SoraanTribal
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So frustrating. Honestly, I would have just preordered elsewhere, but they had the most preorder bonuses compared to everywhere else. :/
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Final Fantasy XV - Review Thread [Second wave of reviews coming in]
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So frustrating. Honestly, I would have just preordered elsewhere, but they had the most preorder bonuses compared to everywhere else. :/
Got it on steam.
Looks like Katamari. This takes priority over FFXV since it got a better metacritic.
If a game scores an 8.6 average, that means that you have a gamut of people who thought the game was an 7, 8, 9 or 10. It's up to you to find out where you land on that spectrum.
People who are mad at the score / happy to see it that "low" / dissuaded from playing the game, need to get a clue.
People who are mad at the score / happy to see it that "low" / dissuaded from playing the game, need to get a clue.
Great puzzle game about rolling some sausage roll
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Honestly sells the difficulty short.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
So from what I'm reading:
Cons-
*Crap story (Please don't be XII or XIII levels of bad)
*Poor camera
*Poor, automated combat
*Poor magic system
*Limited summon system
*Poor car controls
*Fetch questy side quests
*uninteresting open wold
Pros-
*Looks gorgeous
*Awesome dungeons
*Likable cast with good chemistry
*Sword warping is as awesome as it looks
Yeah, I dunno. I'll wait for the PC version. Hopefully patches and DLCs will address the issues people have been critical of.
Haha holy shit. Took me a sec to realize it's the same person.
I hope so. XIII's reviews were embarrassing and frankly I've never given reviews the same weight since. For a while, it was strictly user impressions for me.
Cons-
*Crap story (Please don't be XII or XIII levels of bad)
*Poor camera
*Poor, automated combat
*Poor magic system
*Limited summon system
*Poor car controls
*Fetch questy side quests
*uninteresting open wold
Pros-
*Looks gorgeous
*Awesome dungeons
*Likable cast with good chemistry
*Sword warping is as awesome as it looks
Yeah, I dunno. I'll wait for the PC version. Hopefully patches and DLCs will address the issues people have been critical of.
Haha holy shit. Took me a sec to realize it's the same person.
I hope so. XIII's reviews were embarrassing and frankly I've never given reviews the same weight since. For a while, it was strictly user impressions for me.
Yea, it's been challenging for sure. Haven't watched any of the "BIG" tv shows everyone's talking about, and my Japanese game collection is pretty much relegated to Nintendo games, but I'm confident in my decisions, and just hope movies/games/shows will shift back towards more respectful territory someday..
On a positive note, I've been saving a ton of money and enjoying the fewer games I have more thoroughly.
Way to go! I didn't download Bayo either. Much respect for you too man! I guarantee that women will really respect and appreciate that in you. Cheers!
Glass Shark
Banned
this is a good post 👍🏻
brandonh83
Banned
Chrono Trigger, the greatest JRPG of all time and my favorite game of all time is about that long. And I've seen playtimes from people on this forum that were over 30 hours, closer to 35 hours. In addition, like others are saying, that's the main narrative. It isn't advised to just blow through it like that.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Based on impressions I was expecting a lesser version of what happened with Star Ocean 5 this year, with early impressions saying the game has issues but was still pretty good, and then reviews hmering it way harder later on. I was expecting something like 78 or 77, and it does seem like the that most outlets have for the story would warrant lower scores than they eventually hand out, I guess I should be glad that it passed the 80 bar.
Despite wanting the issues with the narrative to be taken more seriously than most outlets seem to be, as I don't want any RPG makers to get complacent with that very important component, I'm glad the gameplay and world design are solid enough in most people's opinions to make the game good regardless. It seems like this could mean the next FF (XVI or VIIR) could take cues from the gameplay design, execute the story more competently, and already make a great experience.
I'm hoping the game gets enough sales to be successful, while letting Square and other RPG developers (specifically Japanese ones) know that it could've done better with a better story. Then they have something to strive for. It has been said that FFXV might be seen as a symbol, or maybe a canary in the mineshaft, that the Japanese games industry can watch and see if Japanese games still have a future in high budget productions.
