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Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

Zalasta said:
Not sure if this is posted: Famitsu has its own Q&A session posted. There is a translation up on ZAM's forum, can't vouch of the accuracy though so maybe someone here will want to take a crack at it.

・At this moment, 40-50% completion.

・The graphic quality will be tune up even more. You can see each tree very clearly even they are very far away.

・macro feature will be added.

・UI layout can be movable by players themselves.

・The smile Icon is emote function.

・Those icons below the screen are called action command.

・You can set abilities that you had on those action command.

・Once you select the command, it will show on one of the 2 gauge in the middle of your screen. Each gauge represent left and right hand.
For example, your left hand equipped with a shield, so those shield related command will be appeared on the left hand gauge.

・When the action gauge reached, the command that you set, will be cast.

・There will be a power gauge too, the more it gains, the higher your accuracy and skill power will be.

・TP gauge will effect what kind of skill you can cast too. So gaining TP will be also very important during battle.

・TP will be gained by getting hit, or hit the monster.

・The action command will be change depends on your weapon. If you put on rod or staff , it will be magic related action.

・Action command will only have 10 slots. You are able to customize those.

・The bag mark icon is item bag.

・Players are not be allow to use emote during battle.

・3 kind of camera style : 3 person view, should view, and first person view.

・Players are able to pull up their weapon even not in engage mode.

・Quest mob location will be show on your map.

・Those puks wont be appear before you finished the dodo.

・There will be a development version before beta test. The image will be like a focus group thing.

40-50% done? They still have a ways to go then...

Sonos · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
40-50% done? They still have a ways to go then...

did they learn nothing from Age of Conan?

RELEASE IT NOW!!!!

Otheradam · Aug 20, 2009

Seeing those gameplay videos do nothing for me... as a person that quit FF11 with a bad taste in my mouth, those videos have actively made me less interested in picking it up. It just looks exactly the same to me.

Vinci · Aug 20, 2009

Otheradam said:
Seeing those gameplay videos do nothing for me... as a person that quit FF11 with a bad taste in my mouth, those videos have actively made me less interested in picking it up. It just looks exactly the same to me.

That was actually my impression. Which isn't altogether bad, as I enjoyed XI here and there, but I was anticipating a bit more advancement in the system.

eggandI · Aug 20, 2009

Zalasta said:
Not sure if this is posted: Famitsu has its own Q&A session posted. There is a translation up on ZAM's forum, can't vouch of the accuracy though so maybe someone here will want to take a crack at it.

Apparently not everything was translated so it would be awesome if someone here could do so

Kintaro said:
40-50% done? They still have a ways to go then...

They did say it was an alpha.

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

Vinci said:
That was actually my impression. Which isn't altogether bad, as I enjoyed XI here and there, but I was anticipating a bit more advancement in the system.

Well, there are tweaks to the system of course. However, I had hoped for the same. Then again, it's almost the exact same team so I knew they wouldn't deviate too much from FFXI's base. We'll see I guess.

CrankyJay · Aug 20, 2009

Vinci said:
That was actually my impression. Which isn't altogether bad, as I enjoyed XI here and there, but I was anticipating a bit more advancement in the system.

Yeah, movable UI, different camera views, and beefed up graphics is kinda what we were clamoring for in an update to FFXI.

I'd like to know more about their plans for auction houses, the economy, how they plan on fighting RMT, how they plan on handling HNMs and gear drops, and if they will have built in voice chat. What about monthly fees?

The reason I quit FFXI was the immense time committment. Was in the middle of camping a king when I just flipped out and said I couldn't take it any longer. Wasting hours of my lift to get a piece of gear that may or may not drop, and then hope that I win the lot? Fuck that.

Jinko · Aug 20, 2009

I like the idea that main hand and off hand weapons have different skills.

Seems there is a lot of depth to the class system also.

The reason I quit FFXI was the immense time committment. Was in the middle of camping a king when I just flipped out and said I couldn't take it any longer. Wasting hours of my lift to get a piece of gear that may or may not drop, and then hope that I win the lot? Fuck that.

