Lights and Waves
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I will say...the stubble they gave Vaan is kinda cute.
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Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age |OT| You Had One Job!
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Pinko Marx
Banned
Hmm...I'm not sure I dig changing the bestiary illustrations to a model viewer...
Post for the Ages stuff right here by Mr Grumpy
Yeah, same. The old art was really good.
Lights and Waves
Member
First time playing? I haven't played since PS2 era, but wait till you get to Some of the later boss in the first third of the game. The fire esper and the bosses of the king's tomb will test your sanity and intelligence.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The opening of the game aside from the CGI reminds me again how terrible and incoherent it feels.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Great job on the OT dig the banners. And looking forward to checking it out when my copy arrives. Also hilarious OT subtitle lol
kitsunelaine
Banned
So which jobs have Steal unlockable?
kitsunelaine
Banned
Thanks! Guess I won't have a thief in my party. Dang.
GodParticle
Member
I could listen to fran talk all day
potatohead
Member
Someone recommend me an OP lineup.
I have Vaan as monk but can't decide roles for anyone else. Not that I'm ever there yet but I want to know what to do lol.
I have Vaan as monk but can't decide roles for anyone else. Not that I'm ever there yet but I want to know what to do lol.
Wolf Akela
Member
There's really no way to tell without a guide.
IIRC the usual recommendation I read was to just keep at least 10 of every loot, but IDK if that is accurate.
edit: Nevermind. This seems like a good summary:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75543663/882542761
I have no idea why they didn't just turn stuff like Chops into key items.
MetalliCabombination
Member
There is no dedicated thief class,hunter gets most of the relevant skills i think.
Goddammit, game=broken
Did they remove the secret merchant that sells ether btw?
Honestly?
The opening 30 minutes of this game set up a better story than 13 and 15 do in their entire runtime.
Only 9 has a better opening hour imo
MetalliCabombination
Member
Vaan wouldve been better off as a pure physical attacker but i guess you can now pair him with black mage for op magic,healing and holy.
Go for a samurai knight as phys leader
And a samurai hunter if you want to beat the final superboss easily
Red mage hunter is a self sufficient tank with great offence
White mage should go with machinist
And time mage can go with uhlan or knight
OriginalPoe
Banned
Damn... this boss is quite the check.
Love how beating the bosses feels in this game though.
demon wall
Love how beating the bosses feels in this game though.
Her voice/ the accent is so amazing (and sexy 🤗
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Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Vaan was born to be a Shikari. Why even waste any more offensive roles on him?
This is great. Thank you!
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Well to be honest, I thought the first part was a giant slog. I enjoyed the" incomplete" parts when I departed Rabanastre for some reason.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Should I follow a guide for unlocking licenses or can I just kind of wing it without many issues cropping up later?
Fran's Japanese voice is so much better, damn. Also, Balthier is Sanji from One Piece!
Fran's Japanese voice is so much better, damn. Also, Balthier is Sanji from One Piece!
OriginalPoe
Banned
You can cast offensive spells on allies and defensive spells on enemies in gambits. Just a friendly reminder.
Balthier, Fran and Vaan all have Steal as innate ability. So you don't need to have a specific thief job to do the stealing.
I accidentally set Fran to attack nearest ally. Was so confused for a minute.
SoulUnison
Banned
Oh, this was today?
Wow, this was a big deal to me and yet it somehow snuck up.
Oh well, I don't have $50 at the moment, anyway.
Wow, this was a big deal to me and yet it somehow snuck up.
Oh well, I don't have $50 at the moment, anyway.
The first or the second?
You're generally supposed to run from the first encounter unless you're generously overlevelled for that portion of the game.
You're generally supposed to run from the first encounter unless you're generously overlevelled for that portion of the game.
OriginalPoe
Banned
Second one actually.
HerroRygar
Member
I think that's an Icelandic accent, actually. It is pretty cool.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
She does sound quite a bit like Bjork.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
My first time playing this. Played about a couple of hours.
Art direction reminds me of Vagrant story and even a bit of The Last Story. They have the same members of the team here or there?
Art direction reminds me of Vagrant story and even a bit of The Last Story. They have the same members of the team here or there?
MetalliCabombination
Member
Now that i think about
If i have a party of dark absorb wearers and use soul eater on each other and have just one equipped with yagyu darkblade instead+black robes instead, would that eliminate my need for a dedicated healer? Assuming something other than whm has esuna.
I imagine thief's glove to be restricted to certain jobs though, same for mug and poach which i imagine might have some interdependence.
kitsunelaine
Banned
Oooh, cool! I guess I *can* have a thief after all. And here I thought Fran couldn't get any more awesome.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I disagree. XIII had a far better opening than XII where the only epic moments are in the CGI while the rest are narrated through text. Wasted potential as you go back to slaying rats in a sewer out of nowhere and then act as an errands boy.
FFIX has you invade and rescue a princess. It is one of the best opening in a FF and introduces us to the main character very well. Nowhere comparable to the errands boy Vaan.
I think Bushi/Red Mage is even better at the same stuff. Doesn't get quite as high evade but instead you can get Bloodsword A in the Trial battle 3 so sword + shield combo. Bushi unlocks Bloodsword licenses through Esper. Now equip Genji Armor + Genji Helmet + Jackboots and you get 100% counter chance. Bloodsword A confuses every enemy that isn't immune to it with its 100% confuse chance. So basically every enemy that attacks you in melee, gets confused if not immune.
Ashe is the best with this job combo as she gets all those goodies and still 99STR and 99MAG end game.