So I'm hoping the game does well enough that they have renewed confidence, while also knowing that if they prioritize good stories and localizations that they can do even better. For example, maybe FFXV doing well could convince Namco Bandai to give the next PS4 'Tales of' game a higher budget than they would've otherwise, and maybe they'd let Sakuraba off the chains and he could do 'Tales of' music that matches the quality of most of his other work, like Dark Souls.
Despite wanting the issues with the narrative to be taken more seriously than most outlets seem to be, as I don't want any RPG makers to get complacent with that very important component, I'm glad the gameplay and world design are solid enough in most people's opinions to make the game good regardless. It seems like this could mean the next FF (XVI or VIIR) could take cues from the gameplay design, execute the story more competently, and already make a great experience.
I'm hoping the game gets enough sales to be successful, while letting Square and other RPG developers (specifically Japanese ones) know that it could've done better with a better story. Then they have something to strive for. It has been said that FFXV might be seen as a symbol, or maybe a canary in the mineshaft, that the Japanese games industry can watch and see if Japanese games still have a future in high budget productions.
So I'm hoping the game does well enough that they have renewed confidence, while also knowing that if they prioritize good stories and localizations that they can do even better. For example, maybe FFXV doing well could convince Namco Bandai to give the next PS4 'Tales of' game a higher budget than they would've otherwise, and maybe they'd let Sakuraba off the chains and he could do 'Tales of' music that matches the quality of most of his other work, like Dark Souls.
Looked it up. Sounds awesome. Positive reviews on steam and here sold me on it. haha. This should be fun.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I'm not sure if you're kidding about the Metacritic part
But I'd honestly be quite pleased to see more people spending time with SSR. It's a gem. But it is super-hard. Best of luck!
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Weak story means no purchase for me. Too important to me in a huge game like this.
That doesn't seem accurate... Looks like most people are enjoying the combat to me, aside from the people who think it's supposed to be DMC.
DeadOnions
Member
Good scores. I'll wait for it to drop in price as I have a backlog going but glad it has ended up delivering.
I'm not sure if you're kidding about the Metacritic part
But I'd honestly be quite pleased to see more people spending time with SSR. It's a gem. But it is super-hard. Best of luck!
Metacritic comment is a joke. But i still got the game and will be playing it here and there. Looks great. I like when you find underrated games like this.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah, people don't give a damn about Poe's law anymore these days.
OnionPowder
Member
If you actually picked it up then I'm glad I came in this thread.
Any complaints you have with the games design or pricing should go in the "Telling the developer how to do their job" subforum of the official steam discussion pages.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/353540/discussions/8/
So I'm hyped for this but can we dispel the notion that Final Fantasy needs to be made great again?
FFXIV: ARR made it great again 3 years ago and Heavensward made it even greater 1 year ago.
And hell if FFXV isn't that great then we got:
Early next year.
You guys should understand that a lot of people don't have the time or the money to play a subscription based MMO. A lot of people simply don't like them. I get where you're coming from, but you guys should accept that for a lot of people Final Fantasy means single player jrpg.
Yep. Picked it up and we'll be playing it later today. Should be interesting.
Hopefully you're into puzzlers cuz this game will drag you through the mud
What are you reading that says the combat is bad? Jason said the combat is literally the best thing in the game.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Yup. I'm enjoying XIV but this post is right on the money.
BRocknRolla
Member
You're right, It's not a crazy concept; it's not even a novel one, it just doesn't make any sense. If you want to put your perceived notions of what is and not a fair review score into the mix, and therefore cut reviews that don't meet his standard, that's certainly your prerogative. It simply doesn't add anything valuable to the conversation.
If my feeling that way is, "thinking too much," then I guess we're at an impasse.
This is another one of those areas where opinions can vary so wildly. There are lot of people who would look at a 40 hour game as an insurmountable feat. There are others, as you can see in this very thread, who seem to view 20 hours as paltry. I don't know what the right balance is, but this game definitely seems to be gunning for a wider audience than previous iterations. All that said, I can understand why people might be surprised if the core story is "short" given how long the game has been in dev.
