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Final Fantasy 7's crappy textures confirmed to be an Unreal Engine bug. Game has terrific textures.
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Nickolaidas
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I'll take 'incomplete' FF7's bugs over 'complete' Witcher 3/Fallout/Skyrim's bugs any day.well that's ok it's not like they released a buggy game for 60$ that is only 1/3 of the full original game.
modern gaming sure makes my nips rock hard
Aion002
Member
Nope.
The foundation is made. See RE3R or games like Assassins Creed (used to be one per year) and Yakuza.
Once you get the base game, everything can go way faster.
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Saint Boot
Banned
Same here, honestly.
Side note: Awesome avatar! I wish I could find a Kos Mos one similar to it.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
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Spokker
Member
When you pay $60 to play a game, and that's what it looks like for the entirety of your playtime, then yes, those are the real textures.
Square made the choice to go with Unreal engine and release it in that state.
TheAssist
Member
Because it's made on Unreal Engine which is scalable.
Also, if they can't complete this game by 2022 Square is trolling....
And I will play when I want to play... Probably on my pc... With a shit ton of mods.
scalable doesnt mean you dont have to put a lot of work into it. infact you have to put A LOT of work into it.
Aion002
Member
Well... That work won't be for free... After all, the PS4 will have a bigger base and the lower minimum requirements on pc will also net more sales.
TheAssist
Member
That only counts of the game comes out 2021 or early 2022. In 2023 (which I think is realistic) that wont matter.
Lethal01
Member
Voice acting is great assuming you play in the original langauge.
Nickolaidas
Member
…. what did I say?
That would be wholly correct if it wasn't entirely wrong.
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Lethal01
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wrong guy
Aion002
Member
3 volumes, one per year.
That's what I imagine.
Sure, if S-E can't delivery, I agree with you... But in my honest opinion, they have to be really incompetent to not at least try.
S-E is a big studio, with Sony involved in FFVII, I think that they are able to... If they aren't... Well, it will be really shitty to take so much time to complete the remake....
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FranXico
Member
It will come to xbox soon, if you really want to play it there, you just need to wait a bit.
Tiamat2san
Member
Just have to wait for the next gen version then.
Maybe on Xbox if available. (Pretty sure it will be )
But if FFVIIR released on Xbox one/X/series X , I don’t think square could sell a PS5 version without giving a free upgrade for the PS4 owners.
Maybe on Xbox if available. (Pretty sure it will be )
But if FFVIIR released on Xbox one/X/series X , I don’t think square could sell a PS5 version without giving a free upgrade for the PS4 owners.
TheAssist
Member
Ahw hell no, they dont make one game per year
. They dont even have several studios working on it like CoD or AC. I think 3 years is an optimistic guess for the release of part 2. Depending on how much they will cover in the second game. They still dont know themselves. I'd rather wait longer for bigger games. I dont want this to be Assassins Creed Cosmo Canyon. More time usually means bigger changes in tech, gameplay and overall look and feel. One game during the early middle and one in the late phase of the generation would be fine by me.
theclaw135
Banned
The Last Remnant's performance issues on 360 was one of the biggest disappointments of its console generation. S-E struggling with an Unreal engine isn't exactly news to me.
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
I really hope so.
I read somewhere that the second Episode/Volume whatever will release at 2023. They gotta be kidding with that.
I've upgrade my ps4 pro with an ssd because of those texture issues and the loading times.
It helped a lot with the loading times however I still have those unloaded door textures.
I'll try to recreate the database once more later and going to test it. However I don't think its going to help.
fvng
Member
well that's ok it's not like they released a buggy game for 60$ that is only 1/3 of the full original game.
modern gaming sure makes my nips rock hard
"Buggy"
Aion002
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Kev Kev
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Rentahamster
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Zambatoh
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I don't think anyone was saying that in this thread. But to answer your question, I'm gonna say...yes. Since Day 0 even.
I remember being surprised to see Hitman Season 1 take over a minute to load on PS4, whereas the PC version can load a map in 10 seconds, tops. This has been true for most games throughout the generation.
And a big source of the problem comes from the PS4's GPU needing to read data directly from the System RAM which, in itself, is dependent on the HDD's reading speed. On PC, a game will usually load all major assets into RAM, so that the GPU can simply pick and choose the data it needs directly from the RAM and copies it to it's own RAM chip as opposed to a Hard Drive.
The PC's method is a bit more complicated in it's approach, but it works.
Next gen consoles are attempting to fix this problem by using a newer SSD standard, so it probably won't be an issue anymore since they are essentially 100% Solid State in their design.
TL; DR version
PC: Has 2 pools of RAM for different purposes. Not reliant on HDD read speed.
PS4: Only 1 pool of RAM, So GPU is reliant on HDD's read speed.
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Rentahamster
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Bonsaibäumchen
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Whats bothering me is this game has been out for over 2 months. It has been highly anticipated, and had good sales numbers. Yet I don't see any sign of Sony - Squeenix or anybody actually admitting this problem and any info if theres going to be a patch.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Considering how incompetent square are and how they’ve come out and said about smaller parts - I’ve come to the conclusion that we will get 4 more games which take 3 years each to make.
