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Final Fantasy XIII-2: Non-Linear Time Traveling, Sidequests, New Great Locations
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Barack Lesnar
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Most of the screens in the OP are bullshots, right? The AA looks too good. Anyway, the game sounds great. I actually want to play a JRPG... wow.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
I'm lookin at an unplayed copy of XIII wondering if it's worth putting in...so much negative buzz. Is the combat in XIII-2 going to be the same as in XIII? Would that be enough to give the first one a chance, or will I have to trudge through 14 hours of tutorials till shit gets real?
On another note, this Helix Nebula or whatever sounds kinda like the mission-map frome X-2, for better or worse.
On another note, this Helix Nebula or whatever sounds kinda like the mission-map frome X-2, for better or worse.
edgefusion
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bistromathics said:
If you own it already then just put it in and see if you enjoy it. You'll find out quicker than waiting for replies here.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
all i heard about it was the gruelingly long tutorial section, thoughedgefusion said:
nelsonroyale
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Fang had the best design of any character in FFXIII
Sell your unplayed copy. The battle system in 13-2 is a slightly modified version of the vanilla 13 system. You'll have better luck just waiting for 13-2 than to play 13 if it bothers you that much to have a long tutorial.bistromathics said:
As for the story...well, that's what youtube is for.
Looks like soundtrack will be 4 CDs this time too. Dec 14 / 4800 yen
It's just threw the 1st 14 or so hours you can't choose who you want in your party and who you want to play as. You still upgrade your crystarium, you still paradigm shift and all. It is corridors until you reach pulse tho. Which is chapter 8 or 9 I think, I haven't played in a while.bistromathics said:
badcrumble
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That sounds like a seriously imbalanced thing to have as preorder DLC unless it's converting like 1/100 of the damage to HP (or unless it becomes available in-game anyway fairly early on and the game's balance accounts for it).miladesn said:
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
miladesn said:
Why instead of this unuseful stuff they don't just release exclusive story-chapters with pre-ordering, it works so well with Mass Effect and Dragon Age. They could do even something cooler, like an "Episode 0" where you control "Caius" and see his backstory before the happenings. There are so many chances and potential with this format that is a waste seeing again most of the DLCs used for some weapons or costumes.
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/fabula/ff13-2/
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eh err? the more not useful these retailer exclusive stuff are the better.
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Perfo said:
eh err? the more not useful these retailer exclusive stuff are the better.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
miladesn said:
I was not necessary referring to pre-order items sorry, but to DLCs in general. I heard Square Enix for now announced just Weapons, Monsters and Costumes to come... all things I don't really need. I mean, If I have to buy a DLC for this game one day, I'd prefer it to be something like "Lair of the Shadow Broker" (ME2) more than some extra weapons that I don't really have use for it. Maybe it's just me, but I'm usually only buying DLCs with story content. I can't see myself spending 2 euros on a Serah's costume instead of 4-6 euros for a 1-2hrs new journey in the lore of FFXIII-2. More over when the structure of the game (Historia Crux) really fits with the downloadable episodes concept.
miladesn said:
Limited edition it's a day one for me
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
oh god my wallet.miladesn said:
Actually it doesn't seem that bad this time around. Ordering when it's available (and I hope the exchange rate gets better when it's available).
Seriously. I think this practice is pretty dumb. If we get retailer-exclusive preorder bonuses in NA/EU it'll probably be for GameStop or GAME.
Some bits from the demo at Eurogamer expo (latest build of the demo); not much new/important. small things.
watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uty1hs7V970
example of a side quest;
map menu with list of active quests on it.
Paradigm shift;
Cerberus-X
Combat Clinic-W
they have different symbols on the that circle/wheel thing, the letter must be indicating the paradigm tune.
Pre-emptive strike;
it's different now, Noel only hits one enemy and it fills only half of the chain bar, you get buff instead looks like it (haste here)
pause menu;
"Save" and "Return to "Historia Crux" are here.
and settings;
watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uty1hs7V970
example of a side quest;
map menu with list of active quests on it.
Paradigm shift;
Cerberus-X
Combat Clinic-W
they have different symbols on the that circle/wheel thing, the letter must be indicating the paradigm tune.
Pre-emptive strike;
it's different now, Noel only hits one enemy and it fills only half of the chain bar, you get buff instead looks like it (haste here)
pause menu;
"Save" and "Return to "Historia Crux" are here.
and settings;
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I'm starting to think all the game is set in "mini-stages" (Historia Crux) not connected to each other. This means we access a place/period, solve the problem there (es. Breasha Ruins) then moving on with another period. There could be no way to pass from one area to another one by travelling on foot, all could be done just by taking "teleports". I don't think this method of "exploration" was what I was expecting... but it sounds interesting in its mechanics.