This is every MMO out there more of less, don't expect that to change significantly.

Classic_Gs · Aug 20, 2009

Sonos said:
did they learn nothing from Age of Conan?

RELEASE IT NOW!!!!

:lol

Vinci · Aug 20, 2009

CrankyJay said:
Yeah, movable UI, different camera views, and beefed up graphics is kinda what we were clamoring for in an update to FFXI.

And if they intend to only sell this game to people who played XI, that would be fine - but it feels antiquated at this point and a bit lazy not to evolve the controls a touch more beyond what are mostly cosmetic changes.

J-Rod · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
The more jobs/weapons they introduce, the higher tha chance of a OP class there will be. <shrugs> It shouldn't matter in a strictly pve mmo really but people get attached to their jobs and on it goes. Seriously though, SE really skewed shit badly later in FFXI's life.

I think it is a lot more than job attachment. Having an loljob makes a significant difference in being invited to end game events, in who got priority on the item drops, and in everything down to the smallest things like a simple xp party.

You could desert years worth of work to switch jobs, but takes a lot of investment to even get it acceptable and may not even be a fun job to you.

Classic_Gs · Aug 20, 2009

Jinko said:
I like the idea that main hand and off hand weapons have different skills.

Seems there is a lot of depth to the class system also.

I agree it sounds very interesting and since there are 10 action slots I think its safe to assume 5 for each hand, however I wonder how the action slots will work with a two handed weapon (ie) staff (for magic)?

Jinko · Aug 20, 2009

Thinking more about the main hand and off hand stuff, does that mean dual wield will beable to solo skillchain

.. ie knife and sword combo.

Perhaps a combination of mace and shield = paladin ?

Classic_Gs · Aug 20, 2009

Jinko said:
Thinking more about the main hand and off hand stuff, does that mean dual wield will beable to solo skillchain .. ie knife and sword combo.

Perhaps a combination of mace and shield = paladin ?

I think its great that a shield could have actual skills that anyone could use (ie Shield bash) instead of just PLD in FFXI. Would you have enough TP to be able to solo skill chain even with two different weapons equipped is the question though.

SolidusDave · Aug 20, 2009

Seiken said:

mhhh seamless world...
*one mile away*
"The Lightning hits Solidavius for 9999 points of damage."
D:

Yoshichan · Aug 20, 2009

Sonos said:
did they learn nothing from Age of Conan?

RELEASE IT NOW!!!!

Holy crap :lol :lol :lol

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

J-Rod said:
I think it is a lot more than job attachment. Having an loljob makes a significant difference in being invited to end game events, in who got priority on the item drops, and in everything down to the smallest things like a simple xp party.

You could desert years worth of work to switch jobs, but takes a lot of investment to even get it acceptable and may not even be a fun job to you.

Yeah, there's all that too. Especially if you got caught up in the HNMLS bullshit. <shrugs> anyways, who knows. Just happy to see Monk there. Hopefully they made adjustments to the job and animations for it.

Zalasta · Aug 20, 2009

Maybe because Famitsu got special privileges, but the Japanese Q&A is vastly different from the others, definitely more organized and informative. No one else seemed to bother to ask more about what the playable demo entailed, especially the different parts of the new UI. The newer translation in ZAM's forum is a very good read, and I'm a lot more excited about the new battle system now.

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

Zalasta said:
Maybe because Famitsu got special privileges, but the Japanese Q&A is vastly different from the others, definitely more organized and informative. No one else seemed to bother to ask more about what the playable demo entailed, especially the different parts of the new UI. The newer translation in ZAM's forum is a very good read, and I'm a lot more excited about the new battle system now.

That's because barely anyone in the US press gives a shit about FF Online in either of its forms and are merely paying lip service.

Classic_Gs · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
That's because barely anyone in the US press gives a shit about FF Online in either of its forms and are merely paying lip service.

Yeah, pretty much unfortunately.

