[kirblar]

what happened here? why is this such a big deal?

is this the first time you guys have seen a scrub manage a fluke win over a clearly stronger player? It happens. Hard to out think a player that isn't thinking.

It's blowing up because it's hilarious and relatable. We've all had it happen to us or been the idiot.

 

[nycfurby]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

trust me youll be fine and people will forget about the blowup after a few days, nec is coming. Just stick with it and improve if you really enjoy the game, everyone has embarassing moments at one point or another in tournament play, even top players.

 

[Chavelo]

oh shit i just realized huw is the rufus in the video. :lol

i don't think (rational/not stream monsters) people are poking fun at you, they're just making fun of the ryu player. we all have been there.

i much rather play against better players that woop me consistently than by scrubs that make me lose to myself.

 

[Anth0ny]

He's the player.
It's personal.

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

dude it's whatever that shit happens to everyone. sucks that it was on stream but just use that as inspiration to prove that you're better than everyone thinks.

people are going to forget, too. unless you're like a justin wong or chris g level player.

 

[toddhunter]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

Don't sweat it. It is just like when Smedwicks choked against Chris G. It is all good for a laugh, but at the end of the day you were the one who got out to a tournament and actually had a go. That is what really matters.

 

[UltraDavid]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

aw well ok, i don't want to actually make you feel bad! i was just joking around. we only want to use the video to teach people what to look for in learning how to bust scrubs, which is a skill in fighting games like any other. i myself was never very good at scrub busting, tbh! i got randomed out more than a few times. i know you're feeling embarrassed but i don't think there's reason to feel so bad about all this.

anyway if you don't want us to analyze it, no prob, we won't!

 

[MiniBossBattle]

aw well ok, i don't want to actually make you feel bad! i was just joking around. we only want to use the video to teach people what to look for in learning how to bust scrubs, which is a skill in fighting games like any other. i myself was never very good at scrub busting, tbh! i got randomed out more than a few times. i know you're feeling embarrassed but i don't think there's reason to feel so bad about all this.

anyway if you don't want us to analyze it, no prob, we won't!

This might be a good topic. Played enough to care about the game but still overwhelmed and upset about their performance.

FGW | We all lose, even Justin Wong.

 

[Deckard Cain]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

Stay a while and listen,

Grow up. It's a video game, it means nothing. Either get over it and keep playing or quit. Stop searching for sympathy on internet forums.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"can you rewind and play that again?" "sure"

(empty jump cr lp xx lp dp)
"hm let's take a look at that again" "ok" "can you zoom in here" "sure" "this is where he gets hit by empty jump cr lp xx lp dp" "i can see that"

it'll be about an hour show, so, hopefully we have time left to talk about the rest of the video after we're done replaying that over and over

 

[The Last Emperor]

Wtf, who forgot to close the door to deckards cave??

He's loose again

 

[Passive Assassin]

Wtf, who forgot to close the door to deckards cave??

He's loose again

he's a member now so he's free to do anything!

 

[DryEyeRelief]

I know this is supposed to be a joke about how I am taking this poorly. But at the moment I am too screwed up to really evaluate it properly.

This entire situation is the worst. The absolute worst.

I doubt people will even remember you're "that guy" if you're concerned. Just change your handle. Hell, you could probably use your current handle but not abbreviate it.

 

[Deckard Cain]

he's a member now so he's free to do anything!

Greetings,

Watch out, Im nasty, old, and a little bit ornery.

 

[Hitokage]

Eventhubs put up the Ghandi match.

Go fuck yourselves, Eventhubs.

On the Ultrachen thing, it'll be interesting to see but I don't know what more they can say than what has already been said.

All this has been is seriously demoralising and it had made me feel like my brain is too fucked up to ever hope at improving. Like everyone else in the scene has this shot at becoming at least decent but I will always be at the bottom.