Eh? That doesn't sound very likely. Don't these gates just take you through time in the place where you're at (and aren't they mostly for side-quest purposes)? That, to me, would suggest that there's at least some connectivity between places. Part of it might be like Final Fantasy X where some place is only accessible with an airship and you pick that place from the map, but there are still locations where you run through several different environments to maybe arrive at some city, where you can take some form of transportation to some other island/part of the world.Perfo said:
Perfo said:
I think areas could actually be connected. It could be that in order to travel through time for a given area, you need to get to that area first and find the gate there. The Historia Crux could just be a sort of linked map menu to allow easy teleport between areas and timelines. Think of it as FFXIII, where even though the game is chapter based and you cannot return to previous areas, they are interconnected in the sense that you travel through the areas to get to the ones in the next chapter. The only difference here is that there are gates which allow you to teleport back and forth - just like Pulse in FFXIII.
At least, that's how I hope it's implemented.
jimmypython
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duckroll said:
yeah, you do need artifacts to unlock the gate before being able to use it....
finalboss2
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well guys, whats the consensus? is this game buyable? I'm liking that the way they optioned more player control for the people in battle is by having a customizable monster, I really like what they had goign in ff 13.
Speaking of which, does anybody know what the 'support' thing is in the battle screen, where it looks like there are a series of monsters on the right side of the statuses on the bottom? Does that mean the monsters can be interchanged, or are they actually in battle or something?
Speaking of which, does anybody know what the 'support' thing is in the battle screen, where it looks like there are a series of monsters on the right side of the statuses on the bottom? Does that mean the monsters can be interchanged, or are they actually in battle or something?
ScrabbleDude
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Demo spoilersFamassu said:
In the demo, Noel and Serah come through a gate and are on Coccon. So it seemed pretty clear that the gates take you through both time and space. The Bresha Ruins were the only environment the demo touched, but it seemed pretty self-contained.
djplaeskool
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I honestly cannot wait for this game.
Cornbread78
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Th more I see of it, the more interested I am in seeing how the monsters being added into parties adds to the dynamic. At teh same time, will there be plenty of game time to play with 3 characters, or do they pretty much lock it in with two and a monster a majority of the time?
Judging by the pause menu, it seems you can save anywhere and can return back to the Historia Crux anytime, thus making it a form of quick travel. It seems XIII-2's catching up on what is becoming more and more like a standard in JRPGs, which is great.
Disappointed at no music/sound effects/voices volume controls in the settings, XIII's balance was alright but again, music wasn't quite loud enough.
Disappointed at no music/sound effects/voices volume controls in the settings, XIII's balance was alright but again, music wasn't quite loud enough.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
duckroll said:
I hope it is like this too. However various things confuse me, for example it could be possible for the Historia Crux to keep also track of the "story-branches" we created through choices (see Tactics Ogre LUCT), without the option to going back to the ones we refused to access (for example, we decided to kill that character in the story so a certain path/chapter is now closed to us, instead of Story A we're moving to Story B) and this poses some problem to the logic of the free-wandering just discussed in connection with the menu of the Historia Crux. Anyway, it's just speculations.
I guess we will have to wait for the japanese's release to really find out about all of this.
ScrabbleDude said:
Yeah that's the fact, Bresha Ruins seems a closed area in itself. It could be the DEMO of course made like that...
jimmypython
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Perfo said:
Diva!..one of the goddess on the type-0 logo is called Diva as well......
R_thanatos
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The dlc approch of dissidia 012 even had music to be unlocked by DLC , i think this approch was quite Bad ....duckroll said:So basically, the DLC model for FFXIII-2 is based on the DLC model for Dissidia012. Not a bad approach I must say.
i don't have problem for costumes BUT giving dlc weapons is something that go bad quite easily ...
Perfo
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R_thanatos said:
I don't think it was "unlocked" but rather "downloaded"...
Anyway, it's an approach that works with a beat em 'up game like Dissidia 012, can't see that happening with a full scale RPG like FFXIII-2. I prefer the approach of Bioware on this like I already said, it means same stuff as announced here for this game (weapons, armors ect.) plus more serious content coming later like new characters, missions ect. and I really hope Square Enix is just waiting for the next year before announcing that these types of DLCs are indeed coming to FFXIII-2 too. If they are also developing FFXIII-3 like rumored, they could bridge the two titles easily with some downloadable episode for this chapter.
duckroll said:So basically, the DLC model for FFXIII-2 is based on the DLC model for Dissidia012. Not a bad approach I must say.
Eh. I wouldn't call downloading costumes (which unlike Dissidia, XIII-2 won't have loads of unused Amano art to utilize), music, and probably monsters for Paradigms for most likely overly inflated prices to be a good model. It's not Horse Armor, sure. But it's still a far cry from substantial DLC like Shivering Isles or something along those lines.
Sword Familiar
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Perfo said:
So basically...
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MechaX said:
It's a good model for me because it means that the team is only focusing on pure fanservice for equipment/weapons which are essentially costumes and gimmicks. I like that crap. If I don't like what is being offered, I can ignore it because it doesn't add anything substantial to the game at all. If I like it, I'm willing to pay more for it because it's just fluff. Like buying cotton candy at a theme park. You know it's overpriced, but if you're having a good time, whatever!
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