Epic Fail Guy · Aug 20, 2009

Zalasta said:
Maybe because Famitsu got special privileges, but the Japanese Q&A is vastly different from the others, definitely more organized and informative. No one else seemed to bother to ask more about what the playable demo entailed, especially the different parts of the new UI. The newer translation in ZAM's forum is a very good read, and I'm a lot more excited about the new battle system now.

Could you post this here. My work blocks ZAM

Ravidrath · Aug 20, 2009

Those Japanese "40-50% complete" numbers are always crap, so I wouldn't give them much heed.

Those usually mean that 40-50% of the content is "final," but the remaining 50-60% could be anywhere from not made at all to almost final.

Zalasta · Aug 20, 2009

Credit to user Godsleftsock for this:

It's not complete yet, but here's a translation of about half the interview.

多忙を極める田中氏を会場でキャッチ！
We catch up to the always busy Tanaka!

gamescom会場で、全世界からの取材に追われて多忙を極める『ファイナルファンタジーXIV』(以下、『FFXIV
&#12303プロデューサーの田中弘道氏と『FFXIV』グローバルオンラインプロデューサーのSage
Sundi氏に、そのスケジュールの合間を縫ってインタビューを敢行！　ここでは田中弘道氏へのインタビューを
お届けする。のちほどSage Sundi氏へのインタビューもお届けするので、そちらもお楽しみに！
On the Gamescon floor, we decided to schedule in an interview with the Producer of Final Fantasy XIV (which will be called FFXIV from here on) Tanaka Hiromichi and FFXIVs global onkine producer Sage Sundi. Well report the interview with Tanaka Hiromichi. Since well report on the interview with Sage Sundi at a later time, please look forward to that as well!

まずは、今回のgamescomで試遊が可能となっているバトル部分の解説を田中氏みずからにお願いした。
First, we ask Tanaka to personally explain the portion of the battle that is playable at this years Gamescon.

田中　では、プーク被害続出というギルドリーヴを実際にプレイしてみます。
Tanaka: Well, Im currently playing a guildleve called Defeat the large cluster of Puks
(TN: That is a poor translation of the guildleve name, sorry lol)

ギルドリーヴとは？
What are guildleves?

エオルゼアにある冒険者ギルドでは、訪れた冒険者に対して、仕事の委任パスギルドリーヴを発行してい
る。この仕事の依頼を達成すれば、報酬などをもらえる仕組みだ。これは、オフラインのRPGでもよく見られる
、クエストと呼ばれるシステムと同様のもの。大きな違いは、プレイヤーどうしで協力したり手伝ったりす
ることができるところだ。ひとりでも大人数でも楽しめる、MMORPGの醍醐味がそこに詰まっている。
Through the adventurer guild in Eorzoa, guildleves are passes that are issued to visiting adventurers for work. If you achieve the requested job, you can receive various rewards. This is similar to quests that you often see in offline RPGs. The big difference is that you are able to cooperate with and help out fellow players. Being able to play alone or with a large group, the epitome of MMORPGs is packed in.

田中　リーヴのタイトルどおりプークを倒せばいいんですが、最初はプークはいません。ドードーを倒してい
くとプークが現れる仕掛けですね。
Tanaka: Just as the title of the leave suggests, you should defeat the puks, but first there are no puks present. You defeat Dodos and trick the puks into appearing.

――謎解きの要素があるものも用意されていると。しかし、とても広大なフィールドですが、討伐対象のモン
スターは自分で捜すのでしょうか？
Even elements such as solving riddles have been prepared. However, as it is a very large field, will you search for the target monster yourself?

田中　ギルドリーヴ中はマップ内に敵の位置などが表示されるので、それをもとに捜していくことになります
。ですが、今回はα版なので表示されていませんね。
Tanaka: Because the positions of the enemies are displayed on the map during a guildleve, it becomes a matter of searching those areas. However, as this time it is an alpha version, they are not displayed.

――月並みですが、やはりグラフィックがすごいですね。
Its said a lot, but the graphics are impressive.

