wtf? fucking technology, man
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Final Fantasy real time tech demo - Luminous Studio [Up3: Survey/Screens/Video]
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wtf? fucking technology, man
Except for the enemy dudes, this is not in any way, shape or form "western-style bullshit". The world design looks supremely creative.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
They've already admitted that Crystal Tools was a mistake. The main objective with Luminous is to decrease development times while being easy to use and flexible.
Nah, at least they showed some gameplay there. Watch Dogs was really cool.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Don't worry, I'm sure it will come out before The Last Guardian does.
linko9
Member
I felt a similar feeling when FF7 came out. What the fuck was up with the trucks and refrigerators? That's not FF. I got over it soon enough, but I still don't like it. Same goes for this new shit, if the game looks that good, and plays well, I'll get over it, but I'll never like it. Anyway, I'm certainly not surprised to see that from SE.
Thank you for being one of the few sensible people on here.
Of course, games may look better than BF3 (I already think some do), but BF3 has some very resource-heavy settings going on in the game on PC at full settings. I expect Watch_Dogs (PC demo) to be the "norm" of next-gen consoles (with some sacrifices here or there, maybe).
As someone said earlier, until a game with this fidelity comes out, don't expect graphics of this tech-demo's quality for next gen consoles.
But alas, people on here will expect no less from next-gen than what is seen here in this tech-demo which will put modern high-end gaming PCs to their knees, grasping for air..... and more power, lol.
Watch Dogs was really cool. This is even better.
Now Square just needs to get over themselves and release it day-and-date for PC.
toddhunter
Member
Leaving aside the whole "middle east/arab" thing (If it is a desert setting, that is how people are going to dress), why do people assume they are terrorists?
I'm pretty sure the priest type guy ticks all the Final Fantasy 'bad dude' boxes. I assumed he was up to some evil magic shit and those guys were coming in to stop him. The girl of course is held under control via the bracelet or something.
I'm pretty sure the priest type guy ticks all the Final Fantasy 'bad dude' boxes. I assumed he was up to some evil magic shit and those guys were coming in to stop him. The girl of course is held under control via the bracelet or something.
I actually agree with that, from the start I also thought that he was the "bad dude". And yes, I guess you could make that argument about their mode of dress (if not their weaponry). I still don't like it.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
In terms of pure visual, this is better than anything I have seen in E3. This could change when they show off Unreal Engine 4, I don't know.
But yes, its not fair to compare this to Star Wars 1313 or Watch Dogs, since those 2 games were actual "game" with gameplay mechanics already implemented, while this was just pure cutscene.
But this still gives me good hope. I don't really expect next-gen consoles to handle this graphic in gameplay perfectly at the beginning. But I do expect somewhat similar graphics, with maybe lower resolution/AA than this in mid-end cycle of next gen.
If Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs graphics is the peak of next gen, then I will be very disappointed.
But yes, its not fair to compare this to Star Wars 1313 or Watch Dogs, since those 2 games were actual "game" with gameplay mechanics already implemented, while this was just pure cutscene.
But this still gives me good hope. I don't really expect next-gen consoles to handle this graphic in gameplay perfectly at the beginning. But I do expect somewhat similar graphics, with maybe lower resolution/AA than this in mid-end cycle of next gen.
If Star Wars 1313 and Watch Dogs graphics is the peak of next gen, then I will be very disappointed.
This isn't even a game yet. I can't get hyped over a cut-scene with no conceptualization of mechanics.
BlazingDarkness
Member
The grandmaster guy was summoning a creature, as a defense measure, the men with guns were invading to take the crystal - grandmaster was shot and the girl fled with the crystal. The terrorists injected the caged beast with some sort of steroid in an effort to capture her and the crystal, the beast that was originally being summoned appeared as the eclipse finally approached (the summoning up in the temple was interrupted before then) the summon saves the girl who escapes with the crystal
Pretty traditional FF stuff, nice how they mixed the potion in like that too
I can!
If I want deep, well-thought out mechanics I play Europa Universalis. I don't expect that from any "AAA" production, so I can at least enjoy the spectacle.
Not even if they have 6 gigs of ram?
You honestly believe just more RAM can replace raw power for gaming? Go ahead and put 12GB of RAM in a next-gen console. It won't equal the power of a GTX680, which is what this tech-demo is running on at the very bare minimum.
My PC has 8GB of RAM along with 1GB of VRAM. It would struggle trying to run this tech demo at 1080p in real time. Hell, even 720p is a stretch. Yes, consoles are better optimized for gaming. They still won't have the power to output this level of graphical fidelity.
Uhh...
No reason why Hamauzu, Uematsu, etc. can't handle the OST, no matter what the setting is like.