Do you have a link?
I think part of an increase could be a reduction in the number of licensed and low budget console games since the mid-2000's, which don't even exist to get bad reviews anymore. AAA blockbusters are still trending in a direction that gives us fewer 90+s every year, no?
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I know exactly why lol because it doesn't play to the narrative that many have been trying to push for months. I'll say it again, there's a fairly sizable contingent on people that we hoping this game would fail, for whatever reason. Now it still may bomb commercially, but it's not the critical disaster I know some people wanted it to be.
Oh for sure. If i was 15 years old still with way more free time, i'd probably be disappointed. But as a guy who loves side quests and doing everything, a 50 hour game total (pre-DLC) is right in my wheelhouse. Not sure I could handle 90 hours+ like FFXII or the 50 - 60 hour main story of Xenogears. =)
As for other RPG's that are that short for main story...Suikoden 1, Breath of Fire
Q and Valkyrie Profile come to mind.I must say much respects to you, it is good to see men think like this in this society.
brandonh83
Banned
I really like XIV and made it to Heavensward, but yeah. It's a super huge investment, very time consuming, and the combat gets incredibly complex further in. That's not really a bad thing, but I hit a point where I was going into raids and people were just bitching at me for not having my damage per second up to optimal levels. I struggled with it there for a while, tried to learn everything but there's just so many other games out there for me to play and things for me to do. It's like trying to learn a fighting game, you can enjoy it and get good if you pour hundreds of hours into one thing, but I don't have the time for that.
FFXIV is great though and I enjoyed all I played of it, but after spending a year playing on and off trying to get to Heavensward and people being assholes, I just kind of lost interest. I'll likely pick it back up down the line however.
CrimsonSquall
Member
I guessed 86. Your boys a hero
Eh, the great thing about those games is they don't need to be played like an MMO. You can beat it in the one free month and just pay for one month when the next expansion hits.
freeofgreed
Member
Was going to say this myself.
Mercador
Member
Neither is Gamekult, but I was only answering the guy that told me US reviewers put higher scores.
texhnolyze
Banned
This.
He's not wrong though. I'm a MAJOR solo, single-player JRPG player and I don't even like MMOs and abhor subscriptions.
... FFXIV is utterly fantastic and the best Final Fantasy I've played since IX.
It's worth the money (I see the subscription money clearly funneled back into the actual game, and the cost per month tends to net me enough content per patch that some games do with DLC), and I was even able to beat the main story of A Realm Reborn in my free month without any issue. You can very easily buy the whole game and beat it if you play smart in the 30 day free window and still come away very satisfied with a full story arc concluded and everything.
... But the game was so good, I just had to see more and experience more, so I kept coming back.
Pixel Samurai
Member
to anyone who's beaten the game - can you return to the world and do all the sidequests after completion?
Jawbreaker
Member
That's only because there was an overrepresentation of shovelware on the Wii. It's an entirely different story if you look at the high end.
dancegrenade
Member
Such a weird game to play with yourself right?
Yeah, it does add something to the conversation. The conversation you missed when you jumped in in the middle of it. The conversation where people were implying that anyone who dismissed that score was being a blind fanboy.
I wasn't telling you that you need to subscribe to this concept. I was explaining the concept to some people who obviously did not understand it.
It's not that big of a deal and never was. I always dismiss the highest and lowest score in anything I'm evaluating. And when you you have 25 scores within 15 of each other and 1 lone score 20 points away from that grouping, it's easy to dismiss that until there's a valid reason to give it weight.
This was never some point to bring up for some ridiculous debate, and I get three different people coming at me for it for 3 entirely different reasons with no regard to the context that it came from. It's obnoxious. You know EXACTLY what I was getting at. If you would like to disagree, knock yourself out. Since we're on the same page now, though, I'd like to not have to put you on ignore like the other two, because I'm not in the mood to get into ridiculous semantic debates over relatively simple points.
Maintenance
Member
Keep telling yourself that.
"Next time he'll have a bigger budget and a better platform"
FFXV happens.
"Next time he'll have more time"
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
What other game is the combat most like?