田中　まだ開発中なので、現状はまだまだ荒いところがあります。今回のバージョンでは、遠景がかなり簡略
化されてしまっていますが、実際には非常に遠くの木1本1本まで表示されるようになります。
Tanaka: Because it is still in development, the current version still has rough spots. In this version, the background is rather simply displayed, but in the final version, each tree will be displayed one by one to an extremely far distance.

(ここでドードーと戦闘を開始&#12290
(Here he begins to engage the Dodo.)

田中　『FFXI』では攻撃のコマンドを選択すると自動的に攻撃をくり出すオートアタックシステムを採用
していましたが、『FFXIV』では毎回コマンドを選ぶ必要があります。コマンドの組み合わせによって発動する
技が変わったりもするので、どう組み合わせていくかが戦略的には重要になりますね。
Tanaka: In FFXI, when you selected the Attack command, we used an auto attack system that would attack automatically. However, in FFXIV it is essential that you select the command every time.

――画面下部に並んでいるアイコンがコマンドですか？
Are the icons lined up on the bottom of the screen commands?

田中　そうですね。アクションコマンドと呼んでいます。このインターフェースもまだ暫定ではありますけど。また『FFXI』との比較になりますが、今回特徴的なのは、武器の抜き差しがどこでも行えます。『FFXI』
のように戦闘だから剣を抜くわけではなく、敵がいないところでも剣を抜いて、そのまま走ったりもできます。
Tanaka: Thats right. They are called Action Commands. This interface, too, is still tentative. This is again a comparison to FFXI, but a characteristic of this game is that you are able to draw out your weapon at any time. Its not like drawing out your weapon for a fight in FFXI, but you can draw your weapon even in places with no enemies and run around.

(つぎつぎとドードーを倒していく田中さん&#12290
(Tanaka defeats the Dodos one after the other.)

――コマンドについて、もう少し詳しく教えてください。
Please tell us a bit more about the commands.

田中　下にズラッと並んでいるのが、現在セットしているアビリティです。この中から使いたいアビリティを
選択すると、その上のゲージにコマンドとして登録されます。このゲージはふたつあって、右手と左手に対応し
ています。たとえば、盾は左手に持つものなので、盾に関するコマンドは左手側のゲージに登録されます。
Tanaka: The ones lined up in a row below are the abilities in the current set. From these you choose the ability, which is registered in the gauge above as a command. In this game there are two gauges. You interact with the right and left hand. For example, because I hold my shield in my left hand, the commands related to the shield are registered on the left hand side.
(TN: Im not sure if this means you can the shield in your right hand too. Just that he is currently holding it in his left hand.)

――コマンドはすぐ発動するのですか？
Will you activate a command soon?

田中　
アクションゲージというゲージが溜まると発動できます。さらに、パワーゲージというのがあって、
パワーを溜めることで技の威力や命中に影響します。また、画面右下にTPというゲージがあり、このTPの溜
まり具合によっても発動できる技が変わるんですよ。ですから、戦闘中はTPを溜める行動をする必要がありま
す。
Tanaka: When the gauge called the Action Gauge fills up, you can activate it. Moreover, there is also one called the Power Gauge, and by accumulating power, you influence your hits and the power of your skills. Again, on the bottom right of the screen is a gauge called TP, and depending on the condition (TN: amount?) of this accumulated TP, the skills you can activate change. That is why it is important to act toward accumulating TP during battles.

――敵に攻撃をしたり、逆に攻撃を受けたりすると溜まっていくと。
Youre saying that you accumulate TP from attacking enemies and conversely taking attacks from enemies?

田中　そうですね。
Tanaka: Thats right.

(ここで剣の特殊技レッドロータスをくり出す田中さん&#12290
(Here Tanaka lets out his blades special attack Red Lotus Blade.)

――お！　見覚えのある技が（笑）。
Oh! Thats a skill that I recognize (lawl).

田中　レタスです（笑）。
Tanaka: Lettuce (lol).