Furthermore, while I think it's probably refreshing to get away from FF being quite Japanese (in the eyes of many western gamers), this straight up looks like Dragon Age or something. It needs to retain the look and feel of FF. That doesn't mean you need to have super Japanese chars like Vanille running around every single game, or one dimensional uninspired puppets like Lightning, either... but, remember what made a lot of the characters, towns, etc. so great in FF. This doesn't seem to do that.
They are so caught up in appealing to the west that they're losing their soul.
No reason why Hamauzu, Uematsu, etc. can't handle the OST, no matter what the setting is like.
Furthermore, while I think it's probably refreshing to get away from FF being quite Japanese (in the eyes of many western gamers), this straight up looks like Dragon Age or something. It needs to retain the look and feel of FF. That doesn't mean you need to have super Japanese chars like Vanille running around every single game, or one dimensional uninspired puppets like Lightning, either... but, remember what made a lot of the characters, towns, etc. so great in FF. This doesn't seem to do that.
They are so caught up in appealing to the west that they're losing their soul.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Im with you regarding the OST, but I haven't seen any "non-finalfantasy" stuff in this video. Infact I think it's very Final Fantasy, but a Final Fantasy that appeals to the world, like the old times.
Speaking of which, no 1080p download link for this tech demo? I'd like to run it on my ps3 eheh.
linko9
Member
I take it you have not played Dragon Age. This looks nothing like it.
How can people say this? This looks a billion times more inspired visually and in terms of setting than any Dragon Age. Have you played Dragon Age?
I agree completely.
gundamkyoukai
Member
This is what i expecting from next gen , the tech demo was good and you can even see the flaws in it .
I dislike the AK and the shaky camera but other than that it was good.
Now depending on the hardware i expect the big boys like Epic , SSM , SE , ND , PD to even surpass that in some ways .
I dislike the AK and the shaky camera but other than that it was good.
Now depending on the hardware i expect the big boys like Epic , SSM , SE , ND , PD to even surpass that in some ways .
toddhunter
Member
Could be, but no way that grandmaster was a good guy. He might appear to be, but you can bet 100% by the end of the game he would be sprouting wings and horns and talking about destiny.
nelsonroyale
Member
clearly real time and clearly beautiful, best visual display at E3 so far I would say, although its just a cutscene. Using Azam Ali for this is awesome.
if this is what FFXV is going to look like next gen then I am very pleased...still I would have prefered to have seen Versus over this.
if this is what FFXV is going to look like next gen then I am very pleased...still I would have prefered to have seen Versus over this.
BlazingDarkness
Member
He was just passionate
From what he says about them being invaded and having the magic taken away from them, the story looks to be some sort of magick vs technology war (a la FFVI)
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
Oh, no. That definitely comes first. But more RAM will help.
By the way, i don't believe either that PS4720 will be able to pull that demo off in a gameplay setting. I was just dreaming.
That level of graphics is still far away. PS5820 away.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Give me FFIX style graphics
Very impressive.
I take this to mean next-gen games will look as to what the current one looks to the previous tech demo:
Tech demo:
How games looked:
Not bad. So this tells me next-gen games won't look this good, but will be close enough. Also, I am more interested in studios other than SE when it comes to next gen graphics that have shown the best visuals this gen. SE, to me, are the masters of CG bar none, but not gameplay visuals. They have the best designs in gaming (masters of chimeras) but not actually the graphics, per se.
I am very excited for next gen and it is long overdue.
I take this to mean next-gen games will look as to what the current one looks to the previous tech demo:
Tech demo:
How games looked:
Not bad. So this tells me next-gen games won't look this good, but will be close enough. Also, I am more interested in studios other than SE when it comes to next gen graphics that have shown the best visuals this gen. SE, to me, are the masters of CG bar none, but not gameplay visuals. They have the best designs in gaming (masters of chimeras) but not actually the graphics, per se.
I am very excited for next gen and it is long overdue.
It's a real-time tech demo. They just need to embrace PC as a platform
toddhunter
Member
He was just passionate
From what he says about them being invaded and having the magic taken away from them, the story looks to be some sort of magick vs technology war (a la FFVI)
That would be the first half of the game. Then he comes back from the dead and she realises he was evil all along (he wears red and his underlying have hoods after all).
Then she and her loyal male snowboarding friend With short purple hair stop him and save the world, only for the god of everything to show up at the end and decide to end time just to be a dick.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Remember the FF13 tech demo from 2006? The cgi cutscenes looked like that demo, but not the gameplay.
This was a very lovely demo, but I doubt much of it will look like final gameplay from SE next gen...until maybe very late in the generation.
This was a very lovely demo, but I doubt much of it will look like final gameplay from SE next gen...until maybe very late in the generation.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Day one.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
After watching the video for the second time, I dunno... some things do remind me of FF, but it just isn't grabbing me yet.
Her hair is very FF. The spell, also very FF.
Some parts remind me of something more like Uncharted or some other type of adventure game.
