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[Vamphuntr]

Oh man Firestorm :lol :lol :lol

 

[Zoe]

How are PS3 movie files handled with regards to the audio? Is the audio kept separate?

In other words, will the audio during the 360's movie files be worse off than real time audio?

Anyone?

 

[LQX]

I bet it turns out looking better than the PS3 version with more AA.

 

[i_am_ben]

They're getting closer. At least it's not 6 months like usual :lol

Hey I come from Australia. At least it's not a year anymore. It's actually quite surreal to be getting it so soon!

 

[neojubei]

Very funny firestorm

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I bet it turns out looking better than the PS3 version with more AA.

And use NURBS!

Spoiler

NUUUUUURBS, NURBS NURBS NURBS NURBBBBSS!!

 

[Digital-Hero]

I bet it turns out looking better than the PS3 version with more AA.

Doubtful, but we shall see it in motion soon though. I actually want to see an actual pre-rendered cinematic comparison. Blu-ray is sure to excel in that department. (Oh, and audio as well. Uncompressed audio FTW.) Can't wait.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

:lol :lol

 

[Vamphuntr]

Square-Enix PR is really terrible. My God. First they send fake screenshots (ps3 shots with a 360 HUD) then they release badly cropped screenshots where we can still see the pointer on it. Finally the release anoter batch of screenshots but this time they show close up of characters where you can see that the hairs are not quite good on the 360. At least choose some others screen where you don't see weakness that much. The close up on lightning face really shows some weakness with the port.

 

[Synless]

I bet it turns out looking better than the PS3 version with more AA.

Yeah, thats pretty unlikely.

 

[Dead Prince]

I haven't seen any microsoft people talk about the images yet. Not even Major Nelson on twitter! Must be a sign!

 

[Vamphuntr]

I haven't seen any microsoft people talk about the images yet. Not even Major Nelson on twitter! Must be a sign!

It might be best to ignore it than to try damage control at this point. What can he say really? The best he could do is post a HD resolution video of the game running to see how well it fares.

 

[LiK]

review copies can't go out soon enough

 

[badcrumble]

Anyone?

Well, the PS3 version uses uncompressed audio, the 360 version does not, so the PS3 will have higher quality audio. I don't know what you mean by "kept separate" or "real time audio" though.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

So I take it no one got my

Spoiler

Revenge of the Nerds

reference in my last post.








FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

Spoiler

fml

 

[Zoe]

Well, the PS3 version uses uncompressed audio, the 360 version does not, so the PS3 will have higher quality audio. I don't know what you mean by "kept separate" or "real time audio" though.

Does the Bink compression affect audio as well, or is that something that could have been compressed separately along with the rest of the audio in the game?

 

[Kagari]

Anyone?

I don't think it was ever mentioned in any articles.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

It might be best to ignore it than to try damage control at this point. What can he say really? The best he could do is post a HD resolution video of the game running to see how well it fares.

They've still not shown any substantial footage of 360 version to the world yet have they? I mean in a trailer or developer walkthrough etc - if they did that now it would put the whole screenshot debacle to rest because it'll no doubt look great in motion

 

[LiK]

Well, the PS3 version uses uncompressed audio, the 360 version does not, so the PS3 will have higher quality audio. I don't know what you mean by "kept separate" or "real time audio" though.

i think he means the audio that is encoded with the FMV compared to the in-game cutscenes' audio.

 

[badcrumble]

Does the Bink compression affect audio as well, or is that something that could have been compressed separately along with the rest of the audio in the game?

Oh. I'm not sure, to be honest. Generally speaking it ought to be totally separate, I would think... and if it's anything like FFX there'll be sound mixing overlaid over the FMVs for easy transitions anyway.

 

[Khezu]

They've still not shown any substantial footage of 360 version to the world yet have they? I mean in a trailer or developer walkthrough etc - if they did that now it would put the whole screenshot debacle to rest because it'll no doubt look great in motion

The only footage I have even seen of the 360 version was on a giant bomb video, it showed some 360 combat footage mixed in with PS3 footage. Admittedly I haven't looked very hard, but considering all the interest in these few screens, I guess they haven't released a whole lot of media so far.