レッドロータスとは

『FFXI』に登場した特殊技のひとつ。ユーザーのあいだではレタスの愛称で親しまれた。
Red Lotus Blade was one of the special skills introduced in FFXI. It was deemed the pet name Lettuce among the users.

Jinko · Aug 20, 2009

Ravidrath said:
Those Japanese "40-50% complete" numbers are always crap, so I wouldn't give them much heed.

Those usually mean that 40-50% of the content is "final," but the remaining 50-60% could be anywhere from not made at all to almost final.

I would guess 80% = Beta, so hopefully 3-4 months.

Epic Fail Guy · Aug 20, 2009

Zalasta said:
Credit to user Godsleftsock for this:

Thanks a ton for posting that. Looks like they have really learned a lot from FFXI, those are major improvements.

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

Tanaka: In FFXI, when you selected the Attack command, we used an auto attack system that would attack automatically. However, in FFXIV it is essential that you select the command every time.

This...doesn't sound right.

Zalasta · Aug 20, 2009

A bit more on the demo gameplay, had to split the message up because it was too long.

――魔法なども、このアクションコマンドから選んでいくのでしょうか？
Do you also choose magic etc. from these action commands?

田中　そうです。現在の武器（スキル）によってアクションコマンドの中身が変わります。たとえば、いま剣
を持っていますけど、杖に持ち替えれば魔法使い系のコマンド類に変わります。
Tanaka: Thats right. Depending on the present weapon (skills) the contents of the action commands change. For example, now Im holding a sword, but if I were to change to a staff it would change to a variety of commands for a mage.

――習得したスキルも、そのアクションコマンドに並んでいくわけですね。
So that means that acquired skills will also line up in the action commands?

田中　そうなります。武器のスキルが上がらないと習得できない技もありますから。
Tanaka: That would be the case. There are skills that you cant acquire if your weapons skill doesnt go up.

――このアクションコマンドは、最終的にはものすごい数が並んだりするのですか？
In the end will you have an amazing amount of skills lined up in the Action Command?

田中　アクションコマンドにセットできるアビリティは10個までです。どの10個をセットするかを自分でカス
タマイズするわけです。
Tanaka: You have up to 10 abilities that you can set in the Action Command. It means you will customize which 10 skills you will use in the set.

――それがプレイスタイルに合わせて、ということなのですね。
Its something like matching the action command to your own play style, right?

田中　そうですね。
Tanaka: Thats right.

――このバトルシステムを採用した理由とは？
Whats the reason for adopting this battle system?

田中　まずはやはり、オートバトルよりももう少し積極的にバトルを組み立てたい、より戦略性を増したいと
いうのが、コマンドを自分で選ぶようにした理由ですね。『FFXI』はジョブによる役割分担を明確にするために
パーティープレイをある程度前提にしていたところがありますけど、『FFXIV』はひとりでも遊べますし、ふた
り、3人パーティーといった少人数でも楽しめます。そのときの状況に応じて、どう役割分担をしていくのか選
べるようにしてあるんです。
Tanaka: First of all, we wanted to construct a more proactive battle than an auto-battle. More than that, the reasoning was that we wanted to increase the strategy by having you choose your own commands. In order to clearly give defined roles based on ones job, FFXI has a premise of having a certain amount of party play. With FFXIV you can play alone, or have fun in small groups of two or three. Depending on those situations, you can choose how to share roles.

――アクションコマンドの中にあるスマイルマークは何でしょう？
What is the Smile Mark in the Action Command?

田中　これはエモート（感情表現コマンド）ですね。『FFXI』ではテキストコマンドでエモートを行っていま
したが、『FFXIV』は、グラフィカルなユーザーインターフェースでも選択できます。その隣にある袋のマーク
はアイテム選択ですね。
Tanaka: That is an emote. In FFXI you performed emotes via text commands, but with FFXIV you can choose it with a graphical user interface. The bag mark next to it selects your items.