I dunno. It was a good effort I suppose. Please give me Versus before this, though. After that, I guess FF really doesn't have anywhere else left to go in terms of console gaming, so, a new direction is a good thing. I just want them to do it right and not farm it out to westerners.
And, again, for fuck's sake, don't abandon the composers. FFXII and XIII are very polarizing, XIV is a disaster; everyone can agree that they all had amazing OST's for the most part. That's because the one area where S-E is above the fray is the quality of their music. There's no reason why they can't have them compose for a game like this.
Her hair is very FF. The spell, also very FF.
Some parts remind me of something more like Uncharted or some other type of adventure game.
I dunno. It was a good effort I suppose. Please give me Versus before this, though. After that, I guess FF really doesn't have anywhere else left to go in terms of console gaming, so, a new direction is a good thing. I just want them to do it right and not farm it out to westerners.
And, again, for fuck's sake, don't abandon the composers. FFXII and XIII are very polarizing, XIV is a disaster; everyone can agree that they all had amazing OST's for the most part. That's because the one area where S-E is above the fray is the quality of their music. There's no reason why they can't have them compose for a game like this.
It's a real-time tech demo. They just need to embrace PC as a platform
This, so badly. I'd love to play this game, and I'd have no problem upgrading my system just to play games of this level, though my wallet would take a hit. I'd expect a GTX680 as the bare minimum to run this smoothly :<
Wouldn't be surprised if the bare minimum was two 680s, either.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
It's a real-time tech demo. They just need to embrace PC as a platform
Its in movie form though. I know PC's are powerful but your telling me that can be playable?
Wait wat... I wake up on that, i'm pretty shocked.
This is actually superioir in many ways to any FF cgi before... lol. How could it be real time?
In a way, if even slightly possible, what i like is that it clearly put to shame unreal 4 or any Wachtes Dogs/Star Wars. I really think people believing those are next gen lack ambitions.. Let me tell you my friends, if the next gen is even remotly ambiguous in a way we can actually discuss if a game is possible or not on this gen, nobody will buy this shit.
About FF, i anwsered that european and realisstic inspirations for FF are a good thing (and actually more fitted to old school FF than the j-pop recent ones). Now, guns, references to war fps.. it's a nono thx.
This is actually superioir in many ways to any FF cgi before... lol. How could it be real time?
In a way, if even slightly possible, what i like is that it clearly put to shame unreal 4 or any Wachtes Dogs/Star Wars. I really think people believing those are next gen lack ambitions.. Let me tell you my friends, if the next gen is even remotly ambiguous in a way we can actually discuss if a game is possible or not on this gen, nobody will buy this shit.
About FF, i anwsered that european and realisstic inspirations for FF are a good thing (and actually more fitted to old school FF than the j-pop recent ones). Now, guns, references to war fps.. it's a nono thx.
I can understand that - don't agree with it, but definitely understand it.
Honestly, it didn't look out of reach at all.
Unlike that movie, this one has clear realtime rendering artifacts in 1080p.
On 2 680s? Sure. Maybe just 1 for 30 FPS.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It's a real-time tech demo. They just need to embrace PC as a platform
Well unless Sony\MS go cheap on hardware , i think some people underestimating how long it has been in the hardware world .
Look at certain games on currents system that 7 years old and the specs they have , don't see why this can't happen next gen.
If only Devs could go all out on PC some people won't be saying this so far away .
toddhunter
Member
What are your top 3 ff games? I bet all 3 have guns.
The rest I sort of agree with. The problem is it is one thing being able to create scenes that look like this, it is quite another thing to take the time to do it.
StrongArmSteady
Member
Hmm... didnt that last scene look like she was flying past midgard?
That large building in the middle certainly had a shinra reactor feel to it..
That large building in the middle certainly had a shinra reactor feel to it..
Not even if they have 6 gigs of ram?
My PC has 16gb of ram, and two GTX580s with 3gb of vram each, and I have no doubt it would struggle to run that demo.
Max Payne 3 puts some stress on my PC with all effects and MSAA on, and it doesn't even come close to looking like that. I think people are setting themselves up for a disappointment if they think they'll be seeing those kind of graphics from the next systems.
They gave in all the way back with FFVIII when FFVII was big. Problem is that took mild steps that stayed consistent with the whole (more realistic faces versus blatant anime visuals), here they went with some bizarre mix of extremes, something very Final Fantasy-ish with typical generic middle eastern gureillas and modern weapons/vehicles clashing with the magic focus. FFVII managed to make it relatively consistent though the low fidelity likely helped along with the fact it didn't blatantly use the most overdone foe in modern shooters, but this failed speculatively. Part of the concept art goes to Crystal Dynamics, so I'm hoping it was just them doing designs for what would've been a generic western shooter, and they just slapped that crap in here brainlessly.
HOPEFULLY there's enough backlash that gets removed or at least reworked in a way consistent with FF, and that evolves into FFXV or whatever.