So yeah, this is making me feel like shit. And now this shit gets to be served to more people, and I get to sit at home/at work feeling shit for who knows how long. Woop.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C0F_aVAnFU

Nobody watches this and even thinks of Hugo101 and OnlineTony, both of whom stuck around quite a while afterward. They remember Ironfist playing like a moron, and laugh.

Other high profile players have lost to some player being stupid too. It happens. Live and learn.

 

[Horseress]

Valle vs Rico Suave on KI

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Stop searching for sympathy on internet forums.

No, you know what, I can post that the coverage was making me feel bad. I have the right to post that if I feel so. But I should stop feeling sorry for my self. It's a tough situation for me.

I've actually remembered where my spine is now, though, so whatever.

Ultradavid, you're 100% free to review that match if you want. I was just shook that Eventhubs threw it up on their site this morning, and I got needlessly angry. Getting to work and being able to relax a bit has helped my mood considerably.

I'm going to man up and play loads of SF4 to get better. That's all I can do, that's all I'm going to do.

 

[Hitokage]

I'm going to man up and play loads of SF4 to get better. That's all I can do, that's all I'm going to do.

That's the spirit!

Make sure that next time you face such a player, you won't overthink it and pummel him into the ground.

 

[K.Sabot]

I switched to a top tier in BBCP and it feels so good.

Feels so good to be bad.

 

[Shito]

Kokonoe?

No, you know what, I can post that the coverage was making me feel bad. I have the right to post that if I feel so. But I should stop feeling sorry for my self. It's a tough situation for me.

Don't bother justifying yourself, especially not to Deckard Cain. Maybe if we all stop ignoring him, he'll go away. ^^
Playing in order to get better is indeed the only thing to do. At any level. And that's why I love fighting games so much. <3

 

[WorstGiefEVER]

Dawson,

Stop overthinking this 'situation', it's not a big deal, it really isn't. And the attention is 90% about Gandhi rather than you. Yes you will be recognised for the video on big streams, which you are almost never on as we don't have many big streams outside of Armshouse in Europe - that said, in the future this video will serve as a measure of how much you will have improved against unpredictable opponents and in general, so stop fretting and crack a smile.

David, I think the video would serve a great educational purpose and would love to see you guys do a number on it.

I remember a Wolfkrone interview where he was asked why he plays ranked so much, and he explained that it makes him ready for anything and stops him being randomed out in tournaments.

 

[T.O.P]

Valle vs Rico Suave on KI

thanks, needed something to watch, slow day at work

 

[Kimosabae]

I'm just as interested in seeing what happens with Ghandi after this. It's clearly gone viral. At large tournaments there's always a number of players like him. Does he recognize that there's more to the game than he originally thought, discipline himself, learn the game and continue competing? Or does he just take solace in this temporary e-fame?

No, you know what, I can post that the coverage was making me feel bad. I have the right to post that if I feel so. But I should stop feeling sorry for my self. It's a tough situation for me.

I've actually remembered where my spine is now, though, so whatever.

Ultradavid, you're 100% free to review that match if you want. I was just shook that Eventhubs threw it up on their site this morning, and I got needlessly angry. Getting to work and being able to relax a bit has helped my mood considerably.

I'm going to man up and play loads of SF4 to get better. That's all I can do, that's all I'm going to do.

Take solace in the fact that a lot of the initial responses to this video - on this forum, and in this thread in particular - are coming from people desperate to seek validation on the internet. They have no local scene to actually contribute to (or have one and don't support it) and don't actually go to tournaments. So the best they can do is point at someone failing on a stream and implicate with inane comments like "Hey, at least I'm better than that guy!" in hopes that someone reading their nonsense will actually care.

Back in the day, we had to a definitive term for people like that: we called them "forum scrubs". The term seems to have gone out of vogue today, but these forum scrubs still exist in full-force.