――プレゼンテーションで拝見しましたが、今回はエモートの表現力がすごいですよね。戦闘中にもできるん
でしょうか？
We saw it in the presentation, but the expressions of the emotes this time are really great. Can you do them during battle as well?

田中　いまのところ戦闘中はできないですね（笑）。
Tanaka: At the moment you cant use them in battle (laugh).

――インターフェースまわりの質問になりますが、次世代機で解像度が上がったことにより、チャットやステ
ータスなどがほどよく分散していて情報が見やすいですね。たとえば、パーティーメンバーのステータスはどこ
に表示されるのでしょうか？
This is a question regarding the interface. Since the resolution of future generation machines has been raised, its easy to properly distribute chat and statuses etc. and see information. For example, where will party members statuses etc. be displayed?

田中　初期状態では画面右側中央あたりに出ますが、じつは画面のレイアウトは、マウスでウインドーを移動
するような感じでユーザー側が自由に変えられるんです。チャットウインドーの行数やサイズも自由に変えられ
ます。お好きなレイアウトで遊んでいただければと。
Tanaka: In the initial condition, it is on the right side of the screen, but in actuality the layout of the screen can be changed freely on the players end, such as moving the window with the mouse.

――プレイヤーの視点はどうなりますか？
What is the players point of view?

田中　いまはα版の段階なので今後どうなるかはわからないのですが、いわゆるふつうの三人称の視点と、肩
越しからのショルダーカメラ、そして主観の3種類を切り替えられるようにしています。
Tanaka: Since this is only an alpha version, I dont know how it will turn out after this, but it is a shoulder camera from over the shoulder; a so-called normal third person view. Youll be able to change it to 3 different views.

これでギルドリーヴ終了。ワープポイントを利用してギルドリーヴ開始地点のエーテライトへワープする田中
さん。
This ends the guildleve. Using a warp point, Tanaka warps to the aetheryte of the guildleves starting point.

――『FFXIV』での移動はエーテライトが主軸になるのでしょうか？
Will the main method of transportation in FFXIV be aetheryte?

田中　ワープが使えるのはギルドリーヴをクリアーしたときぐらいで、それぞれ冒険の目的地には実際に移動
してもらう必要があります。便利な移動方法として映ってしまったかもしれませんが、そうひんぱんに使えるも
のではないです。
Tanaka: Being able to use the warp is for when you clear the guildleve. Its necessary to actually travel to the various destinations on your adventure. Youll probably reflect on it as a convenient method of transportation, but its not something you can use at anytime. (TN: Not too sure about that last sentence. But basically you only warp after the guildleve, you need to physically travel to the spot it seems.)

――ゲームシステムの説明ありがとうございました。では、今回の出展の経緯と今後の展開について伺います
。6月のE3でセンセーショナルな発表をしたわけですが、私たちにとってはそこから3ヵ月も経たないうちに、「
もうプレイアブル？」とかなり驚きました。
Thank you so much for explaining the game system. Now, we will ask about the condition of the current display and the development from here on out. It was a sensational announcement at Junes E3, but we were rather surprised that less than 3 months later that its already playable.

田中　僕ら開発側からすると、かれこれ3、4年作っているので、「やっと」というところではあるんですけど
（笑）。今回の『FFXIV』については、なるべく早い段階からある程度公開して、ユーザーさんの意見を吸い上
げていこう、というコンセプトがあるんです。かなり未完成の部分も多いんですけど、そういう段階からあえて
さらけ出す感じですね。ですので、少し早めにβテストもスタートするかもしれないです。
Tanaka: Were coming from the development side, but since weve been working one thing or another for 3 or 4 years, it feels more like finally to us (laugh). Concerning this version of FFXIV, we had the concept of presenting a certain amount to the public and taking in their opinions from as early of a build as possible.

eggandI · Aug 20, 2009

Full write up by Elmer so this one is quality.
http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=19336

Snoodaard · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
This...doesn't sound right.

Yeah I don't like the sound of that.