 

[Kagari]

They've still not shown any substantial footage of 360 version to the world yet have they? I mean in a trailer or developer walkthrough etc - if they did that now it would put the whole screenshot debacle to rest because it'll no doubt look great in motion

Not really. All of the trailers and initial direct feed shots/English media were of the PS3 version.

 

[Ned]

I am really very surprised that there seems to be such a small number of 'haha PS3 rulez' posts and instead there are so many 'omg teh 360 can't be that bad it must be crappy shots' posts.

I am sure the 360 port will be perfectly playable for those without a PS3. Not sure why those of us with both systems care which one is the better version as long as we know which one to get.

Hey - ME2 required disc swaps even when both discs were installed to the HDD...will this one too? That would suck...

 

[Kagari]

I am really very surprised that there seems to be such a small number of 'haha PS3 rulez' posts and instead there are so many 'omg teh 360 can't be that bad it must be crappy shots' posts.

I am sure the 360 port will be perfectly playable for those without a PS3. Not sure why those of us with both systems care which one is the better version as long as we know which one to get.

Hey - ME2 required disc swaps even when both discs were installed to the HDD...will this one too? That would suck...

Yes.

 

[Zoe]

Hey - ME2 required disc swaps even when both discs were installed to the HDD...will this one too? That would suck...

That's how all 360 built-in installations work.

 

[Vanille]

They've still not shown any substantial footage of 360 version to the world yet have they? I mean in a trailer or developer walkthrough etc - if they did that now it would put the whole screenshot debacle to rest because it'll no doubt look great in motion

There's quite a lot of 360 footage in this video: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/paradigm-shift-final-fantasy/61835

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Meh, remember when square first announced it, they carefully worded "there will be a 360 version of the game". That seemed pretty honest it seems now, of course then their talented PR team went to work. And here we are today!

 

[Kishgal]

Hey - ME2 required disc swaps even when both discs were installed to the HDD...will this one too? That would suck...

At least it's less likely that FF13 360 will have you swap to previous discs like ME2 does, though.

 

[Ned]

Yes.

Huh. I wonder why it doesn't just verify that you have one of the original discs in there but run all content off the HDD.

Is it just so if it is installed on 3 different units it won't run off all three discs? If so why not just tag it so you install all three but must have disc 1 in to play...

Seems odd to have the option to install but still need the disc flip. Pissed me off a little in ME2 (more because I didn't expect it than it was a real problem).

 

[fernoca]

Hey - ME2 required disc swaps even when both discs were installed to the HDD...will this one too? That would suck...

???
All Xbox 360 games that are installed on the HDD, through the dashboard recquire the specific disc in the disc drive.

In Mass Effect 2, you had to switch discs:
1- Nearly half of the game
2- Nearly the end of the game
Which demanded to insert back the 1st disc. (2 discs)

In Final Fantasy XIII, you do the same amount of swaps:
1- At some point like 5-10 hours later...
2- Like 5-10 hours after that..
..And this one has 3 discs.

Seems odd to have the option to install but still need the disc flip. Pissed me off a little in ME2 (more because I didn't expect it than it was a real problem).

But (I know off topic) how is that a problem, you do it twice..in 30 hours, not every 10 minutes.

 

[LiK]

I am really very surprised that there seems to be such a small number of 'haha PS3 rulez' posts and instead there are so many 'omg teh 360 can't be that bad it must be crappy shots' posts.

I am sure the 360 port will be perfectly playable for those without a PS3. Not sure why those of us with both systems care which one is the better version as long as we know which one to get.

cuz duckroll is watching!

 

[Ned]

That's how all 360 built-in installations work.

Really? I could have sworn either Lost Odyssey or Blue Dragon didn't need the flip when installed...I must have been mistaken.

 

[LiK]

Really? I could have sworn either Lost Odyssey or Blue Dragon didn't need the flip when installed...I must have been mistaken.

they needed it

 

[Ned]

???
All Xbox 360 games that are installed on the HDD, through the dashboard recquire the specific disc in the disc drive.

