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Final Fantasy XIII-2 might be real
- Thread starter Kifimbo
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I too was disappointed by the way Thirteen handled direct inputs. I wasn't Twelve's biggest fan, I did put something like two hundred hours into it though, but the gambit system was a scratch on the surface of huge potential. Thirteen, while having some great battle aspects itself, was a sharp decline from Twelve in the party A.I. system.
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There is no reason that they couldn't make this a good action game. Lightning and Sazh were the only two good characters. I didn't hate Fang very much and though I hated Vanille I understood that her character was a caricature of itself.
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ULTROS! said:
badcrumble said:
There is no reason that they couldn't make this a good action game. Lightning and Sazh were the only two good characters. I didn't hate Fang very much and though I hated Vanille I understood that her character was a caricature of itself.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Rahxephon91 said:
This.
Positioning is totally secondary and would be bad for the type of battle system.It's about controlling the flow of the battle, it's about speed and adapting to it's always changing battle conditions.
Also positioning was way more important in Last Remant and it was even worst than in XIII that at least somehow let you to control relative position of your characters, it was totally random, and I think is acknowledged as a very good battle system.
IA could have been way better, actually it was asking for a gambit alike system...and people was against it since the first details were revealed.They work well most of the time, but when it comes to debuffing/buffing they are useless.
The point I was trying to make is that I don't understand why people specifically complain about it FFXIII while grandia and FFX-2 were lauded (more realism) for having the same feature.Amir0x said:
First of all, I couldnt think of a better general configuration. You cant argue the AI brakes the game because its perfectly possible to 5-star every battle with the correct roles and equipment. If it wasnt, you had an argument.
Secondly, you need to accept that FFXIII is all about working with a fixed AI. Youre not supposed to control partmembers directly but to coach them. Its macromanagement gameplay just like gran turismo B-spec or football manager 2009.
You can curse all day long how the driver AI doesnt overtake the car in front by driving over a small stroke of grass like you usually do or you could just accept that (even if youre a better driver) youre not the one sitting in the car and do your job which is giving the AI the right car with the right settings and then give the right commands in order to make him win.
3, the biggest pro of FFXIII's fixed AI system is that it makes the entire game challenging for most gamers because it buffers player skill. The devs were able to scale the difficulty level properly because they could configure it with only one AI template in mind.
FFXIIs gambit system was excellent as well, but on one hand you had skilled players who got bored, on the other hand you had less skilled or experienced gamers who got slaughtered because they had poor skill priorities and roles for their party members.
Tears For Fears
Banned
Sad, good too know that SE isn't interested in making good games anymore.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Frillen said:
You clearly haven't played FF VIII or Star Ocean 3.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Skilletor said:
Ugh. Don't remind me of those.
So horrid.
WickedLaharl
Member
Frillen said:
i take it you've never played legend of dragoon or shadow madness then.
edit: forgot about beyond the beyond and quest 64.
Rahxephon91
Banned
But Square said it wasn't an rpg so HA!Frillen said:
Frillen said:
so you never played Mass Effect 2
I can do hyperbole too
FFXIII features a fun battle system at least, and some good graphics (PS3) and music to keep you entertained during the first 30 hours of exploring hallways... man, after playing Demon's Souls every other RPG looks like trash.