Cedille · Aug 20, 2009

Fakto said:
Is there any information about the server regions ? Will it be like FFXI ? [Japan/Europe/America in the same servers]
/Cross fingers Loved the auto-translation tool ;D

Sage says they won't split severs by language (or region)... just because they didn't so in XI.

Hell.

Frankly, this was by far the worst thing that happened on FFXI and will end up the biggest reason why I'll avoid XIV. Seriously, I can't think of much merit in it, except that SQEX can reduce the costs. Hell.

Vinci · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
This...doesn't sound right.

That works for a game like CoH, but for a XI sequel? Nah. Then again, the game might very well be very different from XI gameplay-wise if they're adopting a CoH-like system.

MvmntInGrn · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
This...doesn't sound right.

So like .hack ps2 games?

Unless you can manually guard and evade its kind of useless in an online setting isn't it?

Teknoman · Aug 20, 2009

Man monster design is awesome. Also characters with varied skin tones = Skin color edit?

It does seem you can manually guard in a way, since you have controls for both left and right hand...unless that was a mistranslation. So maybe you can attack as fast as you want?

Vinci · Aug 20, 2009

Teknoman said:
Man monster design is awesome. Also characters with varied skin tones = Skin color edit?

It does seem you can manually guard in a way, since you have controls for both left and right hand...unless that was a mistranslation. So maybe you can attack as fast as you want?

The gauges say you can't. Just read that part actually.

Teknoman · Aug 20, 2009

Cedille said:
Sage says they won't split severs by language (or region)... just because they didn't so in XI.

Hell.

Frankly, this was by far the worst thing that happened on FFXI and will end up the biggest reason why I'll avoid XIV. Seriously, I can't think of much merit in it, except that SQEX can reduce the costs. Hell.

Whats wrong with that? They dont have to cater to 56kers this time around, and its not like you'll have to super camp things this time around.

EDIT: VA for story missions will be great.

Cedille · Aug 20, 2009

Teknoman said:
Whats wrong with that?

Almost everything is wrong. I felt far more comfortable in Vana'diel until Nov, 2003.

Ravidrath · Aug 20, 2009

Jinko said:
I would guess 80% = Beta, so hopefully 3-4 months.

Nah. It doesn't really relate to the U.S. milestone definitions at all, either... I think it's pretty much just BS.

When your game is "beta," it means that the only things left are bugs. Pulling similarly arbitrary bullshit out of my ass for comparison, I'd say bugs are only like 2-5% of the total development process.

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

Teknoman said:
Whats wrong with that? They dont have to cater to 56kers this time around, and its not like you'll have to super camp things this time around.

You don't honestly believe this do you? Of course you will. =P

I'm bummed they won't seperate servers either but oh well. The problem came from that the times they reset servers always benefitted one side of the world over the other and they never switched or staggered them. Plus, I'd rather just not have to fuck around when auto translate. >.>

Kosma · Aug 20, 2009

New thread yay! New screens double yay! They look so nice and crisp.

I don't like the fact that they are saying there will only be 3 camera views though.

SolidusDave · Aug 20, 2009

Cedille said:
Sage says they won't split severs by language (or region)... just because they didn't so in XI.

Hell.

Frankly, this was by far the worst thing that happened on FFXI and will end up the biggest reason why I'll avoid XIV. Seriously, I can't think of much merit in it, except that SQEX can reduce the costs. Hell.

besides the language barrier if you don't know English or Japanese (though FFXI has Auto-translators for english, japanese, german and french), what is there to hate?

I loved the all-platforms-all-regions-server (also with bigger populations then the usual mmorpg) of FFXI, no matter when you logged in, there is always at least a basic amount of people on your server.
I mostly had german social linkshells, but enjoyed that I could play with people around the world. Much more interesting IMO.

When FF14 hits, gaf can populate the same server that way, too.

Kintaro · Aug 20, 2009

So, no more auto attack...instead, you have to manually pick attack each time, but have to wait on the gauge the attack to actually carry out... WTF is the difference exactly again? It's like carrying over ATB to the game or something.