And the reason for Bushi over Knight with this combo is that Bushi/Red Mage gets 3 swiftness licenses and Knight/Red Mage gets only 1. So Bushi is 24% faster.
The beginning isn't great. The gameplay opens up when you get out of a certain prison which is like 1 hour away from where you are now.
I can't really agree with you on the VA complaints. VA in this game is amazing.
MetalliCabombination
Member
You run like 1 errand before the infiltration and subsequent introduction of 5/6 party members.
And it makes sense because an errand boy is exactly who he is before the incident.
Slaying rats to meet ends after your state just lost the war made far more sense than anything in the first two hours of 13.
Yeah it plays epic, but we know dick all about whats going on or who any of the characters are or why theyre with each other or what theyre trying to do. The game doesn't start making sense until ch3 when the characters finally take a break and you try and understand what just happened.
15's is simple enough but its just dull dull dull.
And i say that as someone who unlike 99% of gaf actually likes both these games
FlutterPuffs
Member
The sewer rat opening was clearly a tribute to MMO games. How you start the beginning of most MMOs during that time going into sewers to kill rats.
Was a popular meme too.
Pinko Marx
Banned
I feel like they were stylized in such a way that made me feel like I was flipping through an encyclopedia.I'm not sure why people are upset about the model viewer in the bestiary - the original did *not* have illustrations, it had blurry screenshot cutouts that people seem to be mistaking for illustrations in their memories.
Either way it's a minor nitpick.
Also you posted a bad example.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Starting my first ever FFXII run. Really excited!
I've put together this plan for a job/party set-up:
Vaan - Shikari / Red Battlemage
Balthier - Machinist / Uhlan
Basch - Bushi / Knight
Fran - Monk / Foebreaker
Ashe - Black Mage / Archer
Penelo - White Mage / Time Battlemage
Anything ridiculous that I should reconsider before moving on from the planning stage to actually playing the game?
I've put together this plan for a job/party set-up:
Vaan - Shikari / Red Battlemage
Balthier - Machinist / Uhlan
Basch - Bushi / Knight
Fran - Monk / Foebreaker
Ashe - Black Mage / Archer
Penelo - White Mage / Time Battlemage
Anything ridiculous that I should reconsider before moving on from the planning stage to actually playing the game?
Gil snapper down! Very tough hunt if you tackle it as soon as it's available.
Should be great.
Starting my first ever FFXII run. Really excited!
Anything ridiculous that I should reconsider before moving on from the planning stage to actually playing the game?
Should be great.
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
After like 2hrs of deliberations and referring to the wiki for what each job/weapon class actually does, here's my lineup. I don't care about being bleeding edge optimized, I'm keeping it!
Vaan - Shikari/Bushi
No brainer for his character -- rogueish and speed focused.
Penelo - Red Mage/Foebreaker
I loved the absurdity of having Penelo wield large hammers in my original playthrough all those years ago. This is an homage to a simpler time.
Fran - Machinist/White Mage
Her stats are the lowest so gun felt right. Wanted to stick on Time Mage, the other non-scaling job, but Machinist already gets some Time Magick. My headcanon is that she swaps weapons with Balthier for funsies so he gets bows and she gets guns.
Balthier - Archer/Uhlan
Kind of filler. Choices made were tied to Fran.
Basch - Knight/Time Mage
My main tank. Time Mage lets him use his MP without worrying about scaling on his Magick stat.
Ashe - Black Mage/Monk
High spell damage + monk still gets Holy.
Vaan - Shikari/Bushi
No brainer for his character -- rogueish and speed focused.
Penelo - Red Mage/Foebreaker
I loved the absurdity of having Penelo wield large hammers in my original playthrough all those years ago. This is an homage to a simpler time.
Fran - Machinist/White Mage
Her stats are the lowest so gun felt right. Wanted to stick on Time Mage, the other non-scaling job, but Machinist already gets some Time Magick. My headcanon is that she swaps weapons with Balthier for funsies so he gets bows and she gets guns.
Balthier - Archer/Uhlan
Kind of filler. Choices made were tied to Fran.
Basch - Knight/Time Mage
My main tank. Time Mage lets him use his MP without worrying about scaling on his Magick stat.
Ashe - Black Mage/Monk
High spell damage + monk still gets Holy.
I do love FF9, but cannot really follow your complaints regarding this opening. I mean Vaan is essentially a surrogate for the undercast living in squalor following the direct events of the war you just witnessed. He is the perspective of life in the aftermath and its made very clear how his days are structured as he toils in lowly errands. NPC's are littered everywhere giving even more context as such. I'm not a fan of Vaan as a character, but I don't see fault in his personal introduction nor in explaining hunts as they do in that sequence. Can't really bitch about him being an errand boy and then give praise to FF9 for largely doing the same.
I mean if you just really hate Vaan then say it, but not enuff epic moments? Cmon now...(not gonna bother touching your XIII comparison since you didn't really make a case)
Random observation: I love the final shot of the opening CG of the crows upon the corpse-ridden battlefield in the rain.
Reminded me of the "Feast for Crows" title in the Song of Fire and Ice series - I think Matsuno could do a whole game about the forgotten peasant folk, ridden roughshod over by the nobility and left to wither in the dirt in war's wake, but that's probably too dark for a main FF.
Ie, Tactics 2, please...
Reminded me of the "Feast for Crows" title in the Song of Fire and Ice series - I think Matsuno could do a whole game about the forgotten peasant folk, ridden roughshod over by the nobility and left to wither in the dirt in war's wake, but that's probably too dark for a main FF.
Ie, Tactics 2, please...
Freeglader
Member
I'm curious about this too. I was thinking about making Fran a Bushi/Red Mage