Yes I know for one disc games it still need the disc - I just am surprised that multi disc games still need disc swaps when even all are installed.

No big deal - when I had to disc flip ME2 it just surprised me is all.

 

[Ned]

they needed it

Cool - my bad then!

Carry on folks - sorry for the tangent. Get back to the screenies.

 

[schild]

Beginning to sound like the 360 got an upgraded PSP port of the game.

 

[Zoe]

Huh. I wonder why it doesn't just verify that you have one of the original discs in there but run all content off the HDD.

Is it just so if it is installed on 3 different units it won't run off all three discs? If so why not just tag it so you install all three but must have disc 1 in to play...

Seems odd to have the option to install but still need the disc flip. Pissed me off a little in ME2 (more because I didn't expect it than it was a real problem).

Anti-piracy/anti-sharing

 

[tanod]

Does the Bink compression affect audio as well, or is that something that could have been compressed separately along with the rest of the audio in the game?

It couldn't be worse than the voice audio compression on FFXII?

I wish they'd put out the Zodiark edition on a Blu-Ray without voice compression.

 

[h3ro]

Yes I know for one disc games it still need the disc - I just am surprised that multi disc games still need disc swaps when even all are installed.

No big deal - when I had to disc flip ME2 it just surprised me is all.

What's to stop someone from splitting a multidisk game with someone, installing both and have two people being able to play the full game while only having one of the game's two or more discs.

 

[LiK]

Yes I know for one disc games it still need the disc - I just am surprised that multi disc games still need disc swaps when even all are installed.

No big deal - when I had to disc flip ME2 it just surprised me is all.

yea, it's DRM. oh well, not really a big deal. i probably change the discs more when i switch out other titles than with those RPGs with multi-discs.

 

[SonOfABeep]

I was on the fence about 360/PS3 on this game but it's looking like PS3. Shame, I wanted to get achievements. Maybe I'll get the 360 version later on the cheap for a second play through. Would be fun to compare.

 

[Zoe]

It couldn't be worse than the voice audio compression on FFXII?

Good god, I hope not :lol

My concern is inconsistent audio quality between pre-recorded and real-time events.

 

[LiK]

I was on the fence about 360/PS3 on this game but it's looking like PS3. Shame, I wanted to get achievements. Maybe I'll get the 360 version later on the cheap for a second play through. Would be fun to compare.

i plan on getting both as well. should be fun

 

[h3ro]

I was on the fence about 360/PS3 on this game but it's looking like PS3. Shame, I wanted to get achievements. Maybe I'll get the 360 version later on the cheap for a second play through. Would be fun to compare.

That's what I planned on doing all along. I usually have played through a FF a second time and figured by the time I'm going to want to play XIII over, I'll be able to snag a 360 copy for close to nothing.

Plus, I'll be able to get a double S-Rank.

 

[Giolon]

Well, that settled it. PS3 version pre-ordered.

 

[Choke on the Magic]

The guy who said it was 576p IS from DigitalFoundry.

Oh shit.

 

[Diablos]

That's FFXIII on 360? What the hell?!

Crazy amount of dithering... it reminds me of my ancient ATI Rage Pro 2x from 1998... wow. I was expecting the 360 version to be scaled back a bit, but not this much. Perhaps it's just a bad screenshot? I don't know.

The pic of Snow and his crew was also a real eye-opener. Huge difference.

 

[Shurs]

cuz duckroll is watching!

I think it's more that most PS3-only owners understand that small graphical deficiencies don't ruin an experience.

 

[Zophar]

Most of this is on the whim analyzations until more varied resolute comparisons are made.

I guess DigitalFoundry is only good enough 95% of the time :lol

 

[RavenFox]

I guess DigitalFoundry is only good enough 95% of the time :lol

Yeah it's funny they are being questioned now. The game started and was optimized for PS3. PS3 it is for me and if you only have a 360 then enjoy the game and stay away from this thread.