Teknoman · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
You don't honestly believe this do you? Of course you will. =P

I'm bummed they won't seperate servers either but oh well. The problem came from that the times they reset servers always benefitted one side of the world over the other and they never switched or staggered them. Plus, I'd rather just not have to fuck around when auto translate. >.>

Well im hoping you wont have to...c'mon S-E dont let me down!

Cedille said:
Almost everything is wrong. I felt far more comfortable in Vana'diel until Nov, 2003.

Can you elaborate? Its not like you HAVE to communicate with people who have a different language. The only complaint I can think of is that maintenance might be geared towards JP times of day than everywhere else. Other than that, I dont see the problem.

Kintaro said:
So, no more auto attack...instead, you have to manually pick attack each time, but have to wait on the gauge the attack to actually carry out... WTF is the difference exactly again? It's like carrying over ATB to the game or something.

Maybe that is it and monsters wont take that long to kill? Sucks when you get an interview translated, yet the information isnt that...informative :lol

Vinci · Aug 20, 2009

Kintaro said:
So, no more auto attack...instead, you have to manually pick attack each time, but have to wait on the gauge the attack to actually carry out... WTF is the difference exactly again? It's like carrying over ATB to the game or something.

Yeah, this made me do a double-take actually. I was like, "Hey, that's like CoH!" and then I read the gauge part and went, "Um... ?"

I have no idea what they're doing.

Teknoman · Aug 20, 2009

I guess on the bright side (dunno if there is a dark side to this) haste will effect more than just casting time and attack delay?

Cedille · Aug 20, 2009

Teknoman said:
Can you elaborate? Its not like you HAVE to communicate with people who have a different language.

It was simply tiring to live with people with different ethic, common sense, manner, convention or whatnot. I had a sizable number of friends in both JP and NA (along with EU, TW or HK), and really didn't have any racial animosity, but still.

Considering how much JP players write 'JP onry', I don't think I'm in a minority (I heard even NA players have started to say 'NA only' lately.

CrankyJay · Aug 20, 2009

Jinko said:
I like the idea that main hand and off hand weapons have different skills.

Seems there is a lot of depth to the class system also.

This is every MMO out there more of less, don't expect that to change significantly.

True. All the same I may check it out and concentrate more on crafting up front.

Yoshichan · Aug 20, 2009

Wtf... atb...

Kyzer · Aug 20, 2009

:O

That weather looks so nice...

DrDogg · Aug 20, 2009

I like the cross-region servers, so I'm glad they're still in (even though this was confirmed at E3 so it's nothing new).

The new combat system sounds... interesting. I'm worried about how Tanaka said you'd have to skill up your weapon to unlock specific skills. Does that mean I have to melee as a WHM to unlock Cure 4 or will there be a "spell book" weapon that levels up as I cast spells? Perhaps the staff levels up as I cast spells? I'd be okay with that too. I just don't want to be forced to melee as a mage class.

No SMN job at all right now. Not really digging that, but I get the impression it'll be added in a future expansion so I'm cool if that's the case.

They mentioned the initial game world would be slightly smaller than FFXI's original game world. What were the starting zones in FFXI? I know Bastok, Windy, Sandy, Jeuno and surrounding areas, but what about zones like the Sanctuary of Zi'tah, Beaudeax, etc?

Teknoman · Aug 20, 2009

Cedille said:
It was simply tiring to live with people with different ethic, common sense, manner, convention or whatnot. I had a sizable number of friends in both JP and NA (along with EU, TW or HK), and really didn't have any racial animosity, but still.

Considering how much JP players write 'JP onry', I don't think I'm in a minority (I heard even NA players have started to say 'NA only' lately.

Hmm maybe it was just the server I was on (Midgardsormr), but I never really experienced those problems. I saw maybe one JP bazaar with a nasty comment, but thats about it. Havent seen anything like this at all on Fairy since I restarted back in late April.

EDIT: Im sure staves will lvl up as you cast whatever spells they let you use.

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