But seriously fuck them, they could have made a faithful remake with updates graphics and the new battle system all in one game. Too many people have been sold And believe incompetent squares lies that the game is just too big for one game.
maybe cut out the excessive padding and pointless fetch quests for a start.
But seriously fuck them, they could have made a faithful remake with updates graphics and the new battle system all in one game. Too many people have been sold And believe incompetent squares lies that the game is just too big for one game.
maybe cut out the excessive padding and pointless fetch quests for a start.
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Kumomeme
Member
ps2 is exeggerated...ps3 is still acceptable
sid2vicious
Banned
Harsh much? What has Square ever done to you? When you compare them to what western companies do, how can you act so critical of them? You act like they killed your mother! Look at what Bethesda just did with Doom Eternal, installing denuvo spyware on your computer. Look at what Blizzard is doing to beloved ips and turning them into mobile trash or downright breaking their games. Look at Naughty Dog pushing their woke agenda upon their games while striking down any criticism against them. The list goes on, so when I say companies do deserve their share amount of criticism, Square is nowhere near that bad on a moral standpoint. Perhaps the only one blind or sold on lies here is you.
sid2vicious
Banned
Except Days Gone is a shats game while FF7 Remake isn't.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I played both and this is patently false.
But yeah if you like 5 hours of game terribly bloated into 40h shittly paced with shit tier sidequest, mediocre hybrid combat, the most uneven graphics ever and the fact that they rape the original plot to insert kingdom hearts nomura shit tier stuff than yes, ff7 remake js the greatest game ever
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sid2vicious
Banned
I played both and this is patently false.
But yeah if you like 5 hours of game terribly bloated into 40h shittly paced with shit tier sidequest, mediocre hybrid combat, the most uneven graphics ever and the fact that they rape the original plot to insert kingdom hearts nomura shit tier stuff than yes, ff7 remake js the greatest game ever
Sorry but I'm not sorry to disagree with your shat taste in games
GymWolf
Gold Member
Imagine the fucks that i give if you disagree or not with me, also we were talking about graphics, how insecure are you to steer from the point of discussion just because that thing is getting massacrated because of his ps2 era textures?!Sorry but I'm not sorry to disagree with your shat taste in games
After the unfinished mess that was ff15 at launch, square strikes again with another unfinished product, but yeah at least people who is not gonna pay full price for the game like i did maybe is gonna have the textures fixed in a couple of months, hip hip hurrah for square
sid2vicious
Banned
Kamina
Golden Boy
WTF?someone sat there and modeled the ff13 dog and was like ye this is fine, that dog also shows up in 13 and 13-2 since assets were reused in some places. cant find a pic where he was in 13-2 but i recall seeing him. he was in a couple spots in the original though.
martino
Member
That logic..It's the frist UE game i see not loading at all lot of textures 100% of the time.
Imo the problem is more how SE use of the engine and how they do QA.
I highly doubt ps5/pc will avoid the problem without fixit it.
this is can and should be fixed on ps4.
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sublimit
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I enjoyed the last 10 hours of the game (from Shinra building and onwards),and given that i expected that they would change major parts of the plot (which was apparent even from the demo) i didn't have any problems with the ending.I actually find it very hypocritical of those old "fans" who suppossedly liked the previous parts of the game which SE also changed (or added pointless filler) to pretend that they were angry about the ending (i'm not talking about you GymWolf).I played both and this is patently false.
But yeah if you like 5 hours of game terribly bloated into 40h shittly paced with shit tier sidequest, mediocre hybrid combat, the most uneven graphics ever and the fact that they rape the original plot to insert kingdom hearts nomura shit tier stuff than yes, ff7 remake js the greatest game ever
But yeah this game had much more serious problems than its inconsistent textures. And those problems were definitely not Unreal engine "bugs".
Kev Kev
Member
ok this has been bothering since i saw this topic. im not trying to pick a fight or rustle any jimmies so dont get worked up. and im dumb when it comes to engines, development and textures and all that so just hear me out...
SE developed this game for unreal engine 4 correct? so they knew what it was going to be able to do and not do, right? so, and maybe im hearing this wrong, but are we trying to give them a pass for the shitty textures in their game that they developed and had to have known about?
i mean, they knew what it could and coudlnt do, whether it was before they developed, as they were developing it it or after they made it and tested it... but they went through with developing it and releasing it like this anyway. so who cares if the engine couldnt do it, they were the ones who made the game for that engine and ultimately are responsible for it looking like that, right?
ok nobody FLIP OUT MAN! im just trying to understand the situation, im not saying the "game sux breh" or SE is garbage or anything. just looking for clarification. thank you, namaste
SE developed this game for unreal engine 4 correct? so they knew what it was going to be able to do and not do, right? so, and maybe im hearing this wrong, but are we trying to give them a pass for the shitty textures in their game that they developed and had to have known about?
i mean, they knew what it could and coudlnt do, whether it was before they developed, as they were developing it it or after they made it and tested it... but they went through with developing it and releasing it like this anyway. so who cares if the engine couldnt do it, they were the ones who made the game for that engine and ultimately are responsible for it looking like that, right?
ok nobody FLIP OUT MAN! im just trying to understand the situation, im not saying the "game sux breh" or SE is garbage or anything. just looking for clarification. thank you, namaste