At the end of the day: you contributed to your scene by participating in it; which is way more than a fairly large percentage of the modern "FGC" can admit to. Not only that: you got definitely better not just from the experience from Ghandi - but from your experience of playing in an offline tournament in general. The lessons learned playing other players in a tournament setting (casuals, money matches and tournament matches) cannot be undersold. The more tournaments you participate i, the better you will get. Bet it.

There's tons positive to abstract from the experience. Don't let the internet curb-stomp that because you're not willing to filter the platitudes generated by that video.

 

[K.Sabot]

Kokonoe?

If I'm going to pick a top tier, I'mma pick that toppest tier.

Also she's been the character I've been waiting for since CT.

 

[pixelish]

I'm just as interested in seeing what happens with Ghandi after this. It's clearly gone viral. At large tournaments there's always a number of players like him. Does he recognize that there's more to the game than he originally thought, discipline himself, learn the game and continue competing? Or does he just take solace in this temporary e-fame?

i posted this tweet by ryan hart earlier in the thread

Ryan Hart &#8207;@RyanJosephHart 16h

Please let me train Gandhi for one month, he has potential I believe I can make him win a major with one month's training! He's awesome!

 

[Kimosabae]

That's amazing. Could potentially be one of the coolest stories in the scene's history. Ryan would be smart to document this.

I think one month is way unrealistic, though. I'd even go as far as silly.

 

[Horseress]

i posted this tweet by ryan hart earlier in the thread

It's weird that no one has interviewed Gandhi so far after that epic match, to see who he is, what does he play (I don't think he plays SF in daily basis) and what does he thinks about all the exposure he got, etc

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

So Yea, what about that Ryu player? Did he play every match like that? Was he doing it to troll? Does he care everybody assumes he is a scrub?

 

[Seyavesh]

I'm going to man up and play loads of SF4 to get better. That's all I can do, that's all I'm going to do.

people are gonna say "yeah that's the spirit!" but here's another goal for you:
get good enough to where when fools try to call you out you can take their money for free

sucker punching people who think you're garbage is seriously one of the joys of fighting games

 

[Hitokage]

people are gonna say "yeah that's the spirit!" but here's another goal for you:
get good enough to where when fools try to call you out you can take their money for free

sucker punching people who think you're garbage is seriously one of the joys of fighting games

To be fair, you'll probably run into people who think they're hot shit regardless.

 

[K.Sabot]

I have to imagine this is how Liston felt after his legendary choke that will still never be beaten.

 

[OceanBlue]

I have to imagine this is how Liston felt after his legendary choke that will still never be beaten.

That is amazing.

 

[Aquashark]

I have to imagine this is how Liston felt after his legendary choke that will still never be beaten.

that was not a choke though, it was a premature celebration

 

[sephi22]

I don't get why Dawson is so down because of this. Embrace the infamy.
I know you're trying to take this serious, but its ok man. Happens to everyone.

I don't know you or your situation, but its not the end of the world. Unless you want to play fighting games for a living, who cares? No offense but worse blowups have happened to way better players.

From your thread in the OT, clearly you had a great time at Dreamhack and Sweden. That's more than most of us can say about our FGC experience. Just keep playing and getting better. The only way is up.

Also, no one's going to remember this a few months from now. This isn't a case of a top player losing to a scrub. This isn't like Ageojoe putting the US marvel scene on blast that it will go down in history. This isn't Marn's Bionic Arm moment. Better yet, this isn't like losing to a C.O.R.N. member while the others mock and jeer and yell in your ear.

Having said that, you're a way better player than I am, and that video wouldn't have been as amazing if not for your IRL reactions to Gandhi's shenanigans. You made my day a little more joyous man, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Cheers mate.

P.S. It still surprises me how many Americans use 'Ghandi' when the Indian Freedom Fighter was named 'Gandhi' and the gamertag of the Ryu scrub was 'Gandhi' too

 

[K.Sabot]

that was not a choke though, it was a premature celebration

Liston punished a viper that had less than 20 life with ultra when he could have just jabbed him for Christ's sake. Major lapse of judgement on so many parts.